Robe vs. Heavy armor

[Naigasakis_Rebirth]

meh for me its all about the looks not being the best hehe HEAVY ARMOUR FTW
wudnt want my 2 hander looking like a mushroom, even if it meant hed pawn more xD
bah maddening crit finishes any int anyway so who needs robes anyway
seen 74 2 handers dish 12+k crits to 80s
remember that Vapore? lol U still pawned him anyway haha

ROFL ur maddening will crit I will still be standing and I will punish you -.-

[John_Doe]

meh for me its all about the looks not being the best hehe HEAVY ARMOUR FTW
wudnt want my 2 hander looking like a mushroom, even if it meant hed pawn more xD
bah maddening crit finishes any int anyway so who needs robes anyway
seen 74 2 handers dish 12+k crits to 80s
remember that Vapore? lol U still pawned him anyway haha

I find 2h sword builds quite funny though, since you may consider a 12k crit pretty big, but its slow and cumbersome, I would agree that Dare Devil pretty much speaks for itself that it is deadly, if you manage to land the 2 hits, but if you know how to use a 1h sword to its fullest, then your cunning stab will outdamage maddening and possibly even daredevil, with the added advantage of your defense and quick attacks, heck I've done stabs damage in 4 hits of 4k > 2k > 2k > 4k, not only is that 12k non crit, but you have a great chance to crit too. So this is why I find 2h sword builds a tad underwhelming.

As with maddening and DD your 4k > 2k > 2k > 4k will only be effective if you are not fliped nor stuned or other side effect during that time. So thus, I mean to say it is equal balance, that is why 2hs don't hit as fast as 1hs nor do 1hs hit as much ass 2hs in 1 hit. Ontopic: I like robe its looks nice on me and with clerics (walking autopot) and the def and mag screens I can live without not having 40-100 extra phy def points.

[Drukz]

Yea u might say 1H for 2H, but hear. bigger hits bigger crits.. even though u hit four times, chinese is better to heal of combos, than 1 or 2 hit, because if you make lets say 8k crit, and then rest, they will heal, but u cant heal if you get a crit and 18k and a hit just right after

i will consider robe, but im almost 80 now, and when i hit 80 i will farm, so i have a time consider it.. thx all

[VforVendetta]

Yea u might say 1H for 2H, but hear. bigger hits bigger crits.. even though u hit four times, chinese is better to heal of combos, than 1 or 2 hit, because if you make lets say 8k crit, and then rest, they will heal, but u cant heal if you get a crit and 18k and a hit just right after

i will consider robe, but im almost 80 now, and when i hit 80 i will farm, so i have a time consider it.. thx all

With the insane crit parry that a 1H sword can have 134 I believe, last thing he will have to worry about is being critted, on the other hand, if some of the hits crit from cunning stab its definetly no joke, 8k > 4k > 4k > 8k... Daring berserker are 4 hits, all strong, no weaker hits, ranging from 1.9k > 2.2k > 2.7k > 3.5k + anything after these 2 moves is overkill, with the 1H swords great defense, and more than medium offense, I can ask you, why is 2H swords even considered, with a pot delay you need all the defense you can get.

[bakafish]

Depends what your defense are at the moment, mine are.


Whats yours?

If you would minus 92 phy def from your 1h passive... and probably another 120 from your shield, you would find it would be very low with robes.

[Drukz]

Yea u might say 1H for 2H, but hear. bigger hits bigger crits.. even though u hit four times, chinese is better to heal of combos, than 1 or 2 hit, because if you make lets say 8k crit, and then rest, they will heal, but u cant heal if you get a crit and 18k and a hit just right after

i will consider robe, but im almost 80 now, and when i hit 80 i will farm, so i have a time consider it.. thx all

With the insane crit parry that a 1H sword can have 134 I believe, last thing he will have to worry about is being critted, on the other hand, if some of the hits crit from cunning stab its definetly no joke, 8k > 4k > 4k > 8k... Daring berserker are 4 hits, all strong, no weaker hits, ranging from 1.9k > 2.2k > 2.7k > 3.5k + anything after these 2 moves is overkill, with the 1H swords great defense, and more than medium offense, I can ask you, why is 2H swords even considered, with a pot delay you need all the defense you can get.

Why its considered? =) you should see me fight i could take down full str glavie farmed to 80 at lvl 76.. Sprint assault chance of knock back + stun, turn rising knock down (attacking while down 50% increase), maddening knock back. yea thats why its considered.. im now 79 i even take down bladers.. and nukers are no problem for me, if have no snow shield its 1 or 2 hits, and since my skills are 72, it will only get better when im 80, and it will be easyere to take down ppl with snow shield

[Drukz]

And you physical defence is only 90 over mine even though u have shield + more str than me on my set..

