Rouge v.s Warrior?

realfoxboy · Post by **realfoxboy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:46 pm

your screens are totally irrelevant to this topic :roll:

ok rouges are way better than a warrior...no doubt...

That is total BS! No build is "better" than the other, why don't you ppl understand this...

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:50 pm

realfoxboy wrote:your screens are totally irrelevant to this topic

ok rouges are way better than a warrior...no doubt...

That is total BS! No build is "better" than the other, why don't you ppl understand this...

Rogue is better than warrior in PvP there......im sure your still sad though

realfoxboy · Post by **realfoxboy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:52 pm

XemnasXD wrote:
realfoxboy wrote:your screens are totally irrelevant to this topic

ok rouges are way better than a warrior...no doubt...

That is total BS! No build is "better" than the other, why don't you ppl understand this...

Rogue is better than warrior in PvP there......im sure your still sad though

believe whatever you want...

DeShin · Post by **DeShin** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:55 pm

I disagree to the fact that rogue is way better than warrior. This game is built for 50:50 and it mainly depends on your playstyle. There is no such thing as the best build. Every characters implemented in iSRO has its own good and bad and we can't deny it, simple as that.

realfoxboy · Post by **realfoxboy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:57 pm

DeShin wrote:I disagree to the fact that rogue is way better than warrior. This game is built for 50:50 and it mainly depends on your playstyle. There is no such thing as the best build. Every characters implemented in iSRO has its own good and bad and we can't deny it, simple as that.

some ppl just don't want to understand...

Scrub · Post by **Scrub** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:04 pm

lol understand what....warriors are good builds.... no doubt...i have a warrior...just look in my sig...but the fact is that rouges just seem to be better at everything...each build having its own weak and strong points...the rouge seems to be the better/stronger build

realfoxboy · Post by **realfoxboy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:05 pm

Scrub wrote:lol understand what....warriors are good builds.... no doubt...i have a warrior...just look in my sig...but the fact is that rouges just seem to be better at everything...each build having its own weak and strong points...the rouge seems to be the better/stronger build

yeah they got really good def...

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:07 pm

realfoxboy wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
realfoxboy wrote:your screens are totally irrelevant to this topic

ok rouges are way better than a warrior...no doubt...

That is total BS! No build is "better" than the other, why don't you ppl understand this...

Rogue is better than warrior in PvP there......im sure your still sad though

believe whatever you want...

lol theres hardly a build i can't 1 hit my lvl.....and warriors go down almost embarrassingly easy.....rogues>Warriors in terms of pvp by far.....

realfoxboy · Post by **realfoxboy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:11 pm

XemnasXD wrote:
realfoxboy wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
realfoxboy wrote:your screens are totally irrelevant to this topic

ok rouges are way better than a warrior...no doubt...

That is total BS! No build is "better" than the other, why don't you ppl understand this...

Rogue is better than warrior in PvP there......im sure your still sad though

believe whatever you want...

lol theres hardly a build i can't 1 hit my lvl.....and warriors go down almost embarrassingly easy.....rogues>Warriors in terms of pvp by far.....

i've never lost a pvp against a rogue yet and yes I fought with rogues on the same level range with me. I had to retreat from time to time but never got killed.

I guess i have to make stupid movie with a promising title like "w4rri0r pwnz everybody" where i 1 hit ppl who are 1degree below me and kill some mangyangs with zerk...

Scrub · Post by **Scrub** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:20 pm

yes but see....warriors are good but u did have to retreat...argo...u would have died if u hadnt....neither build is bad...but rouge seem to be strong/fast....which isnt kool for us warriors...LOL

DeShin · Post by **DeShin** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:23 pm

At least warrior have iron skin, so that they can handle those aggro mobs. 75% decrease in def (desperate), i think rogue gonna die first.

realfoxboy · Post by **realfoxboy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:24 pm

Scrub wrote:yes but see....warriors are good but u did have to retreat...argo...u would have died if u hadnt....neither build is bad...but rouge seem to be strong/fast....which isnt kool for us warriors...LOL

exactly.

what im trying to tell is that none of them is superior.

IceCrash · Post by **IceCrash** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:31 pm

iBilly wrote:Hi there.

It's Rogue.

Hi there.
Learn some stuff about european characters and then comeback pl0x.
This can't be an opinion, these are facts >.>
well, with stealth, maybe they can get them , dont know >.> But erm they cant what so ever kill a warrior with its buffs on, they will just tank rogue's dmg and get to him and two/three shot them.
Thats how stuff happens..it isnt my opinion.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:38 pm

[NF]IceCrash wrote:
iBilly wrote:Hi there.

It's Rogue.

