is it wrong to be nice? To avalon

[Fury]

Just because they are your rivals, doesn't mean you must hate every individual in their union. I used to party and chat to rivals as well and found some nice people. Its completely normal and fine don't worry

[Kewtie]

Everyone needs a friend, maybe they will see that Legits are nice and being one is not so bad.

[WaX]

If u wanna chat to someone just do it, ther ur ''enemy'' -.-, it's a game at the end of the day. Botters dont have some sort of disease tht u get if u talk to thm. ''betrayed ur guild'' cause u talked to the enemy/botter, laughable

[Niton]

i didnt ask for a spoon fed EVERYDAY, next time help me out when your guildmembers need em~

Ex, Guardia assist to pwlvl me when i DIDNT ASK TOO, you guys tell him to not.
Ex, I was so frustrating to lvl up to lvl 60 and i was asking if anyone wanna help some of the guild members in cave, and nobody answer.

Fly, i didnt ask for spoon fed. I was asking for help.

[Boogey]

not like anyone is forcing you to lvl up so fast otherwise they will take your life

[Berto]

Wow, big deal.

[nightbloom]

i didnt ask for a spoon fed EVERYDAY, next time help me out when your guildmembers need em~

Ex, Guardia assist to pwlvl me when i DIDNT ASK TOO, you guys tell him to not.
Ex, I was so frustrating to lvl up to lvl 60 and i was asking if anyone wanna help some of the guild members in cave, and nobody answer.

Fly, i didnt ask for spoon fed. I was asking for help.

I dont like PLing. I like to see my members take some initiative and have the drive and ability to level themselves. I need self starting, independant ppl who are strong not in char, but in themselves. Asking for PL makes me think of a child asking to be carried when he is fully capable of walking on his own.

I do not think PLing is wrong, or should be against the rules... Its just not the kind of player I want.

[Boogey]

And nightbloom is the right girlfriend i want

Players that makes no effort to lvl themself and needs to be power lvled all the time are just being plain lazy!! There used to be no p lvl shit before so dont take it for granted now

[Dian Jie]

I dont like PLing. I like to see my members take some initiative and have the drive and ability to level themselves. I need self starting, independant ppl who are strong not in char, but in themselves. Asking for PL makes me think of a child asking to be carried when he is fully capable of walking on his own.

I do not think PLing is wrong, or should be against the rules... Its just not the kind of player I want.

+10000000000000000000000000000000000

[LockStar.]

Man give me a break. All this drama and all this anti-bot and anti-powerlvling shit. Aren't you Avalonies sick of taking up forum space with your stupid drama.

[crunk]

i didnt ask for a spoon fed EVERYDAY, next time help me out when your guildmembers need em~

Ex, Guardia assist to pwlvl me when i DIDNT ASK TOO, you guys tell him to not.
Ex, I was so frustrating to lvl up to lvl 60 and i was asking if anyone wanna help some of the guild members in cave, and nobody answer.

Fly, i didnt ask for spoon fed. I was asking for help.

I dont like PLing. I like to see my members take some initiative and have the drive and ability to level themselves. I need self starting, independant ppl who are strong not in char, but in themselves. Asking for PL makes me think of a child asking to be carried when he is fully capable of walking on his own.

I do not think PLing is wrong, or should be against the rules... Its just not the kind of player I want.

calm down its just a game lol

[Necrobat]

Man give me a break. All this drama and all this anti-bot and anti-powerlvling shit. Aren't you Avalonies sick of taking up forum space with your stupid drama.

To be honest, I'm not sick of it at all. All we are pointing out is the flaws of the game and how we're combating them. Then we get people whining that "we knew that already" at us, and to be honest, we all get a damned good laugh from this. Saying legits can't stop bots? Weak morale, unite and stand strong. Saying plevelling is good? All you're doing is training an army of noobs who don't know how to fight.

So before you say we're making stupid drama, take a look at what you're doing, what your guild is doing, what your union is doing and how everything fits into your server. the bigger picture is what matters, and the bigger picture is what you're all missing.

