What's up with anti-american parties?

Elija · Post by **Elija** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:49 am

LOL, that's very funny you mentioned that, lol, dang i cant stop LOL,lol, but yeah im not sure if you knew the history-when i was still playing on Venus the americans attempted to drive out all the other races. Good luck to ya.

Truie · Post by **Truie** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:52 am

Sharp324 wrote:Jealousy, we are better, they suck. They know it, they say we suck but cant stop talking about us.

yeah americans you are better : at shitting everywhere
that's precisely this "we are better" attitude that makes you hated and/or despised everywhere.
notice that the people despising you are not looking up to you, and have no motive to.

the crux of the problem is how the "citizens of the (corporation called) united states" need this "we are better" attitude to have any sense of identity. It rests on a vacuum that would engulf them if they faced reality. Somehow "americans" cant see themselves as just another people in just another country, in a world rich of people and countries and cultures.

it is insanity, and a promise of self destruction in the long run.

Prelibiton · Post by **Prelibiton** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:05 am

MidnightMan wrote:be proud that you from the USA, if it wasnt for the USA

1.)most if not all of Europe would be ran by Nazi Germany,

the american d-day?fail

xxbrentonxx wrote:
It is also possible that with no USA, there would still be the Ottoman Empire or one large Islamic state.

what is the common between the U.S. and the Ottoman empire?link?

Truie · Post by **Truie** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:35 am

MidnightMan wrote:
Pfff wrote:
MidnightMan wrote:be proud that you from the USA, if it wasnt for the USA

1.)most if not all of Europe would be ran by Nazi Germany,
2.)Kuwait would be part of Iraq,
3.)There wouldn't be North and South Korea it would be just Korea (ran by the North)
4.)There would be no Isreal, Iran would own that.
5.) need i go on........

Not hating USA or anything, but also you can say if there wasnt USA it would be prolly much less shit in the world.

none of those conflicts were started by the USA, we were brought into them and just ended it.

The USA has a bad habit of TRY to be the good guy and help people, Half the time we should just let other countries get overran and burn for comments like that.

and I am speaking from knowledge, spent 18 months in Iraq putting up with their shit

i guess we should all thank you for having participated actively in the decimation (like, killing one in every ten people) of the iraqian people.
thank you freedom bringing american !!
we dont understand how you can be hated ! :roll:

must be jealousy indeed.

yes, the iraqian people have suffered over 2 millions deaths because first of the UN blockade then the two iraq wars. All heavily supported and sometimes initiated by the united states of america.
2 million people died out of a people of 22 millions total.
that's 10%.
scaled to the population of the united states, that would be 30 million americans dead in 15 years.
and you call that bringing freedom, peace and democracy.
and you can say that with a straight face
the wonderful achievements of propaganda.
that's america for you : nazi germany wearing a clown mask.

dutchleader · Post by **dutchleader** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:08 am

The arabic world is just anti western, they dont like our culture and America is in their eyes even worse then Europe.

Why? Well there is a long history and I dont feel like going into detail about that, because its deadly boring. Lets just say that they cant get over things that happened in the past.

Dyegov · Post by **Dyegov** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:17 pm

Wow, nice to see how a topic can deform itself so fast, and I feel guilty for starting it (Though I never spoke of nazis, culture or whatever you're talking about lol). Anyway, I said what I wanted to say and I know when to get out of a topic (since this is going nowhere). Thanks for the good responses (Except from some jerks here and there). It's nice to have a good intelligent discussion once in a while.

renegadebow · Post by **renegadebow** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:21 pm

Truie wrote:
MidnightMan wrote:be proud that you from

none of those conflicts were started by the USA, we were brought into them and just ended it.

The USA has a bad habit of TRY to be the good guy and help people, Half the time we should just let other countries get overran and burn for comments like that.

and I am speaking from knowledge, spent 18 months in Iraq putting up with their shit

i guess we should all thank you for having participated actively in the decimation (like, killing one in every ten people) of the iraqian people.
thank you freedom bringing american !!
we dont understand how you can be hated !
must be jealousy indeed.

yes, the iraqian people have suffered over 2 millions deaths because first of the UN blockade then the two iraq wars. All heavily supported and sometimes initiated by the united states of america.
2 million people died out of a people of 22 millions total.
that's 10%.
scaled to the population of the united states, that would be 30 million americans dead in 15 years.
and you call that bringing freedom, peace and democracy.
and you can say that with a straight face
the wonderful achievements of propaganda.
that's america for you : nazi germany wearing a clown mask.

