Euro Questions.

HyorunmarouZ · Post by **HyorunmarouZ** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:01 am

Vandall wrote:thanks Guru.
nother few Q's:
1. is it better to be a rouge build if u wanna be a hardcore thief, since they have all those cool stealth and mark ur enemy skills
2. r u the only 1 that sees the mark ur enemy skill, or does he/she no also that ur watching him?

Warriors have a buff that lets them see invisible rogues, but in a short range (10m or so).

IguanaRampage · Post by **IguanaRampage** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:07 am

Will the increased euro healing powers make it worth rerolling a cleric for all people aiming to be healers in iSRO, considering the time it takes to reroll (lets say they've been playing their char for 6 months) and the 6 books of vital spot Chinese will get?

HyorunmarouZ · Post by **HyorunmarouZ** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:23 am

IguanaRampage wrote:Will the increased euro healing powers make it worth rerolling a cleric for all people aiming to be healers in iSRO, considering the time it takes to reroll (lets say they've been playing their char for 6 months) and the 6 books of vital spot Chinese will get?

Well... a cleric has party heal so... i think it will be hell useful in job wars and guild wars. So i'd say that yes, chinese are a fighting race imo. Clerics are totally focused on healing.

desolator144 · Post by **desolator144** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:50 am

I still don't know how the hell they're implementing it. First I heard, KSRO made it a completely other game with new monsters from lvl 1 on up. And maplestory did the exact same thing with Maplesea or whatever they called the underwater one. It sounded like some of the stuff in Euro was completely incompatible with regular SRO. So....wtf? Can euro character only stay in Euro towns and hunt Euro monsters like that dumb vegetable looking lvl 1 one lol. Can we trade run between the places? Can we even fight each other?!?! Is it even gonna be on the same servers? lol nobody really knows.

HyorunmarouZ · Post by **HyorunmarouZ** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:02 am

desolator144 wrote:I still don't know how the hell they're implementing it. First I heard, KSRO made it a completely other game with new monsters from lvl 1 on up. And maplestory did the exact same thing with Maplesea or whatever they called the underwater one. It sounded like some of the stuff in Euro was completely incompatible with regular SRO. So....wtf? Can euro character only stay in Euro towns and hunt Euro monsters like that dumb vegetable looking lvl 1 one lol. Can we trade run between the places? Can we even fight each other?!?! Is it even gonna be on the same servers? lol nobody really knows.

They will make a new client which includes all the Jangan-MT Roc part and all the Euro part.

You will be able to travel from Jangan to Constantinople if you want. And fight any mob you want. Euro mobs are lvl 1-40 if i'm not mistaken, meaning that Euros will eventually have to grind in the Chinese part i.e. Karakoram, Taklamakan, etc

You can use the teleporter stones to travel to each town:
Constantinople --> 2nd euro town (dunno the name)

Constantinople <-- 2nd Euro town --> Hotan

2nd Euro town <-- Hotan --> DW

Hotan <-- DW --> Jangan

DW <-- Jangan

So going from Constantinople to Jangan and hunt Mangyans with an euro char, using this method, would cost you 25k approx.

They will use the same servers and maybe add more. And of course they can fight each other, that's one of the main features of this update, the fight between races, and so will be when the Islam comes. The kind of battles of Castle Siege or whatever they call it (Legend VI).

desolator144 · Post by **desolator144** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:16 am

ooh cool U rock

finally someone who's not just guessing lol. That's cool, I wanna bust up some wizards lol. Somehow your post reminded me that all thieves are islamic thieves already, cuz Joymax wanted to be historically accurate. It says right on their website that all in game theives are muslims lol. But seriously that's how it was back then. So put on a thief outfit and BAM there's the islam update rofl

not really but hey lol

larvs · Post by **larvs** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:08 am

what do those extra slots fo skills do that i always see in euro vids?

that was a neat SS you posted darealest, have you actually seen a euro vs. chinese 1 vs. 1?

and somone before said that we will have toi finally learn to use "LFG" lol! nice!

