Regarding Plvl rule and the Rebirth union

[chickenfeather]

Looks like all these whiners that need to be plvled in order to level need to be banned from union because they will be useless once they hit higher levels and can't grind at all.

[Ch4otik]

it's more meaningful to climb a mountain than to be dropped off at the top by a helicopter

[NuclearSilo]

it's more meaningful to climb a mountain than to be dropped off at the top by a helicopter

It's even worst to be dropped in the middle of the way: you can't turn back and you didn't reach the arrival yet. If it's a normal person without climbing skill, he'll sure be dead.
There are 2 options:
- learn to climb from the beginning and reach the arrival by himself
- do nothing and wait the helicopter, you still reach the arrival

[Noobs_Slayer]

Why so homo? Being low level at sro sucks, it's sucks to be bellow 70, it sux to get pwnd by almost all mobs when you comming out the city and on conclusion i may roughly say that your rule sucks ass with a straw.

[Kronos]

Looks like all these whiners that need to be plvled in order to level need to be banned from union because they will be useless once they hit higher levels and can't grind at all.

+1, and btw i really think your guild/union should help each other more....

We accepted even lv.30 ppl on our Mujigis pts for example or Lv.3X ppl on penons, when there were some free spots available in the pt and they could fill the spot for example as bard or as buffing warrior. In our union on KSRO we don't allow any plevel at all, but it's quite normal that the higher levels help the lower levels in our union. The most important thing in a good union is, that you help each other, even if you have to pt on monsters, who are 5 or more levels lower than you. You do it for your guildmates and if they catch up to your level, you'll have more ppl around your level for doing pts. As a result of this, you can get better pts at higher level monsters and level faster.

If you want this whole thing to be more succesfull, you should work together like a team and help each other. It's always better, if most ppl are around the same level, as it's easier to make pts then. So if you can't find a pt at your level, try to help some lower levels instead.

A good legit union can only exist for a long time, if everyone helps each other, especially if it is on a foreign sro version, as in our case. You can't always pt on monsters 10-15 levels higher than you, if there are no ppl available. I would prefer having niya guards or niya generals pt too, but if there are none, i usually go help the pts in cave, although the monsters there are a few lv. lower than me. But at least the lv.5X ppl in guild/union will catch up and reach lv.60+, if i go at cave and help out there. Then i have more ppl for making niya guards or niya general pts and can level faster too.

[Ch4otik]

well put Kronos. well put.

[Braka]

we do let the lvl 3x ppl into our mujigi pt usually the bards or a wiz that cant do anything but they still get in , 1st come 1st serve on pt opening as long as theres a warrior / cleric around

[Cruor]

Does no one miss the days when there were maybe one or two godly players per server? The leveling curve is exponential for a reason. If you want a fair game, go play Guild Wars. I am perfectly content saying this, despite having never passed 60 myself. And I've been around longer than most of you whippersnappers, too.

It was bad enough when the bots came out, but powerleveling is what truly ruined the game.

[Woody93]

I still see a lot of people complaining they can't catch up with us. I started a barf, lvld it to 30, started over again and plvld Wouter (my rogue) to 32). Then I started AGAIN and got a lvl 30 nuker.

After all that I decided to go on with Wouter, solo'ed it from 32 till 36, and got from 36 till 40 with party's. I lvld 8lvls in 1 week I guess. Catching up isn't that hard. Believe me

[Markoes1990]

good point woods

[ninshad]

i started a barf

i would barf too if i played on iris

[_Equal_]

Man, this powerleveling thing always comes up. It is only natural for everyone in a guild to want to be part of something, some party or to be in a party with guild members. That is tough if most of the guild is higher.

I've been thinking about that, what about power parties? When a higher level basically tanks most mobs and hits but infrequently while the lower levels buff up as much as possible and PLAY their character.For example last night Girlpower was again at wing tribes. We have a glavier tanking/attacking, 68 warrior providing fences/buffs and attacking, a 79 wiz doing dmg, a 73 bard/cleric doing tambours and recovery division and attacking, a 68 blader doing ice and attacking when he can. No, it's not ideal, but we are playing our characters as much as possible in a party situation. Power level to me is when people sit too much at higher lvl mobs and don't end up understanding the basic mechanics of their character.

If nothing else, we have some alts at low levels to assist teaching party play. I'm not sure what else we can do, play too many alts and you won't learn all the classes well.

