PURE STR. BOW VS PURE STR. GLAIVER

___ONLY___ · Post by **___ONLY___** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:19 pm

Faiien wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNQRIPiwZlc
i think you meant to post this video

if that noob glavier used SSS after his SSE with stun and then mars that bower guy would have been dead

XMoshe · Post by **XMoshe** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:54 pm

soulreapr wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
soulreapr wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
reyboy wrote:
Dashboard wrote:http://youtube.com/watch?v=564gTpQ-DpE&feature=related

Sosun bow verse Sosun glavie lol

and what about there gear, ha ???

Liquid got a dmg in the highest dmg contest and thats pretty high..so he has atleast good pimped gears dunno bout the glaivier tho

I personally know liquid (hacked now) he had sun bow +7, sun legs, head, shoulders, and feet, all +5+6 and with items like that you are going to win regardless of who you are fighting.

what about a full sunner (gear/wep/acc)

i missed what your asking, him against a full sunner? in that case it was even, he would die, they would die, just came down to luck.

LS didnt have everything sun, what if he fought against some with everything sun =p I was just a bit kidding lol

Naigasakis_Rebirth · Post by **Naigasakis_Rebirth** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:59 pm

Sun Sun Sun Sun all I hear in these topics now days. I will just sit and wait till the 90 cap to comment. The glory is so close.

UniqueSpawn · Post by **UniqueSpawn** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:09 pm

wat is sss/sse??

Ningyotsukai-san · Post by **Ningyotsukai-san** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:27 pm

UniqueSpawn wrote:wat is sss/sse??

Soul spear soul and soul spear emperor

the_wicked · Post by **the_wicked** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:43 pm

MrFudge wrote:archers destroy glaivers.

i like this LS vid
http://youtube.com/watch?v=T9_MZ_WKk_E

hes pretty gay, and he does have a sun bow, but its still impressive seeing someone take down a pure str glaive in snow shield.
[5:35 - 6:53]

i quote off the video

"i have waaay to many clients running"

Vindicator · Post by **Vindicator** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:30 pm

glaivers > bowers imo, or at least on alps. Since LS got hacked, there isnt a single DECENT bower. Not even bowers with sosuns can kill people on alps, its quite sad really. My glaiver, with no suns, can kill every bower on alps, and im sure that almost every other lvl 80 can.

Allig2948 · Post by **Allig2948** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:04 pm

I'm 76 and porned four level 80 on this character. Two if them attacking me at once. One a pure int and the other a Pure Str Bower. Both in Armor. And recently (today) I owned a fully farmed pure str lvl 80 glavier. Took me awhile but still killed him. OG_DeX was there. He'll tell ya'. It's all on how you play and how your gear is. If you're stupid, you'd press any number key and will die.

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:06 pm

There are loads of good bowers on Xian and tons of bad glaviers.

Just the point of view from a person I think. I see it from a bowers point of view, and I agree there are many bad bowers out there. But there also are bowers out there that now how to play there char.

Right now I have trouble killing glaviers. But when I had my skills at 74 I was able to kill half of the level 80 glaviers I was fighting against.

jorgie · Post by **jorgie** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:51 am

say the bower and glavier have the exact same gear, both full str, both fully farmed...

Glavier will win, no doubt about it.

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:20 am

jorgie wrote:say the bower and glavier have the exact same gear, both full str, both fully farmed...

Glavier will win, no doubt about it.

nope.
sun bow > sun glaiver.

The Phenomenon Nay · Post by **The Phenomenon Nay** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:26 am

btw there are better archers in alps than liquid, he was good cuz he was a different build he was hybrid but still died with his suns, if 2 archers had same gears n one was hybrid other was pure str, hybrid will loose due to low hp and the full str will win cuz he'll crit more

glavier vs archer i would say glavier will win 80 cap since they the strongest, if they were both full farmed, but archer wouldnt be so easy to defeat, they hav like a 60-40 chance for glaviers to win archers

jorgie · Post by **jorgie** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:56 am

I own sun bowers with my 72+9. Bowers suck. No defensive skills except snow shield. They just run away alot..An interesting mastery for bowers to have is force though..i fought a force fire bower who was constantly putting me on decay and impotent and vital spot etc. Pretty good idea..Otherwise bowers SUCK try to prove me wrong

IguanaRampage · Post by **IguanaRampage** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:00 am

MrFudge wrote:
jorgie wrote:say the bower and glavier have the exact same gear, both full str, both fully farmed...

Glavier will win, no doubt about it.

nope.
sun bow > sun glaiver.

Nah. A lot of people seem to think that, but it's simply not consistently true. One of my friends even traded his sun glaive for sun bow and restatted. Bows will be a lot better at 90 cap, but for now, with no defensive skills, once they're KD'd or stunned they can say good night for the most part. I still like bows though. They're just not better than glaivers right now I think.

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:04 am

IguanaRampage wrote:
MrFudge wrote:
jorgie wrote:say the bower and glavier have the exact same gear, both full str, both fully farmed...

Glavier will win, no doubt about it.

nope.
sun bow > sun glaiver.

Nah. A lot of people seem to think that, but it's simply not consistently true. One of my friends even traded his sun glaive for sun bow and restatted. Bows will be a lot better at 90 cap, but for now, with no defensive skills, once they're KD'd or stunned they can say good night for the most part. I still like bows though. They're just not better than glaivers right now I think.

they have a KB which will hit 500% of the time and stun -_-, no deffence skills?

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:36 am

I don't get it, now youre telling me I am dying a lot pvping against glaviers?