[hootsh]

well i got kicked from Avalon anyway due to inactivity so i think it wouldnt matter now lol..have the tanker character though still in the union (midnight)

um, u never got kicked, but if ur so inactive that you think u got kicked before u even log into the game to check then you may be too inactive for avalon.

Euhmm i'm pretty sure last time i logged in i was kicked lol..last time i logged in i ddnt have a guild. O.o

nvm me anyways these days i cant trust myself to be pretty active..studying and stuff..also losing the sro spirit a bit so i'll try to chill out..if i ever get back active on the character though i'll see if u guys got a spot to get me back.

But i'm like 100% sure last time i logged in i was out of the guild (oh..the betrayal..feels like thousand knives in my back )

Lol you have fun guys.

[Necrobat]

well i got kicked from Avalon anyway due to inactivity so i think it wouldnt matter now lol..have the tanker character though still in the union (midnight)

um, u never got kicked, but if ur so inactive that you think u got kicked before u even log into the game to check then you may be too inactive for avalon.

Euhmm i'm pretty sure last time i logged in i was kicked lol..last time i logged in i ddnt have a guild. O.o

I think you should relog and double check.

[hootsh]

I think you should relog and double check.

Would take like 3 hours of my life that i would rather spend in something more productive..lol..anyways i edited my post with all the info.

(if you are right though then i gotta say i'm pretty much owned rofl )

If i only kept my mouth shut.

[Priam]

enemy? nice? betrayal?

real life?

[Guardia]

i didnt ask for a spoon fed EVERYDAY, next time help me out when your guildmembers need em~

Ex, Guardia assist to pwlvl me when i DIDNT ASK TOO, you guys tell him to not.
Ex, I was so frustrating to lvl up to lvl 60 and i was asking if anyone wanna help some of the guild members in cave, and nobody answer.

Fly, i didnt ask for spoon fed. I was asking for help.

Yo bro, nobody's telling me what to do. It's my own initiative depending on situations. If i dont even have time for my char, do u think i have time for others?

Ok, now listen. This is how i handle situations.

I'm a pure bard (only bard, no sub) until lvl 42 and i always grind in avalons pt without being in the guild. I have to prove myself worthy enough to be in the guild before when the server is just started. Asymura kept his dirty eyes on me everytime i'm slacking. Lolz.. and one day.. I got kicked by NB from the pt because they really need wizard for dmg. That's felt like a huge stone hitting my head and i realize i couldnt secure pt with just being a pure bard. That made me make wiz as sub to be able to solo when there;s no pt and to be more usefull / versatile in a pt. And then i got invited to avalon and still doing the same thing until today. Being a great bard and a secondary wiz when needed. Now i'm farming in a pt and solo.

This is how u should do. Take some action. Do something to improve ur gameplay, dont just sit and wait for ppl to help. It;s ur own character anyway. If u cannot do it fast, do it at ur own pace. Nobody is pressuring u to lvl up fast. Always set a greater target. For instance, lemon already farmed 200k sp. I'm only at 107K. 200K is my target and i will reach it in a pt or out solo. Get ur act together, stop blaming other ppl.

[RiceFarmer]

So before you say we're making stupid drama, take a look at what you're doing, what your guild is doing, what your union is doing and how everything fits into your server. the bigger picture is what matters, and the bigger picture is what you're all missing.

I'm probably guessing him, his guild and his union are having fun, that's what they're doing. Because that's what games are for.. "fun".

I'm only a noob with 30 odd post yeah.. but from what I've seen on this forum about you and your guild is that you think you're better then everyone else on this forum, you constantly judge people, and if you find out they bot, they're your sudden enemy.

I still wonder why you guys act like this, considering one of the main leaders of the guild got banned for botting himself.
but I guess you have your reasons so I should stay out of your business I guess

[GodsAngel]

So before you say we're making stupid drama, take a look at what you're doing, what your guild is doing, what your union is doing and how everything fits into your server. the bigger picture is what matters, and the bigger picture is what you're all missing.