[CeLL]

cb, if you cant get a party, you can always grind. you dont have to stall and ctf the whole time. considering this movement isnt as big as what happened on venus, and we are legit, people arent always going to be online. i dont want do be rude, but stop whining and go grind. i have a very spuratic schedule. i have a family to take care of. i dont get to party often. i solo ALOT. now i am only lvl 29, but ive been busy with me real life.

[chickenfeather]

@ Kronos : I totally agree with this thought process and we do help each other out whenever possible. However, there are those that log in and ask "any plvl?", then when there aren't any plvls, they log off even if there is a real party at their level. Useless. Or you let them in your party and they say, "i'll be afk for X hours, don't let me die." Then they die and complain that you suck at plvling. Useless.

@ _Equal_ : power parties are the best, because everyone is involved and not just afk.

[Ch4otik]

honestly mister chicken. i have not once seen a member of the union ask for plvl. at least not since there were a few 3x's and a buncha 1x's.
and yes. power parties ftw.

p.s. holy moly. cell. lvl 29. craptastic. i reeeeeally need to play more.

[CeLL]

yes you do.

[Bananaman]

what are you tryingto achieve with this post? Plvl is plvl enjoy free exp as much as you can

Our Union does not allow power lvl after lvl 32
If anyone is caught they get an instant ban from the guilds

That sucks, you know why? Because if person finds a nice friend which seems to be legitimate and gets plvl to get banned from guild, nonsence rule. What else rule are, can't have more gold than 1m? Anyways some of the rules are nonsence, i remember i plvld my guild mates to lvl 52 when i had non premium time.

hehe, ON Tsro I had a lvl 78 bard wiz in the *new* avalon group they had over there, I offered to help one of the original avalon guys in plvl since he had just got back form vacation and we needed more good warriors to party with. Then someone got all mad about it cause I didnt offer him a plvl or something and the *leader* I think his name was friends or something gay like that, all of a sudden changed the rule to not allow plvl at all lol

I quit after that, as no one was going to tell me who I was and wasnt goign to plvl on my own time. . .

a few weeks later everyone got banned from tsro...all hail avalon amirite? (from being with them I know know why people all over these forums collectively groan when they mention something about reviving legits on venus. . .it became more than just being legit, it became if person(A) doesnt like someone and they are *higher up* on the ladder or something then they can bitch and get the half assed leaders to tell you how to play your character)

There is no reason why you should have to play like that, sure, play legit, but if someone plvls you and their doing it by HAND, by all means let em do it, they are probably doing it because they are short of a certain class (in our case warriors)and they NEED you, so yeah let him do it and you can party with them, screw the guild.

now if he bot plvls you. . .thats pretty lame.

If I were you Id just leave that guild or that server, or play ksro (screw bot infested Rsro)

[Bananaman]

In my head the only obvious conclusion of this is simply to not allow power lvl at all.

I would actually agree here I would also add power parties as well, disallow those I mean if the guys who are all like *its better to climb a mountain than to be dropped off at the top in a helicopter REALLY put their money where their mouth is, then they would agree

sure other people may be doing *work* but you still have a high ass lvl character doing most of it when you all should be. . .*climbing the mountain*

now really cbkiller, play how you want as long as you dont bot use third party programs etc. . .if your in a guild and situation that you dont like LEAVE, theres tons of other servers/versions you can play and other people you can play with I would personally take offense and give the finger to people who would say *oh you cant plvl a friend* or *oh you cant be plvled* my character is my character, I play how I want without using other programs or relying on others who do and if others dont like that, I have no problem finding and making new friends on different servers/same server/different version/different game even.

YOU have the power, one guild isnt just SOO good that they could demand you to do things you dont want to do. but hey its not my union, or guild and I dont play with those people anymore, too much drama for a game, just hopping in, finding a party is much more preferable, and if a server has no parties to join, Ill go somewhere else, if a server isnt active enough to have people at all levels partying, then youre on the wrong server anyway

[chickenfeather]

In my head the only obvious conclusion of this is simply to not allow power lvl at all.

I would actually agree here I would also add power parties as well, disallow those I mean if the guys who are all like *its better to climb a mountain than to be dropped off at the top in a helicopter REALLY put their money where their mouth is, then they would agree

sure other people may be doing *work* but you still have a high ass lvl character doing most of it when you all should be. . .*climbing the mountain*

So you see no difference between me luring and tanking 20 mobs for a lvl 60 wizard and me sitting around afk letting a lvl 60 wizard doing all the killing for me? I think there is a huge difference between power parties and power leveling.