Meh.

BaronSengir · Post by **BaronSengir** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:11 am

rofl @ ppl saying bowers get a lot better at 90 cap

you might want to go check out ksro csro bowers cant kill shit i am not taking sides but glaive > bows

ps i am not even a glaive

IguanaRampage · Post by **IguanaRampage** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:47 am

Doctor_MOS wrote:
IguanaRampage wrote:
MrFudge wrote:
jorgie wrote:say the bower and glavier have the exact same gear, both full str, both fully farmed...

Glavier will win, no doubt about it.

nope.
sun bow > sun glaiver.

Nah. A lot of people seem to think that, but it's simply not consistently true. One of my friends even traded his sun glaive for sun bow and restatted. Bows will be a lot better at 90 cap, but for now, with no defensive skills, once they're KD'd or stunned they can say good night for the most part. I still like bows though. They're just not better than glaivers right now I think.
they have a KB which will hit 500% of the time and stun -_-, no deffence skills?

KB hits...500% of time? o_O what does that mean?
Bow is a good build no doubt. But I really don't think you can say bow > glaiver without taking luck, skills, and other gears into account. I've seen too many bows killed.

pinoyplaya · Post by **pinoyplaya** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:13 am

Here's a better video.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AE4VeBCvgcQ

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:31 pm

pinoyplaya wrote:Here's a better video.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AE4VeBCvgcQ

pff, that's a video taken before the skills update come. And one has sun bow, other has only glaive 72+7.

Noob glaiver always uses soul spear 2nd book lvl 56 which is not strong at all imo.

Remember crit is base on luck. But luck for a bowman is 3 times higher than luck for a glaiver.

vanom · Post by **vanom** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:55 pm

well, i have to revise my point of view a little bit. the two bows i fought had premin ticket (5% incr. phys. damage and damage absorption), while i had not premium. im gonna try that, when i bought premium

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:56 pm

no defensive skills?

uhh yeah, 80% knockback basically with those 5 arrows.
and strongbow stun.

noob glaivers soul spear over and over and over til crit, bowmen get crits 3 times more often.

i can't really talk though, im force bow. No one's beaten me yet on this char...though its only 64 lol, ill get beaten by 69's unless theyre bladers [they end up giving up].

bitch whine about snow shield, bad int's cant kill with it on, when a force bow puts it on and casts the vital spots on you, gg.

BaronSengir · Post by **BaronSengir** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:47 pm

i want to know what version sro are you playing with 80% knockback for arrow combo?

the one i play is only 30%

XMoshe · Post by **XMoshe** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:47 pm

BaronSengir wrote:i want to know what version sro are you playing with 80% knockback for arrow combo?

the one i play is only 30%

30% chance of kb every hit...5 hits...

so that pretty close to 80% I guess...(with kb atleast once in the 5 arrows)

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:26 pm

XMoshe wrote:
BaronSengir wrote:i want to know what version sro are you playing with 80% knockback for arrow combo?

the one i play is only 30%

30% chance of kb every hit...5 hits...

so that pretty close to 80% I guess...(with kb atleast once in the 5 arrows)

mm, if i remember well, the KB probability is the following: 20/60/40/30/0

BaronSengir · Post by **BaronSengir** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:06 am

hmm i didnt know that i thought it was all 30% each arrow

Ichimaru420 · Post by **Ichimaru420** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:22 am

I personally think a Glaiver would win but I like Archers more since they have more variety of skills to use Glaivers only have like 3-4 good skill trees.

XMoshe · Post by **XMoshe** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:46 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
BaronSengir wrote:i want to know what version sro are you playing with 80% knockback for arrow combo?

the one i play is only 30%

30% chance of kb every hit...5 hits...

so that pretty close to 80% I guess...(with kb atleast once in the 5 arrows)

mm, if i remember well, the KB probability is the following: 20/60/40/30/0

where did you get that from O_o and could be true...afaik Ive never been kbed on the last hit :o

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:56 pm

XMoshe wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
BaronSengir wrote:i want to know what version sro are you playing with 80% knockback for arrow combo?

the one i play is only 30%

30% chance of kb every hit...5 hits...

so that pretty close to 80% I guess...(with kb atleast once in the 5 arrows)

mm, if i remember well, the KB probability is the following: 20/60/40/30/0

where did you get that from O_o and could be true...afaik Ive never been kbed on the last hit :o

Konpaku site, but they removed it long time ago

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:56 pm

XMoshe wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
BaronSengir wrote:i want to know what version sro are you playing with 80% knockback for arrow combo?

the one i play is only 30%

30% chance of kb every hit...5 hits...

so that pretty close to 80% I guess...(with kb atleast once in the 5 arrows)

mm, if i remember well, the KB probability is the following: 20/60/40/30/0

where did you get that from O_o and could be true...afaik Ive never been kbed on the last hit :o

konpaku Brasilian guild, the ones that supplied lvl 100 skills for us for a day, found out those stats somehow.

anyway, that arrow combo knocks back wayy more than it should. It's almost unfair, at least the damage is so low it lets the person getting knocked back repot.

bowmen should spam that til they hit the 12-15k strongbow crit :wink:

, depending wether you've got a +5 or sun bow that shit still hurts.

I've seen Liquid almsot 1hit a s/s int in 40% snow shield with prots on.
8.5k dmg with a craft crit is pretty insane. fuckin sun bows...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A3E_pDW5m0

she would've needed ironwall shield along with that snow shield and shield just go survive those 2 hits lol.