how about a hybird blader?

[Pred]

Blader killing ability has increased with the help of Lightning Chain.

Blader Defensive ability has also increased with the help of Lightning Chain.

Status effects can be very annoying, especially from my warlock

[Da_Realest]

Don't give up on a pure str blade's killing ability yet. If JM wants to give pure str bladers the ability to kill, they will. JM knows what they're doing.

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/7412/1241ps3.jpg

This skill last 120 seconds and allows pure str bladers to kill. Not that they couldn't before. Its just a bit easier.

can you explain what it does?

Based on a poor Google translation....

First book is level 20. The shield's defensive power is decreased by 17%. In return, your physical attack power is increased by 27.

I'm going to skip the books in between, but the last book, level 100, decreases your shield's defensive power by 83% but increases your physical attack power by 133. All books last 120 seconds.

[Pred]

Sounds like a mimic skill of Dagger Desperate.

Maybe call it, Sword Suicide?

[non ego man]

...the last book, level 100, decreases your shield's defensive power by 83% but increases your physical attack power by 133...[/color]

So, in effect, you become a glaiver? I wonder what the comparison in damage and defense is between a blade with that skill and a glaive at the same level.

[Pred]

Decreasing Shield Defense does not decrease Block Ratio.

You have to think about that also.

Increasing phy attack power is the same skill that Rogues have for their daggers which is they they are able to do as much damage as a sword user but with a crappier weapon.

Your right though, a good comparison in damage would be against glaiver, but for this game, I would never sacrifice my block.

[DietSunkist]

damn guys..make what you want and play the game

[NuclearSilo]

Don't give up on a pure str blade's killing ability yet. If JM wants to give pure str bladers the ability to kill, they will. JM knows what they're doing.

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/7412/1241ps3.jpg

This skill last 120 seconds and allows pure str bladers to kill. Not that they couldn't before. Its just a bit easier.

can you explain what it does?

Based on a poor Google translation....

First book is level 20. The shield's defensive power is decreased by 17%. In return, your physical attack power is increased by 27.

I'm going to skip the books in between, but the last book, level 100, decreases your shield's defensive power by 83% but increases your physical attack power by 133. All books last 120 seconds.

Oo
Another useless skill. With 100% bicheon mastery increase and with 250% skill multiplier, u deal 700 dmg more, vs 50k HP, right?

[FieryPlague]

700 dmg equates to 1.4k on crit?

[AnemuS]

lol Pred, stop defending and saying ur char is godlike, (thats what i understand after i read ur BS)

why should i even say to a dagger go INT if their weapons dont have mag damage?, u should first learn about the game by urself than talk about others,
and do u really think that all INT hybrids use only nukes in PVE? if i am right they are doing pretty more damage with blade and glaive skills as well, but its just magical attack , maybe their crits are lower but, lol overall damage dude, try to ks a sosun SWORDER, and tell me how is this ended, and who got the kill, while waiting for ur crit he will do every hit almost the same damage as ur crits, so gg, if u can test it, ill myself would like to see you prooving otherwise xD

[Nenhunter]

Critical attacks not important?

Damage almost the same? I Beg to differ.

Before you speak, you should learn something about defense, builds, and character variations.

Also learn about critical values and their importance to a STR- character.

Tell that to a dagger rouge to go Hybrid, he will laugh at you.

If you dont care, then go use a critical 1 NPC blade. See how much you hit.

u can't really compare hybrid euros with chinese hybrids. daggers only have phys atk, so of course its dumb to go hybrid on a dagger rogue.

[Krevidy]

Bladers suck
no dmg, no fun to play with.

fck u anime frkin tard n00b go get a GF.

Srry guys but anime is the biggest n00b of Venice server

[Pred]

lol Pred, stop defending and saying ur char is godlike, (thats what i understand after i read ur BS)

why should i even say to a dagger go INT if their weapons dont have mag damage?, u should first learn about the game by urself than talk about others,
and do u really think that all INT hybrids use only nukes in PVE? if i am right they are doing pretty more damage with blade and glaive skills as well, but its just magical attack , maybe their crits are lower but, lol overall damage dude, try to ks a sosun SWORDER, and tell me how is this ended, and who got the kill, while waiting for ur crit he will do every hit almost the same damage as ur crits, so gg, if u can test it, ill myself would like to see you prooving otherwise xD

My -BS- is just your perception. If you think it's BS, i'd love to see your HYBRID SPEAR at least 90 or 100 Cap.

Have fun choosing your masteries.

You will lose 1 force tree or your weapon.

Blader's will be going Bicheon/Light/Fire.

Hybrids are using 4 trees, need to go down to 3. Either dump your snow shield or your status immunities.