[torinchibi]

Yea u might say 1H for 2H, but hear. bigger hits bigger crits.. even though u hit four times, chinese is better to heal of combos, than 1 or 2 hit, because if you make lets say 8k crit, and then rest, they will heal, but u cant heal if you get a crit and 18k and a hit just right after

i will consider robe, but im almost 80 now, and when i hit 80 i will farm, so i have a time consider it.. thx all

With the insane crit parry that a 1H sword can have 134 I believe, last thing he will have to worry about is being critted, on the other hand, if some of the hits crit from cunning stab its definetly no joke, 8k > 4k > 4k > 8k... Daring berserker are 4 hits, all strong, no weaker hits, ranging from 1.9k > 2.2k > 2.7k > 3.5k + anything after these 2 moves is overkill, with the 1H swords great defense, and more than medium offense, I can ask you, why is 2H swords even considered, with a pot delay you need all the defense you can get.

Simple. Let's exclude warlock sub first. Now go kill a chinese in 45 sec. With 2h, you get even more p.atk from the buff, more crit from the passive, and you only lose the defense of a shield...which could be made up if a 1h warrior wears robes and the 2h wears armor.

All the ints die in 1 maddening and since nukes take long, there is a really good chance you win before they fire a 2nd nuke.

Having the ability to kill within the 45 sec of skins is what makes 2h better at PvP. And frankly, if you were using a warlock sub, you would win in 2 hits with a 2h...might even be a 1h crit win.

Let's not forget about the knock down too. The KB might help you bit KD is much better since it also increases the dmg done by 50% (on some skills).


In the end...who really cares if you got 1h or 2h, all it takes is like 50k sp to get the other moves, and you can make yourself a +5 pretty cheap.

[Drukz]

Yea u might say 1H for 2H, but hear. bigger hits bigger crits.. even though u hit four times, chinese is better to heal of combos, than 1 or 2 hit, because if you make lets say 8k crit, and then rest, they will heal, but u cant heal if you get a crit and 18k and a hit just right after

i will consider robe, but im almost 80 now, and when i hit 80 i will farm, so i have a time consider it.. thx all

With the insane crit parry that a 1H sword can have 134 I believe, last thing he will have to worry about is being critted, on the other hand, if some of the hits crit from cunning stab its definetly no joke, 8k > 4k > 4k > 8k... Daring berserker are 4 hits, all strong, no weaker hits, ranging from 1.9k > 2.2k > 2.7k > 3.5k + anything after these 2 moves is overkill, with the 1H swords great defense, and more than medium offense, I can ask you, why is 2H swords even considered, with a pot delay you need all the defense you can get.

Simple. Let's exclude warlock sub first. Now go kill a chinese in 45 sec. With 2h, you get even more p.atk from the buff, more crit from the passive, and you only lose the defense of a shield...which could be made up if a 1h warrior wears robes and the 2h wears armor.

All the ints die in 1 maddening and since nukes take long, there is a really good chance you win before they fire a 2nd nuke.

Having the ability to kill within the 45 sec of skins is what makes 2h better at PvP. And frankly, if you were using a warlock sub, you would win in 2 hits with a 2h...might even be a 1h crit win.

Let's not forget about the knock down too. The KB might help you bit KD is much better since it also increases the dmg done by 50% (on some skills).


In the end...who really cares if you got 1h or 2h, all it takes is like 50k sp to get the other moves, and you can make yourself a +5 pretty cheap.

True, im not saying 1H is weak.. but this was a question about equipment so lets end it here ty all

[VforVendetta]

Yea u might say 1H for 2H, but hear. bigger hits bigger crits.. even though u hit four times, chinese is better to heal of combos, than 1 or 2 hit, because if you make lets say 8k crit, and then rest, they will heal, but u cant heal if you get a crit and 18k and a hit just right after

i will consider robe, but im almost 80 now, and when i hit 80 i will farm, so i have a time consider it.. thx all

With the insane crit parry that a 1H sword can have 134 I believe, last thing he will have to worry about is being critted, on the other hand, if some of the hits crit from cunning stab its definetly no joke, 8k > 4k > 4k > 8k... Daring berserker are 4 hits, all strong, no weaker hits, ranging from 1.9k > 2.2k > 2.7k > 3.5k + anything after these 2 moves is overkill, with the 1H swords great defense, and more than medium offense, I can ask you, why is 2H swords even considered, with a pot delay you need all the defense you can get.

Simple. Let's exclude warlock sub first. Now go kill a chinese in 45 sec. With 2h, you get even more p.atk from the buff, more crit from the passive, and you only lose the defense of a shield...which could be made up if a 1h warrior wears robes and the 2h wears armor.

All the ints die in 1 maddening and since nukes take long, there is a really good chance you win before they fire a 2nd nuke.