What propaganda? Oh, and yes. Were DEFINITELY nazi germany!

Also think of the war this way. Say you were a leady of a small country. One day, terrorists destroyed part of your country, and casualtys in the 1000's Would you just sit around? Or fight back?

Beto_Chavez · Post by **Beto_Chavez** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:49 pm

I love how this thread turned into an "Let's bash America thread"...Pretty cool. Anyways...

Coming from someone who lives in the US, the majority of the US citizens do not have this so called "we are better" philosophy at all. In fact, most of us feel quite the opposite. Our government has a lot to do with the US looking like sh1t to the eyes of the rest of the world, not the every day Joe living here. We did not vote to be in all these wars. I for one have no say in 95% of what the government does. Land of the free yes but land of choice, not exactly. Saying that "Americans think they are better then everyone else" is highly stereotypical.

xxbrentonxx · Post by **xxbrentonxx** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:53 pm

Prelibiton wrote:
MidnightMan wrote:be proud that you from the USA, if it wasnt for the USA

1.)most if not all of Europe would be ran by Nazi Germany,

the american d-day?fail
xxbrentonxx wrote:
It is also possible that with no USA, there would still be the Ottoman Empire or one large Islamic state.

what is the common between the U.S. and the Ottoman empire?link?

Hypothetically without USA and the conflicts we have discussed, its very possible that the Ottoman empire would not have split up. I have nothing to proove or disproove it but if everything is so different, anything is possible.

Trace · Post by **Trace** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:48 pm

Haha! OP he didn't kicked you out because you were American. He kicked you out because he is an asshole, much like the rest of the community. Happens to everyone from time to time, so get used to it and you might just fit right in

Dyegov · Post by **Dyegov** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:16 pm

Beto_Chavez wrote:Our government has a lot to do with the US looking like sh1t to the eyes of the rest of the world.

Now that I come to think about this it's true. And now that I come to think about it, I have something bad to say about almost every country, including mine. I guess we're all equal after all

MidnightMan · Post by **MidnightMan** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:30 pm

Truie wrote:yes, the iraqian people have suffered over 2 millions deaths because first of the UN blockade then the two iraq wars. All heavily supported and sometimes initiated by the united states of america.
2 million people died out of a people of 22 millions total.
that's 10%.
scaled to the population of the united states, that would be 30 million americans dead in 15 years.
and you call that bringing freedom, peace and democracy.
and you can say that with a straight face
the wonderful achievements of propaganda.
that's america for you : nazi germany wearing a clown mask.

your a real idiot if you think the USA is responsible for the deaths of the Iraqi people, wake up and open your eyes, the reason Iraqi people die is because they cant even live peacefully among each other, its one big religious battle in that counrty, iraqi's killing iraqis, and what the USA did was remove a Dictator and his sons that were responsible for the rape, torture, and murder of countless iraqi citizans.

the US does not go into counrties to randomly kill people, if the US kills an Iraqi person its because they were hostile towards the US, uneducated people such as you are the reason there are so many problems in the middle east. :banghead:

what country are you from?

Trace · Post by **Trace** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:45 pm

MidnightMan wrote:uneducated people such as you are the reason there are so many problems in the middle east.

no u

It doesn't matter if you believe that the US liberated Iraq by killing it's dictator, or that the US just did that to pre-emptively attack to prevent being attacked by weapons of mass destruction, when US attacked Iraq a lot of civilians unnecessarily died. Since when does the humanitarian rights and welfare of another country goes above and beyond the needs of the destitute and very poor from your very own backyard hmm?

CeLL · Post by **CeLL** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:57 pm

To say that america doesn’t view itself as "just another people in just another country," is because we arent. We are all peoples from all countries. we americans don’t feel we are better than anyone. That’s just bullshit spread by angry ignorant people. But then again whats explaining anything going to do? You are who you are and you think as you want (are told) to think.

pr0klobster · Post by **pr0klobster** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:26 pm

Used to happen occasionally, but the only thing I can think of is because we couldn't communicate in a party.

