Joymax approves 1* Poppers?

hellsharpt · Post by **hellsharpt** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:04 pm

eekamouse wrote:If Joymax stopped 1* popping there would be ZERO trade activity.

While I don't know what server you play on I can say with authority that I, nor any of my guildmates have ever hit a one star. I've got 12% into level 2 thief and others in the guild have more.

There are plenty of 2* and up, you just need to look for them. You also need to be patient. There are times when we won't find one for hours, then we'll get a rash of them.

Post by **Ryoko** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:10 pm

Poor skits get beat up

Well, I tricked that hunter the other day remember?

He chase, I made a 180 around the shrubs. but he kept going straight.

My horse behind him, didnt even notice it turned around.

It was like something out of a cartoon! I laughed so hard.

silly wabbit.

Mordecaie · Post by **Mordecaie** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:10 pm

Lol ZERO trade acticity... Nono.. More, lowbos cant be poped, so they finnaly start having fun with jobs... maybe making a 1 star attackable after a certain level wil help... like 30, most people wil be pretty able to defend themselfs after that level me thinks..

Cheers

Post by **Ryoko** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:13 pm

LOL that would be awesome... no more 1* at 30.

/please

Any rate, if you dont ever ever want to compete against another level - dont put on a job suit.

Thats what jobs are all about. Thief and hunter have no 'protection' system. Back in the day, probobly die 20 times a day! But as you grow, you can compete with more and more people.

antix · Post by **antix** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:13 pm

Mordecaie wrote:1* Popping = Bad

1* Popper = Very dead lol

Dead 1* Popper = Worth a party, and to use him as a pillow to sit on.

Thats my 3 cents

Cheers

HEHE, so true. 1* poppers are pretty much the only reason I am training as a hunter. Also, I thought that 1* popping threads wernt allowed anymore..

Mordecaie · Post by **Mordecaie** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:17 pm

Would be awesome indeed Ryoko, or do something bout NPC thiefs, i get killed by those everywhere... Near west ferry.. near east ferry... somewhere else on the Jangan continent... On Dungwhang at ferries... And you say thiefs are not bad guys

Cheers

Post by **Ryoko** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:22 pm

Ha ha yeah, NPC does some crazy stuff sometimes

Go buck wild on a crowd of civilians.

But hey. You know the trader caravans are dangerous to you; and you know you shouldnt grind mobs in the middle of a mess. Cmon now.

Mordecaie · Post by **Mordecaie** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:24 pm

But i got to keep my name as reckless tourist high, so whats a better place to trade and grind, in the middle of NPC thiefs ?

Lol and me not mind dieing like 10 times a week, after a few times, you get used to it :banghead:

Cheers

Ohh btw, #1 Im not cute !

#2 Where is your stall Stacie ? :twisted:

Skitsefrenik · Post by **Skitsefrenik** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:39 pm

Mordecaie wrote:Where is your stall Stacie ?

im guessing its in hotan nd ull have to pay 10k to go there and 10k to get back

Mordecaie · Post by **Mordecaie** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:40 pm

Il pay 10k to go there, and 5k for using my return scroll, and the other 5k i use to buy a new one

.

Cheers

RMP · Post by **RMP** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:46 pm

Ryoko wrote:Ha ha yeah, NPC does some crazy stuff sometimes

Go buck wild on a crowd of civilians.

But hey. You know the trader caravans are dangerous to you; and you know you shouldnt grind mobs in the middle of a mess. Cmon now.

Indeed, but if you are doing the Chakji quest, can't avoid the ferry's area, and you will be dead several times doing that quest, not because you can't stand against chajki, but because you can't stand against the Red thiefs.

Same apply to white tigers skin quest.

Salu2. & Sorry for my bad english.

Post by **Ryoko** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:52 pm

Mordecaie wrote:Il pay 10k to go there, and 5k for using my return scroll, and the other 5k i use to buy a new one .

