I quit, if this is not fixed.

Gavin · Post by **Gavin** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:44 pm

"Joymax fcked up my skills... now I can't pwn noobs in pvp, I QUIT THIS GAME!"

Like what a few people say in this topic... You should've never been an archer if you rely too much on those skills.

Killlage · Post by **Killlage** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:53 pm

Hmm it might be a bug or they might of just changed it, but I mean if they did want to change the skill then they would of told us before. Soo atm I am guessing its a bug but I am not sure.

Guess we will have to wait and see.

ranger4life · Post by **ranger4life** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:00 pm

tbh. no one here cares...go to site =P

Sylhana · Post by **Sylhana** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:04 pm

Adapt to change or wallow in your misery.

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:20 pm

Imagine you aren't 76+ anymore ;d.

vanom · Post by **vanom** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:23 pm

Killlage wrote:Hmm it might be a bug or they might of just changed it, but I mean if they did want to change the skill then they would of told us before. Soo atm I am guessing its a bug but I am not sure.

Guess we will have to wait and see.

why should they tell us? when they changed strongbow the 1st time (it launches faster), they did not tell us as well. so why should they now?

_Shinigami_ · Post by **_Shinigami_** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:31 pm

Good Bye.

Silver0 · Post by **Silver0** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:46 am

lvl 90 bowmen pwns
so regret/

killerkong · Post by **killerkong** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:06 am

well the world is full of change..here and in game. If you cant adapt to it..you will fail.

Dont fail because of change...win because you can adapt.

aghost153 · Post by **aghost153** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:16 am

lol........ this bring my 2 bio class, Natural selection ^^

killerkong · Post by **killerkong** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:18 am

aghost153 wrote:lol........ this bring my 2 bio class, Natural selection ^^

exactly

Survival of the fittest

Rakion · Post by **Rakion** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:58 am

bye fellow bower

Killlage · Post by **Killlage** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:27 am

vanom wrote:
Killlage wrote:Hmm it might be a bug or they might of just changed it, but I mean if they did want to change the skill then they would of told us before. Soo atm I am guessing its a bug but I am not sure.

Guess we will have to wait and see.

why should they tell us? when they changed strongbow the 1st time (it launches faster), they did not tell us as well. so why should they now?

Lol guess this is joymax's way off doing stuff cuz all the other types of games I played actually tell u the slightest thing they are going to change so ya though joymax would 2..

Dark Shifty · Post by **Dark Shifty** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:13 am

can't you just change up your combo? like instead of those two skills back to back, you use other skills instead of that. i don't know much about bow skills that much seeing as i have a glaiver... either do that or quit. THOSE ARE YOUR ONLY CHOICES!!!

alZen · Post by **alZen** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:20 am

imagine if swords n bladers cant do 2 knockdown skills and 2 stab skills consecutively due to cooldown of the whole skill tree.

imagine the same for spears n glaivers, cant do 2 ghost spear skills or 2 stun skills consecutively.

larvs · Post by **larvs** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:31 am

alZen wrote:imagine if swords n bladers cant do 2 knockdown skills and 2 stab skills consecutively due to cooldown of the whole skill tree.

imagine the same for spears n glaivers, cant do 2 ghost spear skills or 2 stun skills consecutively.

ok, i imagine, more team work when jobbing, less getting one shotted for ints, people would be actually forced to party up just to grind.

i think i like what i'm imagining. thanks for that thought.

JM please adjust more skills!

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:37 am

The "adapt" or "survival of the fittest" doesn't really apply here, unless you adapt yourself to getting a sun, otherwise a major part of the archer has just been nerfed. I'm not that strong, and i'm not capped or farmed, I haven't pvpd much but I did fight a warrior around my lvl, I think if I had my other Strong Bow I could of killed him, with the stun and couple crits I had, 1 more Strong Bow could of done it~ Possibly >.> lol.

Just have to wait, i'd say it s a bug, hopefully it goes back when the event ends, if not, i'm sure it will be a long wait, if it does get fixed.

Someone find out if its like that on ksro >.>?

jabbers · Post by **jabbers** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:20 am

why use the strong bow-vision at all, once you're farmed you can get autum wind-red, hits for the same or more damage and is faster, than devil arrow maxed is pretty nice too

penfold1992 · Post by **penfold1992** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:24 am

so.... you can post that ur bow skills aint working...
but you wont find a new tactic, or rebuild, or do anything
you just rant here...

then you dont complain about gold farmers, bots, ccf'ers ect...

hmm? why post the topic then

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:26 am

QQ moar pl0x?

