Regarding "Innocent" people bans

[fckerr]

If u used No-DC client and no silk in acc u will be banned... If u have silk the chanse is smaller but there is a chanse ... Dont use No-DC...

[alZen]

What i noticed in that people who got banned is that: ...

i think you missed the ones that are glaringly the majority ... gold bots ... that are highly regarded as mainly clientless.

the rest of the ones that got banned are minority patterns that people are trying to make a trend out of. you've got botters, legits, stall holders, users of 3rd party or edited clients, silk buyers and non silk buyers that get banned and >1year old inactive accounts that are still alive etc ...

these minority ban patterns serve to confuse, and this appear to many as "random errors" or banning without a certain conclusive pattern (because there are more around that are not banned). if JM has an effective way of detecting any one of the other violations (other than clientless), then the scale of banning is going to be larger. and of course expect the scale of banning silk buying violaters to be smaller compared to the non buying ones, since they dont need to ban all their customers to prove a point, they only need to ban a significant number (more than what we see now) to remind botters that they can get banned whether silk or not.

so, looks like it is a given that joymax have a neat way of detecting clientless gold bots that are forming the bulk of the ban lists. the rest of the bans could be done manually by GMs doing their rounds or studying the server side data (eg. history of gold transaction; ie. bad data analysis leads to wrong conclusion and wrongful bans).

for me, it looks like the banning so far is either
#1 clientless (using some system tools),
#2 GM walkabouts (manually logging into the game to do their rounds, which explains the lack of player botters getting banned supposing they spend only little time doing their rounds in each server), or
#3 mistakes (bad data analysis).

[tedtwilliger]

What im trying to say is that you cant actually know if people are telling the truth or not.

i know right now of 6 people that didnt got any of them, never botted, never used no DC clean all the way to lvl 50-80 but suddenly got banned

Going by your logic how do you know they are really legit? You don't know if they are telling the truth or not

With all cynical attitudes aside, why would anyone get banned for getting powerleveled? Its a part of the game joymax introduced, why ban people for it? Whats next, banning people for using the party system at all? Banning people for buying pots?

My best reasoning is that joymax could track peoples ip addresses on forums, find out which people are using pk2 edits / 3rd party software blah blah, track that ip back to any accounts made by that ip and ban it. Yet that too seems a little far fetched for my liking.

Maybe these people have followed a gold bots "waypoints" and been banned for being confused as a goldbot? Again seems a little far fetched but i still wouldn't be surprised.

Either way, who cares? It doesn't matter why these people were banned, they are still banned either way. Knowing the reason why isn't relevant. If you know you are legit and yet you get banned, take comfort in the fact that it was a mistake. Simple.

[ScreaMz]

gg. yes

[CHIPS]

I created a character about 2 weeks ago which I made to level with my friend for FUN. I did not use the character to stall, did not bot or use third-party programs (I'm on a Mac so that's out of the question anyway), was never inactive and I didn't even PK2 edit for that matter. It was just a character I made for the sole purpose of party grinding with my friends a few hours a day. The only thing I'm guilty of is not buying silk. And if that's Joymax's reason for banning my character then I'm not sure I'd like to continue playing this game.

Maybe the secretly made some sort of "trial" for the game. If you don't buy silk after the trial is over you get banned, lol. o,O

They won't intentionally ban players who are legit but don't buy silk. That will defeat the whole purpose of making this game F2P. The purpose was to allow players who cannot effort to pay for this game to play with the player who can. This leads to more utility to the players who brought silk, and hence maintain that user base.

It might happened accidentally tho. After banning the old goldbots, many of them are making new characters. That is y Joymax is paying close attention to the new accounts, since many of them will become future gold bots. Most of them will get plvled to maybe lvl 42 or so before they start botting again. So the focus right now is on brand new characters who are getting plvled. With this mistakes are bound to happen. If you are indeed totally legit and got banned, I would suggest that you email Jmax and see what they say about it.

[NuclearSilo]

It's strange that since 0x33 was fallen, JM began to rise up. Did JM recruit Drew_Benton to make a program to catch bot? o.O

[Barotix]

gg. yes

lol, you edited your post.

[F-22]

It's strange that since 0x33 was fallen, JM began to rise up. Did JM recruit Drew_Benton to make a program to catch bot? o.O

ahhahaha, drew is busy working on a bot for Aion. lol

[NuclearSilo]

It's strange that since 0x33 was fallen, JM began to rise up. Did JM recruit Drew_Benton to make a program to catch bot? o.O

ahhahaha, drew is busy working on a bot for Aion. lol

Who knows? Maybe they lied