Cheers

Hurray! My guild wanna pk me. Guess thats the writing on the wall, eh? (^_^)

While your there, feel free to purchase my uber awesome protectors for sale. I need gold to level the guild and buy us more stuff.

Mordecaie · Post by **Mordecaie** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:53 pm

Ferry Area = Chokepoint for NPC thiefs
Chokepoint for NPC thiefs = Lots of dead players ( including me

)
Lots of dead players = #1 Cool to see them all dead, West Ferry Chainsaw Massacre :twisted:

#2 Its also annoying... rezzme ! help me ! 0mfg rezz me ! reeezzzzzzz pleaseeeeeeee.. :banghead:

Cheers

Skitsefrenik · Post by **Skitsefrenik** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:00 pm

so u want us to buy ur stuff to lvl the same guild we're in :roll:

..........why not just ask for contributions lol

Mordecaie · Post by **Mordecaie** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:07 pm

Lol... I didnt want to PK you... ( yet

) But just looking at how i could do that best..

Lol... Hmmm... Those protectors, are they SoS ? Are they + ? Are then blue ? or are then just protectors....

Nah writing n the wall not fun, most people wont read it anyways.. Writing (AKA spamming) the guild chat is way more fun :twisted:

Cheers

PS : IM NOT CUTE !

slyer · Post by **slyer** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:09 pm

i seen theif just park their horses right outside the city gate, so u cant even go out without been star popped..

Skitsefrenik · Post by **Skitsefrenik** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:13 pm

slyer wrote:i seen theif just park their horses right outside the city gate, so u cant even go out without been star popped..

that happened outside jan yesterday, basically everybody but shiva dragon died.

Mordecaie · Post by **Mordecaie** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:14 pm

Lol.. finnaly they kill soneone else ! Yay !... Since then i got killed just twice so i think they found other victims...

Cheers

eekamouse · Post by **eekamouse** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:26 pm

hellsharpt wrote:
eekamouse wrote:If Joymax stopped 1* popping there would be ZERO trade activity.

While I don't know what server you play on I can say with authority that I, nor any of my guildmates have ever hit a one star. I've got 12% into level 2 thief and others in the guild have more.

There are plenty of 2* and up, you just need to look for them. You also need to be patient. There are times when we won't find one for hours, then we'll get a rash of them.

I think you misunderstand. If they took out 1* popping, then everyone would just do 1*. That's what I said. Since you quote me and then replied to something else fictional I said, let me help you.

You missed....

If Joymax

eekamouse · Post by **eekamouse** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:28 pm

Mordecaie wrote:Lol ZERO trade acticity... Nono.. More, lowbos cant be poped, so they finnaly start having fun with jobs... maybe making a 1 star attackable after a certain level wil help... like 30, most people wil be pretty able to defend themselfs after that level me thinks..

Cheers

Then the Level 70's will just 1* freely. Keep 1* popping. It helps create more activity on the road for everyone, especially hunters.

Making a 1* attackable won't work at any level.

Mordecaie · Post by **Mordecaie** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:34 pm

Then make me invulnerable to NPC thief and thief attacks for like always.

Cause that wil make me stop fighting for 1* Trader rights !

Cheers

Post by **Ryoko** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:34 pm

LOL well, after saying in guild chat that thief = bad guy, he finds out today his GL is a level 3 thief.

End goal is 2-3-3 for jobs....someday.

As said. This guild does all jobs.

hellsharpt · Post by **hellsharpt** » Thu May 11, 2006 7:57 pm

My hunter suit is used mostly to reclaim goods stolen by theives that didn't bring down the trader (ie. they jacked my stolen goods). If I get the arrange points I'm taking the loot.

The same goes for any of my guild members. They get what they killed for. I have no qualms dieing on the job for them.

Shoi · Post by **Shoi** » Thu May 11, 2006 8:32 pm

Prolly shouldn't link other threads, especially ones in Off-Topic, but maybe it will lighten this threads mood

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=6433

reien · Post by **reien** » Thu May 11, 2006 9:35 pm

Eekamouse...maybe I not reading you right...but from waht I understand you think 1* popping make people WANT to trade more? If thats what you think may I kindly have your home aress so I can stop by and beat you with my Giant Wooden Club of Common Sense©? How the HELL dose that work?