Having the ability to kill within the 45 sec of skins is what makes 2h better at PvP. And frankly, if you were using a warlock sub, you would win in 2 hits with a 2h...might even be a 1h crit win.

Let's not forget about the knock down too. The KB might help you bit KD is much better since it also increases the dmg done by 50% (on some skills).


In the end...who really cares if you got 1h or 2h, all it takes is like 50k sp to get the other moves, and you can make yourself a +5 pretty cheap.

The damage I stated is without any Warlock debuffs or what have you, this is just a simple shield crush dull status, plus the stabs... Now since you brought it up, with warlock I would be stabbing some for 5.5k > 3.5k > 3.5k > 6k... not to mention the rest of the debuffs which make someone completely unable to fight or cant use pots. Sure the 2H sword has a great 1 hit attack I'll give it that much hell I even have skilled my Dare Devil just for it, but other than that I dunno what other benefites.

[Ell]

with a pot delay you need all the defense you can get.

I would have to say the opposite I would rather be able to kill within my limited time of survival because of pot delay rather than just prolong it.

[StacE]

As a 2h sword, how do you expect to beat a Sun S/S Nuker with 40-50% snow shield dealing 15k+ nukes. 1 KD + Stabs and a 2h in Armor would be so close to dead.... You'd wanna hope your first hit KD's them first or is a ridiculously high crit.

That's a hypothetical question for ya...

1000 Mag Defence isn't enough imho.

[Drukz]

As a 2h sword, how do you expect to beat a Sun S/S Nuker with 40-50% snow shield dealing 15k+ nukes. 1 KD + Stabs and a 2h in Armor would be so close to dead.... You'd wanna hope your first hit KD's them first or is a ridiculously high crit.

That's a hypothetical question for ya...

1000 Mag Defence isn't enough imho.

Could be, but ima not drop 2 handed, because i know the fact i can die to a S/S with sun..

as i said before this was about EQUIPMENT not what type of weapon u use, thanks for all advice..

[CHIPS]

Go robe, and take turn using Iron Skin, Mana Skin and Bless Spell.

The Cleric light armor passives only work if you are holding a cleric rod. So they will be useless for you.

[StacE]

As a 2h sword, how do you expect to beat a Sun S/S Nuker with 40-50% snow shield dealing 15k+ nukes. 1 KD + Stabs and a 2h in Armor would be so close to dead.... You'd wanna hope your first hit KD's them first or is a ridiculously high crit.

That's a hypothetical question for ya...

1000 Mag Defence isn't enough imho.

Could be, but ima not drop 2 handed, because i know the fact i can die to a S/S with sun..

as i said before this was about EQUIPMENT not what type of weapon u use, thanks for all advice..

I wasn't aruging for which type.. I meant that imo Garment is better because of the magical def. I guess you're gonna' need a set of both or something if you want to take both chinese classes down.

Robe is just more balanced and i see that as important seeing as there is not a dominating number of either build in the game. (There are roughly even numbers of nukers + strength players).

[IceCrash]

V's telling too many SeCrEtS xD
Anyways, i vote for robes if you can, but i am myself gonna wear light armor
Anyways, for everyone that said 1h swords cant rlly kill (thats what it seemed to me, notice i did a quick read on the thread so srry if no one said this) , lol you seriously gotta think about it.
Now, another advice i got is dont go 1h please because of the weather , it makes ur equipments wet and it makes u dirty with all the dirty on dw and takla and shit so just go 2h or others or chinese but not 1h kk?
Srry, i just dont like there are a lot of ppl with same build as me

[John_Doe]

Yea u might say 1H for 2H, but hear. bigger hits bigger crits.. even though u hit four times, chinese is better to heal of combos, than 1 or 2 hit, because if you make lets say 8k crit, and then rest, they will heal, but u cant heal if you get a crit and 18k and a hit just right after

i will consider robe, but im almost 80 now, and when i hit 80 i will farm, so i have a time consider it.. thx all

With the insane crit parry that a 1H sword can have 134 I believe, last thing he will have to worry about is being critted, on the other hand, if some of the hits crit from cunning stab its definetly no joke, 8k > 4k > 4k > 8k... Daring berserker are 4 hits, all strong, no weaker hits, ranging from 1.9k > 2.2k > 2.7k > 3.5k + anything after these 2 moves is overkill, with the 1H swords great defense, and more than medium offense, I can ask you, why is 2H swords even considered, with a pot delay you need all the defense you can get.

Like I said that is only effective if your chain of atks is not interrupted by anything and nor is your next chain of atk interrupted even if your chain of atk is not interrupted you must follow up with another chain to kill the oppenent and without that chain of atk your oppenent will most absoluty pot up his hp. So to say a 1hs chains are only effective if they are not interrupted and A 2hs atks are only effective if they land.