I don't speak Turkish or Spanish, although I try to learn a bit. But if they spoke enough English and knew how to play, sure. Turks in parties didn't kick me out and I wouldn't kick them out - I'd let them leave, or die if I couldn't tell them "No, don't attack that party champion by yourself while everyone else is over here with the two party giants".

You could replace Turks with Koreans, Vietnamese, Indians, Brazilians, etc. It's just the language barrier.

strangelove · Post by **strangelove** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:26 pm

Truie wrote:that's america for you : nazi germany wearing a clown mask.

lol Godwin

pr0klobster · Post by **pr0klobster** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:59 pm

Fug_Dup wrote:
Truie wrote:that's america for you : nazi germany wearing a clown mask.

lol Godwin

Quirk's exception!

strangelove · Post by **strangelove** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:28 pm

pr0klobster wrote:
Fug_Dup wrote:
Truie wrote:that's america for you : nazi germany wearing a clown mask.

lol Godwin

Quirk's exception!

Quirk's Exception denied! *gavel hits desk*

pr0klobster · Post by **pr0klobster** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:01 pm

Quirk's Exception denied! *gavel hits desk*

you...you...Nazi! ;-)

Ownage · Post by **Ownage** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:04 pm

MidnightMan wrote:
Pfff wrote:
MidnightMan wrote:be proud that you from the USA, if it wasnt for the USA

1.)most if not all of Europe would be ran by Nazi Germany,
2.)Kuwait would be part of Iraq,
3.)There wouldn't be North and South Korea it would be just Korea (ran by the North)
4.)There would be no Isreal, Iran would own that.
5.) need i go on........

Not hating USA or anything, but also you can say if there wasnt USA it would be prolly much less shit in the world.

none of those conflicts were started by the USA, we were brought into them and just ended it.

The USA has a bad habit of TRY to be the good guy and help people, Half the time we should just let other countries get overran and burn for comments like that.

and I am speaking from knowledge, spent 18 months in Iraq putting up with their shit

i guess we should all thank you for having participated actively in the decimation (like, killing one in every ten people) of the iraqian people.
thank you freedom bringing american !!
we dont understand how you can be hated ! :roll:

must be jealousy indeed.

yes, the iraqian people have suffered over 2 millions deaths because first of the UN blockade then the two iraq wars. All heavily supported and sometimes initiated by the united states of america.
2 million people died out of a people of 22 millions total.
that's 10%.
scaled to the population of the united states, that would be 30 million americans dead in 15 years.
and you call that bringing freedom, peace and democracy.
and you can say that with a straight face
the wonderful achievements of propaganda.
that's america for you : nazi germany wearing a clown mask.[/quote]

O wow stfu I understand you don't like America's Iraq war, I and most Americans don't approve it either but whats with the Nazi German crap? Your some 9 year old kid getting taken in by the media the America is a bad country (I use to be the same) but once you learn about the stuff America did you can tell we have done many good things. And for the Ottoman empire part, you should know when you get into middle school (or junior high if thats what they call it where you live, that the Ottoman empire fought with the Germans in World War I. They lost and Ottoman grew weaker due to that since they lost land, and soon after guess what? Turkey got angry and left the Ottoman.

.AWAKE. · Post by **.AWAKE.** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:23 pm

America is the best country in the world

Ownage · Post by **Ownage** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:15 pm

.AWAKE. wrote:America is thebest country in the world

Everyone has their own opinions.

.AWAKE. · Post by **.AWAKE.** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:22 am

but mine is the best

Blinxx · Post by **Blinxx** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:28 am

Never happened to me ( when I used to play ), and I used to always party with different nationalities

. Never kicked me out for being " American ", nor do they ask me where I'm from and I used to always get into turkish/german/spanish/egyptian people parties. I thought our server was packed with assholes, guess not lol.

Mirosuke · Post by **Mirosuke** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:57 am

Sometimes, i say i am from Canada. lol

loveisintheair · Post by **loveisintheair** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:48 am

Why is this thread still open?