Oh wooties, I just spent what little cash I had to buy some trade Items so I can try to make some cash to better my char....only to have 1* popper thief #3496 bypass the system and kill me, taking my items, and leaving me broke and unable to do much of anything......I SO WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN!11oneone

Honestly man...double u tee eff....

Anyways, off the 1* issue and back to the point...

I agree with Ryoko, Its a smart move of Joymax part to not say anything, that way most trades will keep playing hopeing for a fix, and thieves will keep playing because of no fix. Sooner or later though Im sure they will be pinned down and have to pick a side, I just hope It results In the banning of every thief who 1*s people. :twisted:

eekamouse · Post by **eekamouse** » Thu May 11, 2006 9:42 pm

reien wrote:Eekamouse...maybe I not reading you right...but from waht I understand you think 1* popping make people WANT to trade more? If thats what you think may I kindly have your home aress so I can stop by and beat you with my Giant Wooden Club of Common Sense©? How the HELL dose that work?

Oh wooties, I just spent what little cash I had to buy some trade Items so I can try to make some cash to better my char....only to have 1* popper thief #3496 bypass the system and kill me, taking my items, and leaving me broke and unable to do much of anything......I SO WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN!11oneone

Honestly man...double u tee eff....

Anyways, off the 1* issue and back to the point...

I agree with Ryoko, Its a smart move of Joymax part to not say anything, that way most trades will keep playing hopeing for a fix, and thieves will keep playing because of no fix. Sooner or later though Im sure they will be pinned down and have to pick a side, I just hope It results In the banning of every thief who 1*s people.

You should read what I said before attacking something I didn't even say.

MY POINT IS: If they take out 1* popping, then the ONLY THING a Level 70 will do is 1* trades, and there will be nothing for hunters or thieves to do. You can make GOOD money doing 1*'s at higher levels.

DON'T 1* ALONE!!!! Do it with a Hunter or as a large group.

Please take English 101 before quoting or replying to my posts please.

GG

kitary · Post by **kitary** » Thu May 11, 2006 10:39 pm

eekamouse wrote:If Joymax stopped 1* popping there would be ZERO trade activity. .

that wont happen , lvl 20 newbie's would trade like mad , and would drop like fly's to earth ghosts and demon horses and stuff leaving enuf loot to pik up for thieves

and reaching lvl cap and doing 1* runs .. ehm sorry but wats stopping ppl from doing that right now ??

actualy nothing . so why do so many ppl still trade under the lvl cap ??

Mabe fun , bordom , a need for gold i dono wat ever ,
Im pretty sure if joymax stoped 1* poping things wont change much eccept the ecconomy hehe ( and that would suck O_O)

Joymax should just change npc thieves for player thieves to hunters ,
couse it would kinda make sence
And arguments about hunters spawning thieves is kinda stupid couse thieves steal stuff ,thay dont go around killing cops and ppl at random orsomething , thats murderers or super vilans , but not thieves

Personaly i dont realy care if thay fix it or not , its only crappy to get popped if your just starting out at sro but that period will end someday .
This dusnt mean that i dont think its fair to the lowbie , but hee i cant controll wat other ppl do ,
Who gives a crap about 30k orso when your bank holds a few mill

eekamouse wrote:MY POINT IS: If they take out 1* popping, then the ONLY THING a Level 70 will do is 1* trades, and there will be nothing for hunters or thieves to do. You can make GOOD money doing 1*'s at higher levels.

DON'T 1* ALONE!!!! Do it with a Hunter or as a large group.

Please take English 101 before quoting or replying to my posts please.