HyorunmarouZ · Post by **HyorunmarouZ** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:24 am

larvs wrote:what do those extra slots fo skills do that i always see in euro vids?

that was a neat SS you posted darealest, have you actually seen a euro vs. chinese 1 vs. 1?

and somone before said that we will have toi finally learn to use "LFG" lol! nice!

The extra slots are just that... extra slots. If you have a skill that you use often, but haven't more space in the quick slot row, and you aren't good for changing fast ebtween them. You could click them with the mouse while using the numbers with the other hand...

It's a "quick slot expansion" hehe at least for what i've seen... but it doesn't look like has any more features.

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:18 am

Is there any like really significant differences between Euro and Chinese.

In terms of the U/I
Game Settings
Game Flow
Guilds/Party/Trades/Theifs ect...

?

reddragonz · Post by **reddragonz** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:38 am

What i am noticing in csro, is that the euro buffers are buffing up with the chinese charcters to make them even stronger. Mixed race partys pwn all. imo

Also when it does come to isro, with the tickets working in auto share partys. There be lvl 40 euros within 24 hours. Just partner up with a lvl 80 nuker and powerlevel on some lvl 60+ party mobs for the day.

Post by **Stress** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:13 pm

Immagine STR chinese bowers with new strong bows + arrow combos together with Euro Crossbows (ranged KD+Stab), being buffed by clerics and guarded by chinese ice/light bladers with new mass KD + quad stabs, level 12 ironwall, level 12 frost guard, level 9 ice passive and a 9d shield toghether as a team. w00t

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:50 pm

Good point...

Ok, would it be better to have a mixed group or Euro only group?

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:35 pm

larvs wrote:that was a neat SS you posted darealest, have you actually seen a euro vs. chinese 1 vs. 1?

Yes.

Key-J wrote:Good point...

Ok, would it be better to have a mixed group or Euro only group?

For wars or leveling? If you're going to do wars then have a mixed group. For leveling have all Euro. If a Chinese character join he make the whole party useless. There will be no need for a cleric, bard, tanker class, etc. Chinese character can handle everything by himself.

Jhinoko · Post by **Jhinoko** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:34 pm

What about powerlvling using the new share parties...I heard that you could power lvl someone up to 60 in less than a week. Any of that true?

desolator144 · Post by **desolator144** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:39 pm

Jhinoko wrote:What about powerlvling using the new share parties...I heard that you could power lvl someone up to 60 in less than a week. Any of that true?

I heard that was only true in the beta cuz they forgot to cap it or calculated it wrong or something like that.

Jhinoko · Post by **Jhinoko** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:40 pm

ic...damn

soulcollector · Post by **soulcollector** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:00 pm

Will DELEVEL be still posible in euro

HyorunmarouZ · Post by **HyorunmarouZ** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:13 pm

soulcollector wrote:Will DELEVEL be still posible in euro

Yes but you start losing experience for dying from lvl 11 not 5. And it applies for euro and chinese.

nightbloom · Post by **nightbloom** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:25 pm

As in most games that have clerics, a cleric never goes without a party. Ppl are looking for you because it is so essential to a good grind. A euro party that is a fast leveling one needs a cleric, bard, tank/str char and wiz. The healer uses mass amounts of MP, the bard can refill that, wiz does fast dmg with multiple nukes and tanker/str chars can hold a party mob or giants aggro while the party kills it. The necro seems mostly a PVP useful char imo.

Yes Euro chars need SP unless you arent getting all the skills. At 45 I started to notice that I was running out if I wanted all the buffs and attacks. Each class is like having three masteries in chinese. At lower levels, you dont notice it much, but as you get higher, your skills outnumber your SP gain. It's better to pair up low level healers with higher level dmg dealers so you can leave your skills a little low and farm a bit.

desolator144 · Post by **desolator144** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:18 pm

hey you know what else recharges MP...potions lol. What's to stop a lvl 20 wizard and healer from using the largest MP pots? Nothing lol. Sounds like bard is kinda dumb lol. I'm gonna disregard the system as usual and build a one man army character like I did with chinese (pure int with every HP bonus U can get) Speaking of that, what's to stop a wizard from adding HP and str to all his equipment? Lol, every "disadvantage" they made to a class is really easily worked around lol.

sama98b · Post by **sama98b** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:00 pm

Was thinking about writing useful replay...