INT's are using 4 trees, need to go down to 3. INT-Spears will be non-existant

Prepare for your future. Didnt your mother ever tell you that?

I dont build characters for PvM. I build them for PvP.

Good luck, have fun:)

[Disconn3cted]

lol Pred, stop defending and saying ur char is godlike, (thats what i understand after i read ur BS)

why should i even say to a dagger go INT if their weapons dont have mag damage?, u should first learn about the game by urself than talk about others,
and do u really think that all INT hybrids use only nukes in PVE? if i am right they are doing pretty more damage with blade and glaive skills as well, but its just magical attack , maybe their crits are lower but, lol overall damage dude, try to ks a sosun SWORDER, and tell me how is this ended, and who got the kill, while waiting for ur crit he will do every hit almost the same damage as ur crits, so gg, if u can test it, ill myself would like to see you prooving otherwise xD

My -BS- is just your perception. If you think it's BS, i'd love to see your HYBRID SPEAR at least 90 or 100 Cap.

Have fun choosing your masteries.

You will lose 1 force tree or your weapon.

Blader's will be going Bicheon/Light/Fire.

Hybrids are using 4 trees, need to go down to 3. Either dump your snow shield or your status immunities.

INT's are using 4 trees, need to go down to 3. INT-Spears will be non-existant

Prepare for your future. Didnt your mother ever tell you that?

I dont build characters for PvM. I build them for PvP.

Good luck, have fun:)

i am hybrid and i have my plan

light 100
weapon 100
fire 50
ice 50

fire for phy attack buff
ice for mana shield

its enough to make a difference since they are based on %s

[Pred]

If you are not using Fire

A - Your Physical damage is low, losing 17%
B - You are not immune to status Effects. (Freeze = Death)
C - Your Imbue damage lower
D - Your Mdef is low.

[Disconn3cted]

If you are not using Fire

A - Your Physical damage is low, losing 17%
B - You are not immune to status Effects. (Freeze = Death)
C - Your Imbue damage lower
D - Your Mdef is low.

A i am int hybrid and i wont lose a 17% more like about 8% of that for having it at 50

B i dont care no one uses ice anyway

C its less than a 200 dmg difference i have tested this myself

D as said before i am INT hybrid

[Pred]

light 100
weapon 100
fire 50
ice 50

fire for phy attack buff
ice for mana shield

its enough to make a difference since they are based on %s

IMO that is a junk build.

There are no Defense bonuses at 50. Only at 60/61.
Your immunity is at 61% meaning you need 20% perfect blues on all of your jewelry.
Snow shield at level 49 is only 33% No bonus until 60.

[Disconn3cted]

light 100
weapon 100
fire 50
ice 50

fire for phy attack buff
ice for mana shield

its enough to make a difference since they are based on %s

IMO that is a junk build.

There are no Defense bonuses at 50. Only at 60/61.
Your immunity is at 61% meaning you need 20% perfect blues on all of your jewelry.
Snow shield at level 49 is only 33% No bonus until 60.

as said before i dont care about immunity but 33% compared to 50% is not that big of a difference and this build will use A LOT less sp than the normal 3 lvl 100 masteries i have fire for the phy dmg buff only maybe i would change the ratio of 50 ice to 50 fire at some point that is more or less how it will be

[Pred]

Either way, the point is with a hybrid, you have to sacrifice stats and skills to add into other areas.

You wont excel in one thing, or the other. It is just a half-assed build. Right now the way Chinese characters are designed is actually flawed.

European race is the correct way of character progression and build/mixes.

If you do not see that. Then you should probably play more MMOs.

Diablo 2 is by far better in character design than any other game I have played. Thats what I used to do in my Psych class before I got kicked out.

You dont have to question my judgement on this, but you'll be questioning your death when you die in PvP, Siege, or War.

[non ego man]

Decreasing Shield Defense does not decrease Block Ratio.

Me-> Of course. Thanks.

[Aiyas]

Either way, the point is with a hybrid, you have to sacrifice stats and skills to add into other areas.

You wont excel in one thing, or the other. It is just a half-assed build. Right now the way Chinese characters are designed is actually flawed.

European race is the correct way of character progression and build/mixes.

If you do not see that. Then you should probably play more MMOs.

Diablo 2 is by far better in character design than any other game I have played. Thats what I used to do in my Psych class before I got kicked out.

You dont have to question my judgement on this, but you'll be questioning your death when you die in PvP, Siege, or War.

So, is there any good hybrid build?

[Pred]

Currently Hybrids are ok. Spears.

Later updates hybrids will be crippled due to lack of skills.