GG

not true , if 1* was unpopeble , the eccon of the servers would be so screwed up , that good lvl 60-70 gear would cost 100x more than wat it would cost now , meaning the trader still needs to do multy stars to make good money conpared to the price of the items

And, i dono if you realise , but lvl 70 ppl are already save from being poped right now !!!

or are you so weak that npc thieve from a player thieve of your own lvl would pown you ?

enlish 101

,, lolo welcome to the internet where remarks like those dont realy hold much weight

Mordecaie · Post by **Mordecaie** » Thu May 11, 2006 10:47 pm

reien wrote:Eekamouse...maybe I not reading you right...but from waht I understand you think 1* popping make people WANT to trade more? If thats what you think may I kindly have your home aress so I can stop by and beat you with my Giant Wooden Club of Common Sense©? How the HELL dose that work?

Oh wooties, I just spent what little cash I had to buy some trade Items so I can try to make some cash to better my char....only to have 1* popper thief #3496 bypass the system and kill me, taking my items, and leaving me broke and unable to do much of anything......I SO WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN!11oneone

Honestly man...double u tee eff....

Anyways, off the 1* issue and back to the point...

I agree with Ryoko, Its a smart move of Joymax part to not say anything, that way most trades will keep playing hopeing for a fix, and thieves will keep playing because of no fix. Sooner or later though Im sure they will be pinned down and have to pick a side, I just hope It results In the banning of every thief who 1*s people.

A lolly for the 1* Activist ! Who else joins our cause to rid the world of rot apples AKA 1* poppers ?

Cheers

reien · Post by **reien** » Thu May 11, 2006 10:49 pm

I said I may not have read you right, so chill out okay? And yes, dont 1* alone...most hunters I know that are of any level to defend you from say....6 level 60+ thieves wont give a 1* the time of day because they wont get anything out of it. I only know 1 level 54 that is more then willing ot help me out, and 1 level 54 wont stop a 1* popper on his best day when thieves travel and pop in backs of 5+ from what iv seen. Go ahead, please, go up to a group of hunters and ask them to stop what they are doing and bow to your awesome 1* run and tell them you will pay them each 5K for helping you...see what happens.

And I doubt that ever level 70 would only do 1* runs just to avoid thieves...I see huge multi star trade runs all the time on Ven, normaly 5-10 traders with a good 10 or so hunters, well over 1*.

Stopping 1* popping would, for one, make the stupid Idea of letting you trade at level 20 seems a little more senseable. Its just Ignorance to allow people to take a job at level 20 when level 70s have no problems screwing you over. It would also make the game a HELL of a lot more fun. and two, aside from grinding, having to farm a billion gold just to keep going so you can farm more Is the WORST part of any MMO. Tradeing gives you a nice break for that and offers you another way to get that shiny new weapon...only to have that snatched from you half the time becasue some level 70 feels like it.

eekamouse · Post by **eekamouse** » Thu May 11, 2006 10:52 pm

Well I just think it would be very tempting to do super fast runs at 120-150k profit a pop from Jang to Donw as a level 60+. In a week you could make a few mil easy.

I'm not against level capping 1* safety. If you could do 1*'s completely safe until you hit trader level 2 or something. Hey. Fine. That's probably not a bad idea to let people get the feel of it. Or maybe, they could make it so that you can only do 1* for the first level of Trader.

But why do people want to do trade run all day at level 20-30? To save for an SoS? Then what will you do. That's right... get to level 70 =)

Either way you look at it, this game is designed around being the highest level. There are no low level dungeons. The highest level can attack a level 20, so you would have to change SEVERAL mechanics of the game to re-balance it if you started level capping certain areas of the game.

I'm not a big fan of the grind to level 70 with nothing to do in the meantime either, but that's the game. I do 1* runs. Take out 1* popping and there would no excitement.

To my mind people need to start doing more 2* and up runs. If you get jacked, you really don't lose that much money.

-Edit-

You added some stuff to your post since I first replied....

Level 70's can be popped too. Just take a group of 2 or 3 level 70 thieves and 1* pop the Level 70 trader. Easy.