But changed my mind

don't want 100000 from the same builds
on isro whenever it comes out.

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:27 pm

Jhinoko wrote:What about powerlvling using the new share parties...I heard that you could power lvl someone up to 60 in less than a week. Any of that true?

Yea, its true. You can get to 40 in a day if you have a good power leveler. Getting to 60 in a week from there would probably be a real challenge though.

desolator144 wrote:hey you know what else recharges MP...potions lol. What's to stop a lvl 20 wizard and healer from using the largest MP pots? Nothing lol. Sounds like bard is kinda dumb lol. I'm gonna disregard the system as usual and build a one man army character like I did with chinese (pure int with every HP bonus U can get) Speaking of that, what's to stop a wizard from adding HP and str to all his equipment? Lol, every "disadvantage" they made to a class is really easily worked around lol.

Pots have 15 sec cool down. You're going to be constantly fighting since the spawns are like the bandit archer place. Buying pots too big for you is a waste of gold since its not like they're going to keep your mp full for the whole 15 sec cool down. Also, you're fighting in a share party. All gold is divided among everyone. I don't think you would like to waste you already little gold on larger mp pots when someone else can fill your mp for free. Bard also has other skills... One is like a harmony circle except its only effects the bard and he can move while its activated. He also can make mobs fight each other.

Adding HP and str to your gear is not really going to help much. You have a 15 sec pot delay. You're already pure int. Its not like you can go armor. Its either garment-like gear or light armor. In order to do your major damage, you got to have your buff activated that increase your mag attack power by 50% and add more mag damage to your stat. It also lowers your def by 50% or 75%. I'm not exactly sure about how much it raises your attack and lower your defense....

You won't be a one man killing army with these characters. lol

GuruSikh · Post by **GuruSikh** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:24 pm

Vandall wrote:thanks Guru.
nother few Q's:
1. is it better to be a rouge build if u wanna be a hardcore thief, since they have all those cool stealth and mark ur enemy skills
2. r u the only 1 that sees the mark ur enemy skill, or does he/she no also that ur watching him?

1. Yes, but would advise to get a good weapon with good critical cuz rogues really depend on criticals do damage cuz thier damage isn't that high compared to other builds.

2. She/he doesn't otherwise that skill is pointless cuz its a stealth skill. He/she can see if they use that skil that detects rogues. I don't what the euro skill that is, but chineses have 2 lvl 30 skills in the fire tree that detects rogues within a certain distance. At lvl 80, they have advance verison of the lvl 30 one.

Jhinoko · Post by **Jhinoko** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:09 am

What about the clothing/armors in euro? Is it like the chinese where they have the three different sets. Or do they have armor that is class related or something of the sort?

GuruSikh · Post by **GuruSikh** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:09 am

They 3 types of gear like the chinese, but only certain classes can wear certain gear.

Warrior-Armor
Rogue-Protector
Wizard-Garment
Warlock-Garement
Cleric-Protector
Bard-Garment

For example a wizard can wear armor if he/she has skill tree of a wizard and warrior. I have seen many lvl 81-90 pure int euro char get cleric as 2nd mastery so they can wear protector & plus for the buffs.

GaS · Post by **GaS** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:38 am

I believe when Euro comes out for iSRO all the legit people will be on the Euro side and the botters will be on the Chinese side. Lolz

Huge Chinese vs Euro south don.
Botters vs Legits

Anyways...
Do any of you know any good Euro vs Chinese pvp videos?

GuruSikh · Post by **GuruSikh** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:54 pm

I don't know of any, but if your in ksro, around morning everyday eastern time, alot of lvl 90s pvp & thieves dominate hunters. On the weekends, hunters dominate the thieves ^^.