Uncus1 · Post by **Uncus1** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:06 am

ok lets be subjective besides the whole lets bash america part :

They're a young country , no real history , no specific culture

Founded by killing indians *native americans* cnt see why they wnt kill other people

They start the wars, occupy , profit from it

They cry everytime one american dies ignoring the hundreds of thousands of women and children that died in iraq and afghanistan who would still be alive otherwise

No one except them thinks they've liberated anyone

The population is very ignorant about what happens outside their state lol

Israel was formed by the brits btw lol not the US

They turn a blind eye to what ever israel is doing now thats the US

They accept that they have the highest polllution level ans arent doing anything about it

They also want to be the only nation woth WMDs how else would they terrorise the world therefor they're terrified of iran who hasnt done anything to them

Went into iraq just to feed their leader's ego lol who's a jackass anywayz even by their standards

Its ok for israel to own nuclear weps hmm ...

Q8 is now an american base not even quwait anymore at least the iraqi's would have been arabic speakers

the poor guy who got sent to iraq can u even speak arabic , do u know wether they want u there or not or if ur doing them such a great favour and thing is ur acting very much like hostile occupants we all know its for the oil though just dnt adopt the whole im doing this to help out the opressed nation lol

The iraqis had the best scientific programs in the region and were at least alive and fed during saddam , now no houses , occupied , internal wars and no leader .... Except their stupid guy who's america's puppet

Did u know that osama bin ladin was trained by the cia to do their dirty work =D

Ok so enoug cons lets start some pros

Obama , oh wait he just took the noble prize for nothing lol or rather intentions lol

Movies
Bimbos
Funny im an american attitude of the military
some scientific stuff although i think the germans/ japs are better at Inventing

And a fcked up economy lol

Lets refrain from quoting typos lol

aishsharma · Post by **aishsharma** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:40 am

loveisintheair wrote:Why is this thread still open?

why shouldnt it be, its a discussion and so far hasn't broken the rules yet, stretched em abit ya,broken no.
Although this thread has gone WAYYY offtopic, its still a good read.

Ownage · Post by **Ownage** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:41 am

Uncus1 wrote:ok lets be subjective besides the whole lets bash america part :

They're a young country , no real history , no specific culture

Founded by killing indians *native americans* cnt see why they wnt kill other people

They start the wars, occupy , profit from it

They cry everytime one american dies ignoring the hundreds of thousands of women and children that died in iraq and afghanistan who would still be alive otherwise

No one except them thinks they've liberated anyone

The population is very ignorant about what happens outside their state lol

Israel was formed by the brits btw lol not the US

They turn a blind eye to what ever israel is doing now thats the US

They accept that they have the highest polllution level ans arent doing anything about it

They also want to be the only nation woth WMDs how else would they terrorise the world therefor they're terrified of iran who hasnt done anything to them

Went into iraq just to feed their leader's ego lol who's a jackass anywayz even by their standards

Its ok for israel to own nuclear weps hmm ...

Q8 is now an american base not even quwait anymore at least the iraqi's would have been arabic speakers

the poor guy who got sent to iraq can u even speak arabic , do u know wether they want u there or not or if ur doing them such a great favour and thing is ur acting very much like hostile occupants we all know its for the oil though just dnt adopt the whole im doing this to help out the opressed nation lol

The iraqis had the best scientific programs in the region and were at least alive and fed during saddam , now no houses , occupied , internal wars and no leader .... Except their stupid guy who's america's puppet

Did u know that osama bin ladin was trained by the cia to do their dirty work =D

Ok so enoug cons lets start some pros

Obama , oh wait he just took the noble prize for nothing lol or rather intentions lol

Movies
Bimbos
Funny im an american attitude of the military
some scientific stuff although i think the germans/ japs are better at Inventing

And a fcked up economy lol

Lets refrain from quoting typos lol

I won't argue with you because you are right about a lot of things in there, but one war shouldn't bring down USA's reputation that much. All countries have had some war they aren't proud of, and most people I know don't support the Iraqi war anyways.

ping_lo · Post by **ping_lo** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:41 pm

Uncus1 wrote:ok lets be subjective besides the whole lets bash america part :

They're a young country , no real history , no specific culture

Uh there is lots of specific culture though that only shows ignorance on your part. It may not be my favorite culture but the US exports a lot of specific culture.