I'm probably guessing him, his guild and his union are having fun, that's what they're doing. Because that's what games are for.. "fun".

I'm only a noob with 30 odd post yeah.. but from what I've seen on this forum about you and your guild is that you think you're better then everyone else on this forum, you constantly judge people, and if you find out they bot, they're your sudden enemy.

I still wonder why you guys act like this, considering one of the main leaders of the guild got banned for botting himself.
but I guess you have your reasons so I should stay out of your business I guess

You're misinformed, what occurs on this forum and what happens in-game are different. No we don't think we're better than the botters as people, we have better teamwork, that is true. Just because they bot doesn't make them our enemies but in a fortress war it's fun to label them as such.

Imagine going into a fortress war and all we do is stand around and say, "hi, would you like to come in the fortress? oh hoho, you're atking our towers how lovely, fck that."
It's fun to have some drama, and we do help our guild mates but we aren't on sro 24/7 and we party and level ourselves when we have time to play, if we don't have a party and are standing around doing nothing yea going to help the lower levels fill out their parties is not an issue, that is allowed.

and you and 9/10 of the srf sro f4g and g4y united community is misinformed of Fly's ban which was revoked then reinstated due to reasons other than botting, if any of you knew that the ban list is not only for botters but also for charge backers and etc... this wouldn't even be an issue but most of you take the word of idiots and the like and say oh that has to be the truth because he has 2500 omfg posts, sorry but then you're truly r-tarded.

this is getting off topic, so let me get back a little to the original post once again, PL is not a bad thing in my opinion. Venus is now an established server therefore getting parties before penons/caves is a tad difficult, if it were me I'd be out there leveling solo and if a higher level offered PL in union which we do every few hours, then I'd go but i wouldn't just sit on a horse, I'm a tank so I'd taunt mobs for him and actually do things, test out skills etc.

The reason nb and many others don't like PL is because it develops weak players who don't know how to play their characters and for those that do, it doesn't help them improve, a cleric can heal and buff and practice that, a wizard can add whatever little damage he/she can. Or they can get capes and pvp, but sitting on a horse tracing is not something that we should look upon and say ohoho that's a great fcking idea.

10k for anyone that actually reads this.

psst and stop changing every one of our f*cking topics to Fly and his ban or whatever idiot topics you guys can come up with, make your own thread then please, don't hijack our lovely little Avalon ones.

[Velocity]

So before you say we're making stupid drama, take a look at what you're doing, what your guild is doing, what your union is doing and how everything fits into your server. the bigger picture is what matters, and the bigger picture is what you're all missing.

I'm probably guessing him, his guild and his union are having fun, that's what they're doing. Because that's what games are for.. "fun".

I'm only a noob with 30 odd post yeah.. but from what I've seen on this forum about you and your guild is that you think you're better then everyone else on this forum, you constantly judge people, and if you find out they bot, they're your sudden enemy.

I still wonder why you guys act like this, considering one of the main leaders of the guild got banned for botting himself.
but I guess you have your reasons so I should stay out of your business I guess

You're misinformed, what occurs on this forum and what happens in-game are different. No we don't think we're better than the botters as people, we have better teamwork, that is true. Just because they bot doesn't make them our enemies but in a fortress war it's fun to label them as such.

Imagine going into a fortress war and all we do is stand around and say, "hi, would you like to come in the fortress? oh hoho, you're atking our towers how lovely, fck that."
It's fun to have some drama, and we do help our guild mates but we aren't on sro 24/7 and we party and level ourselves when we have time to play, if we don't have a party and are standing around doing nothing yea going to help the lower levels fill out their parties is not an issue, that is allowed.

and you and 9/10 of the srf sro f4g and g4y united community is misinformed of Fly's ban which was revoked then reinstated due to reasons other than botting, if any of you knew that the ban list is not only for botters but also for charge backers and etc... this wouldn't even be an issue but most of you take the word of idiots and the like and say oh that has to be the truth because he has 2500 omfg posts, sorry but then you're truly r-tarded.

this is getting off topic, so let me get back a little to the original post once again, PL is not a bad thing in my opinion. Venus is now an established server therefore getting parties before penons/caves is a tad difficult, if it were me I'd be out there leveling solo and if a higher level offered PL in union which we do every few hours, then I'd go but i wouldn't just sit on a horse, I'm a tank so I'd taunt mobs for him and actually do things, test out skills etc.

