How the hell do you log on?

[hsihthuwko22]

And in WOW they actualy give you an approx wait time and position in queue.

sro won't give you that coz there is no queue with it. I might have missed something about it but I have yet to see a proof that it has queue system. It seems nothing more than some cheap auto enter pressing program for every 15-20 sec, to me.

It is easy to see its a queue system. Just login and get a friend to login on the same login server right after you. You will see you will get access right before him.

The only thing I dont get is how the 4 (or 5) login servers acts together? Are they independant? Like 4 sepearate queues? 1 from each queue get access one by one? Would explain why some login servers takes much longer to login.

Easy to see isn't a proof and the thing you said didn't work. I tried to log on my main and staller to find some stuff that I need on both my desktop and laptop sometimes. It didn't work like what you said. It was just so random.

If it is a queue system, why do you still get, server full, please try later or whatever that msg say every 15 or 20 sec just like when you press enter key in old system? Why not just say, you are in queue, please wait or something like that? unless it changed in the last week when I haven't tried to log on yet.

To me, they just made it their own auto enter pressing system with the client to prevent from raping their log on servers and wasting bandwidths just for receiving and sending log in data in every 3 sec like before.

Sbot going to clientless system where most botters could bot 30 clients with 2 accounts, auto code typing systems coming out back in early 100 cap days etc MIGHT have make them do this as servers were crashing like heck and before those, you always got lag and frozen. I would think it showed their networking system couldn't handle it at all.

[CrimsonNuker]

If it is a queue system, why do you still get, server full, please try later or whatever that msg say every 15 or 20 sec just like when you press enter key in old system? Why not just say, you are in queue, please wait or something like that? unless it changed in the last week when I haven't tried to log on yet.

Cause Joymax doesn't care.

[PR0METHEUS]

But they dont, cause botters is what brings in the money.

Consipracy theories FTW? Perhaps botters buy the most silk, just because of the sheer number of bots vs legits, but silk isn't Joymax's only source of money. Licensing the server to other companies, advertising, who knows what else.

so you think the gold bot companies just release their gold bot software for everyone to "study?" i doubt that.

Well I meant Joymax downloading/studying the free bot clients that other players use. If it's available to you and I, it's available to Joymax. Even without downloading it, they can study the actions of the gold bots. When they notice that the route checkpoints out of town change (to try and avoid the auto-ban scripts, Joymax can update their scripts with the new coordinates. That approach shouldn't be that hard, even without access to the bot software.

No matter what, it's a bit of an uphill battle. Things can be done to lessen the steep curve of that hill though.

[CrimsonNuker]

But they dont, cause botters is what brings in the money.

Consipracy theories FTW? Perhaps botters buy the most silk, just because of the sheer number of bots vs legits, but silk isn't Joymax's only source of money. Licensing the server to other companies, advertising, who knows what else.

As true as that may be, customers (the players) are most likely their main source of profit.

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But they dont, cause botters is what brings in the money.

Consipracy theories FTW? Perhaps botters buy the most silk, just because of the sheer number of bots vs legits, but silk isn't Joymax's only source of money. Licensing the server to other companies, advertising, who knows what else.

As true as that may be, customers (the players) are most likely their main source of profit.

They don't make shit from advertising anyways, one because they can't attract new players if the new player cant login. Like you said, the players are the main source of profit.

[CrimsonNuker]

When I say 'main' I mean 98%

[Achilles990]

Ok, well now the server is low population so log on now before all the bots awake!

[CrimsonNuker]

Ok, well now the server is low population so log on now before all the bots awake!

Why do they need to be awake to play? Thats what bots are for amirite?

[Achilles990]

Ok, well now the server is low population so log on now before all the bots awake!

Why do they need to be awake to play? Thats what bots are for amirite?

I call it figure of speech meaing that some havent updated there sro or bot dont work so before they awake( get on servers ) you need to get on the server before they do!