DiabolicBow · Post by **DiabolicBow** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:32 am

Thats Not nice. ~Z It's not that I can't use other tactics. Sure I can. But this is the best and MOST affective I've come across yet. As a matter of fact, I've killed lvl 80's, me being lvl 75 witha 72 +5 bow. For those of you who know STR______ the sosun lvl 80 or good farmed bower, I've killed him before TWICE.

My BEST Tactic:

Strong Bow (2nd Book, didnt' ahve craft yet

), Antidevil, knockback, 1st Book Strong Bow, Antidevil, knockback, Devil Arrow, Anti Devil, knock back. Then Both Strong Bows and Anti devil for the kill, if not dead by now.

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:35 am

DiabolicBow wrote:It's not that I can't use other tactics. Sure I can. But this is the best and MOST affective I've come across yet. As a matter of fact, I've killed lvl 80's, me being lvl 75 witha 72 +5 bow. For those of you who know STR______ the sosun lvl 80 or good farmed bower, I've killed him before TWICE.

My BEST Tactic:

Strong Bow (2nd Book, didnt' ahve craft yet ), Antidevil, knockback, 1st Book Strong Bow, Antidevil, knockback, Devil Arrow, Anti Devil, knock back. Then Both Strong Bows and Anti devil for the kill, if not dead by now.

humk deal with it?

remind me of all the GW noob that were crying when they nerfed IWAY in tomb lmao. learn to adapt and change stuff, its a game cap will change skill will chnage if it doesnt keep moving the game die.

DiabolicBow · Post by **DiabolicBow** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:53 am

Fat_Smurf wrote:
DiabolicBow wrote: It's not that I can't use other tactics. Sure I can. But this is the best and MOST affective I've come across yet. As a matter of fact, I've killed lvl 80's, me being lvl 75 witha 72 +5 bow. For those of you who know STR______ the sosun lvl 80 or good farmed bower, I've killed him before TWICE.

My BEST Tactic:

Strong Bow (2nd Book, didnt' ahve craft yet ), Antidevil, knockback, 1st Book Strong Bow, Antidevil, knockback, Devil Arrow, Anti Devil, knock back. Then Both Strong Bows and Anti devil for the kill, if not dead by now.

humk deal with it?

remind me of all the GW noob that were crying when they nerfed IWAY in tomb lmao. learn to adapt and change stuff, its a game cap will change skill will chnage if it doesnt keep moving the game die.

Yea, kinda not 9D cap. So no NEW skills. JM just changed something wihtout warning and made it gay.

Zypher · Post by **Zypher** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:14 am

i was upset when i used to play that they did that with the devil arrow, but it seems like took it away and gave it to the strong bow users?

haha suckerssss

tomiotar · Post by **tomiotar** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:39 pm

Until july of this year we didnt have that choice and we was doing pvp without those skills. After skill update bow got the best new skills (strong bow+ arrow combo+new antidevil+mind series to help grinding), heuskal got emperor (and a effect on skill that they dont use frequently) and bicheon only got deadly status, but on skills that most of the people didnt farm and that can be pilled. Now they took us something they give us recently so I dont think is a reason to quit. That I would consider as unfair is if at 90 cap Joymax dont put similar cooldown restrictions on new gsm for heuskal or new stab for bicheon, because in that case only bow is restricted on their stronger skills.

MrBow · Post by **MrBow** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:39 pm

ok bye ;(

xMoDx · Post by **xMoDx** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:06 pm

DiabolicBow wrote:I start off with Strong Bow and guess what?!?! I can't spawn the second one!!!

same problem i hope joymax fix this, i cant simultaneously use 2 strongbow books

sama98b · Post by **sama98b** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:26 pm

All skills that update previous should be linked like that. Hope jm does that.

tomiotar · Post by **tomiotar** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:43 pm

sama98b wrote:All skills that update previous should be linked like that. Hope jm does that.

If you want to be logic that is true, but if you want to be practic you will find that int/hyb-int light/cold will have just 1 strong nuke, that bladers will have just 2 stabs (and is hard for them killing with 3) and that glavier will have just 2-hit on emperor to get the stun and GSM has long cooldown, so they will have to wait a lot to use strong skills again. So link the previuos books is logic taking account that is just an update of the same skill, but on real pvp will make most of the fights pot war becuase of the lack of strong skills.

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:51 pm

I think there shouldn't be any except on status effective skills, like knock back/stun/knock down. But it seems pretty stupid just for skill that do good dmg, its not like archer were terribly overpowered o.o, especially how the game is, if you don't have the good skill you have to have sun, if you don't have sun now you don't have the skills anymore ;d.

The point is, its is definitely gay lol, does it make archers unplayable now? Of course not, but theres nothin that we can do but wait and see if its fixed >;d.

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