The reason nb and many others don't like PL is because it develops weak players who don't know how to play their characters and for those that do, it doesn't help them improve, a cleric can heal and buff and practice that, a wizard can add whatever little damage he/she can. Or they can get capes and pvp, but sitting on a horse tracing is not something that we should look upon and say ohoho that's a great fcking idea.

10k for anyone that actually reads this.

psst and stop changing every one of our f*cking topics to Fly and his ban or whatever idiot topics you guys can come up with, make your own thread then please, don't hijack our lovely little Avalon ones.

great post...10k pls.jkjk

[Pilot]

lol you shouldnt stress over it so much. Its not a problem.

[Berto]

Man give me a break. All this drama and all this anti-bot and anti-powerlvling shit. Aren't you Avalonies sick of taking up forum space with your stupid drama.

To be honest, I'm not sick of it at all. All we are pointing out is the flaws of the game and how we're combating them. Then we get people whining that "we knew that already" at us, and to be honest, we all get a damned good laugh from this. Saying legits can't stop bots? Weak morale, unite and stand strong. Saying plevelling is good? All you're doing is training an army of noobs who don't know how to fight.

So before you say we're making stupid drama, take a look at what you're doing, what your guild is doing, what your union is doing and how everything fits into your server. the bigger picture is what matters, and the bigger picture is what you're all missing.

I'm also getting quite tired of hearing all about Avalon every time I log into these forums. It's great about the things you do but it's annoying how you try to just rub it in on everyone else as if the world has to know. We've been through the same exact footsteps before in Odin. Talking about it is good until a certain extent, bragging about it takes it too far and makes everyone look childish. not directed at your post Necro just the general theme I see recurring every time I see someone mention Avalon.

[nightbloom]

Disagree with Fly? Bring up the ban... LOL Everyone who matters knows exactly what happened, anyone who doesnt know probably doesnt matter.

And its hardly our fault ya'll like to talk about us.

[non ego man]

I thought legits were supposed to be the "whiners"...

I thought legits were the ones with "no life"...

All this time and effort spent whining about Fly and Avalon?

May I remind all you complainers:

"It's just a game"

"Quit whining"

and my favorite:

"Get a life"

[Yakuza]

<< Edited, no bot accusations - MrBow >>

[Berto]

<< Edited, no bot accusations - MrBow >>

That's just ignorant, maybe you should learn the game before posting. Capping in 3months is not an impossible task when you have euro parties so accusing people of botting is not only permitted in this forum but also just plain reckless, specially out of all people to accuse Fly.

[Fly]

why oh why is this topic allowed to live! it makes me want to play sad music and cry... its sooo off topic. someone pls stab it till it dies a horrible death.

[oxee]

why oh why is this topic allowed to live! it makes me want to play sad music and cry... its sooo off topic. someone pls stab it till it dies a horrible death.

lol Fly.

Why doesnt everybody just stfu and get along huh, or is that to much to ask?

Regards

- Former TheEMPIRE member, jeeves

[Lixiae]

Disagree with Fly? Bring up the ban... LOL Everyone who matters knows exactly what happened, anyone who doesnt know probably doesnt matter.

And its hardly our fault ya'll like to talk about us.

I don't think its that we like to talk about you, its that you are hard pressed to find a thread these days that isn't being tarded up by one of your members.

[Niton]

why cant i get any help from you guys just spending 30 minutes tanking 300pt mobs, and some wizzy to kill it, there is no decent party that is around thou, im not lazy, but there is just no party.