If Chinese was built correctly from the beginning, mastery increase will go up by 3 every level. Meaning maximum right now would be 240.

This limits you to 3 trees.

Hybrids need 4 trees to be effective.

Pure Int's will be unable to use Weapon skills later on. Which is why you will opt to use sword/shield instead of spear.

STR's can live without Ice tree. I do laugh everytime i see a STR user with Snow Shield because he cant cast any skills after he gets hit.

Think about it.

[Tatianasaphira]

I think the most I have crit'ed for is 3k on a Spider at 46.

I love my hybrid Str and I would not trade her for anything.

[Sethzor]

so boring arguing which build is better lmao.... d2all str nuker > u all xD

[Pred]

This type of MMO is really strictly based on gear.

Hybrids require better gear then pures to make up for the losses. Even if you were to buy damage/reduce scrolls from the item mall, it would equal about the same.

Basically what im saying is, you could have a crappy statted character but have full Sun gear. Of course you will always be better than a pure build with crappy gear.

[mypride]

I do laugh everytime i see a STR user with Snow Shield because he cant cast any skills after he gets hit.

Think about it.

im have pure str and i have enough mana to cast skills when i have mana shield on

[Pred]

I do laugh everytime i see a STR user with Snow Shield because he cant cast any skills after he gets hit.

Think about it.

im have pure str and i have enough mana to cast skills when i have mana shield on

Thats because your not taking / tanking enough damage.

Go fight in a war.

[ping_lo]

lol Pred, stop defending and saying ur char is godlike, (thats what i understand after i read ur BS)

Really? Because I did not get any of that here. Hehe if you want some of that I hear D2A is your man/woman/person. Hehe not that I have anything against D2A.

why should i even say to a dagger go INT if their weapons dont have mag damage?, u should first learn about the game by urself than talk about others,

And maybe you should focus a bit more on reading comprehension. Reading the statement correctly it implies that if you tell a rogue to invest in int points they would laugh and tell you that was a stupid idea. So in reality here you are just agreeing with him and preaching to the choir.

and do u really think that all INT hybrids use only nukes in PVE? if i am right they are doing pretty more damage with blade and glaive skills as well, but its just magical attack , maybe their crits are lower but, lol overall damage dude, try to ks a sosun SWORDER, and tell me how is this ended, and who got the kill, while waiting for ur crit he will do every hit almost the same damage as ur crits, so gg, if u can test it, ill myself would like to see you prooving otherwise xD

Current performance does not indicate future prospects. Since you posted this pred has put up some good points. Read, understand, and learn them. If joymax never raises chinese mastery cap (has never been raised in the past) by lvl 100 you can only max out 3 trees. By lvl 140 you will have just enough to max out 2 trees!!!! What does this mean? By end game time both chars chinese and euro are meant to have 2 masteries. Well that or a bunch of gimped masteries. If your Trees etc are not maxed you loose a ton of damage etc. You loose damage maybe you can tank better but you will not kill any better. Look at it this way. As a blader each time you lvl you r mastery you do 1% more damage. Same goes for force and things like imbues. So say as an int hybrid you will end up really fuxored. You might do alright with 100% weap and light masteries. But then you loose all posibility of stat imunity and reduce plus mana shield etc. You will get frozen and raped hard. If you want to keep some sort of status reduce or mana shield you have to gimp the masteries. You could go 4 trees to lvl 75. But by end game your weapon and imbues will hit about 50% weaker than someone who did not gimp their masteries. 50% is alot! Can a small hybridization make up for a 50% reduction in output damage? Is it worth it? Ultimatly no. Pred is 100% right on this.

Now the question is. Is this the case atm. No. With current allocations int hybrid etc are workable builds. But each time the cap goes up they are going to get weaker and weaker. While the pure ones will get stronger and stronger. So if you like your hybrid build live in the now. The moment. Because the future is not that bright. You might be tough at this cap. But it is all down hill from here. This is of course not an issue if you plan to quit playing or playing said char after one of these upcoming caps.

Go ahead build what you like and have fun. Fun is the name of the game. Just keep in mind that the fun might get lost as the game progresses.

[ping_lo]

Oh and in case anyone was curious I have a hybrid blade and an int hybrid nuker. An interesting question might be why then do I play on my pure str blade and pure str rogue almost exclusively then?

[NuclearSilo]

At lvl 140, a pure str fire will gain 30% phy dmg from fire buff. Same for pure int. While for a hybrid, in order to deal a decent dmg, u need to max both 30% phy & 30% mag buff dmg. That's the only inconvenient at lvl 140.

But dont be so sure. It's very hard to build for cap 140.

[Fly]

eww ppl still defending hybrids after 2 years of hard facts that they blow chunks.