Uncus1 wrote:Founded by killing indians *native americans* cnt see why they wnt kill other people

As a native american I will say that the govt took advantage of my ancestors sure but the largest part of the killing specifically of indians was done by private groups not always linked to the govt. The govt could have done more to protect them sure. Though that could be said of all govts at one time or another. One thing I can say is that the US govt has made more progress on that front than most other govt's.

Uncus1 wrote:They start the wars, occupy , profit from it

Mostly against the wishes of the people. The only ones that want that are the corporations that buy and sell our government. A lot of us quite frankly would like to see either a re-set to the old definition or a total abolishment of corporations. Used to be a corporation was only created to achieve a goal an individual could not do and only for a very limited time. They were not always undying leaches on society.

Uncus1 wrote:They cry everytime one american dies ignoring the hundreds of thousands of women and children that died in iraq and afghanistan who would still be alive otherwise

So what you are saying is that we are largely like every other country on the planet then?

Uncus1 wrote:No one except them thinks they've liberated anyone

Dude you really need to talk to those south koreans. They got this thing in their head where they are glad we are there and think they need us. And just FYI while some corporate douches supported the Nazis the majority of the US was uninvolved or against them. It was US forces that helped turn the tides to liberate europe and rebuild most of it. Oh there is plenty bad to answer for sure. Like the US putting Saddam in power or Osama. But again that was something the people were not involved in or did not agree with as well.

Uncus1 wrote:The population is very ignorant about what happens outside their state lol

Uh you mean republicans. Not the population. I know plenty of so called conservatives that are all "America **** yeah" but they are a minority. Most people I know wonder why the hell our govt keeps putting all these douches in power only to have them attack us and have to go remove them. If it were honestly up to the people here we would probably be rather isolationist.

Uncus1 wrote:Israel was formed by the brits btw lol not the US

Brits carved it out of their old empire sure. But unfortunatly the US had a rather large hand in it.

Uncus1 wrote:They turn a blind eye to what ever israel is doing now thats the US

No that is Zionists and corporate douches again. Frankly Israiel can go **** itself all the fundy nutters who think jesus is gonna come back there need to read their book more.

Uncus1 wrote:They accept that they have the highest polllution level ans arent doing anything about it

Save for the fact that most of the green movement was started by us etc yeah totally true. I agree our govt has been ass backwards but we exchanged the retarted puppet for a more intelligent one but he is still better and we have made more environmental progress under him in almost 6 months than under the last one for almost a decade.

Uncus1 wrote:They also want to be the only nation woth WMDs how else would they terrorise the world therefor they're terrified of iran who hasnt done anything to them

Frankly I really don't even want us to have them. Many of us think that some of the reaction has been overreaction about iran. I have no problem with them having nuclear power. Hell I think we need more nuclear power plants. Weapons not so much.

Uncus1 wrote:Went into iraq just to feed their leader's ego lol who's a jackass anywayz even by their standards

Our govt put saddam in so it was kind of our responsibility to take him out. Though yes the puppet in chief did manage to make it so much worse than it should have been. Our govt is not innocent but often our leadership is not all that representative of us just like any other country as we are really no better.

Uncus1 wrote:Its ok for israel to own nuclear weps hmm ...

Only if you are a corporatist or a zionist.

Uncus1 wrote:The iraqis had the best scientific programs in the region and were at least alive and fed during saddam , now no houses , occupied , internal wars and no leader .... Except their stupid guy who's america's puppet

Eh there was plenty of death and struggle under saddam. I will agree that things were more stable. But it was still a powder keg of our own design.

Uncus1 wrote:Ok so enoug cons lets start some pros

Obama , oh wait he just took the noble prize for nothing lol or rather intentions lol

That and he shifted the govts attitude almost 180 degrees away from bush's moronic cowboy diplomacy. US policy has opened up to talks and diplomacy and nearly 100% less saber rattling. People give him to littl credit. Sure he did not bail on iraq and afganistan. That would be a mistake. We need to reduce our presence there as soon as we can and that is what he is doing. We bailed on afganistan once already and it was a big mistake. Obama is taking a bad situation and making the best of it. Realistically the man has done superb. He still has problems but take him over bush? Any day.

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