Hi there.
Learn some stuff about european characters and then comeback pl0x.
This can't be an opinion, these are facts >.>
well, with stealth, maybe they can get them , dont know >.> But erm they cant what so ever kill a warrior with its buffs on, they will just tank rogue's dmg and get to him and two/three shot them.
Thats how stuff happens..it isnt my opinion.

do you even have a warrior...if i turn DD and let him keep his buffs on they'll hardly be damaging me.....Granted it;ll take longer to kill him but its no big deal...the warriors weakest in pvp when he's tanking he'll end up with worse damage than ablader

CloudFromPersia · Post by **CloudFromPersia** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:21 pm

I think warrior would win, not saying rogues suck. But Warriors have that skill that raises there def, both magic and physical. Even if a rogue hits higher it will be lowered by a lot, at lvl 80 i'm guessing its atleast 900+ def, cuz i'm lvl 59 and it already gives 480 def and i haven't even lvled it yet. And 2hers hit pretty high i hit 59k on a mangyang while zerking with critical

IceCrash · Post by **IceCrash** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:42 pm

XemnasXD wrote:
[NF]IceCrash wrote:
iBilly wrote:Hi there.

It's Rogue.

Hi there.
Learn some stuff about european characters and then comeback pl0x.
This can't be an opinion, these are facts >.>
well, with stealth, maybe they can get them , dont know >.> But erm they cant what so ever kill a warrior with its buffs on, they will just tank rogue's dmg and get to him and two/three shot them.
Thats how stuff happens..it isnt my opinion.

do you even have a warrior...if i turn DD and let him keep his buffs on they'll hardly be damaging me.....Granted it;ll take longer to kill him but its no big deal...the warriors weakest in pvp when he's tanking he'll end up with worse damage than ablader

you just give me more reason by posting that, and no i dont have a warrior.
but i have a friend lvl 70 + with a fully farmed warrior, and i watch him pvp loads of times.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:47 pm

rogues will pwnzor everyone except smart warriors

realfoxboy · Post by **realfoxboy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:48 pm

Barotix wrote:rogues will pwnzor everyone except smart warriors

not if a wizard "pwnzor"'s him first... :roll:

Post by **Rainigul** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:52 pm

A warrior would definately win.

I mean, how can a color beat a warrior?

I know it's been said before, but I hate how so many people say rouge.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:53 pm

realfoxboy wrote:
Barotix wrote:rogues will pwnzor everyone except smart warriors

not if a wizard "pwnzor"'s him first...

wizard pwnzor just about anything so what was the point of that statement....and unlike wizard a rogue can actually survive a hit so im saying rogue=Warlock>wizard>Cleric>Bard>Warrior......that just life mate

realfoxboy · Post by **realfoxboy** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:54 pm

XemnasXD wrote:
realfoxboy wrote:
Barotix wrote:rogues will pwnzor everyone except smart warriors

not if a wizard "pwnzor"'s him first...

wizard pwnzor just about anything so what was the point of that statement....and unlike wizard a rogue can actually survive a hit so im saying rogue=Warlock>wizard>Cleric>Bard>Warrior......that just life mate

yeah sure, that proves much...

jarrod · Post by **jarrod** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:13 am

go on believing it , if it makes you happy/satisfied

p/s i'll go for warrior for it's way cool armour.

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:05 am

Anyone's thoughts on a Warrior/Rogue build?

FX · Post by FX » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:14 am

i played rogue for 40 lvls and a 1H warrior for 46 lvls. i think the 1H warrior would come on top since the passive crit reduction, phy def increase in trhe 1H skill line + the general warrior buffs

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:34 am

if the warrior runs around with vital increase on all the time (which they should), then theyll withstand a rogue crit, long enough to turn on iron skin, then theyll obliterate the rogue.

if vital isnt on followed by an iron skin, warrior dies and gg.

iBilly · Post by **iBilly** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:29 am

[NF]IceCrash wrote:
iBilly wrote:Hi there.

It's Rogue.

Hi there.
Learn some stuff about european characters and then comeback pl0x.
This can't be an opinion, these are facts >.>
well, with stealth, maybe they can get them , dont know >.> But erm they cant what so ever kill a warrior with its buffs on, they will just tank rogue's dmg and get to him and two/three shot them.
Thats how stuff happens..it isnt my opinion.

You moron, I was commenting on the wrong spelling of 'Rouge', and saying 'It's Rogue'.

As for learning stuff about these Euro classes... I've got a character which is both Warrior & Rogue, level 50. I would say I know more than you about comparing the two, so take a nice glass of "iBilly just made me look stupid" and pretend you didn't have the nerve to criticize me.

I never once mentioned one had better ability in this thread, I commented on the spelling.

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:30 am

lmao wtf is pl0x? lol.

realfoxboy · Post by **realfoxboy** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:36 am

MrFudge wrote:if the warrior runs around with vital increase on all the time (which they should), then theyll withstand a rogue crit, long enough to turn on iron skin, then theyll obliterate the rogue.

if vital isnt on followed by an iron skin, warrior dies and gg.

exactly.

Sylhana · Post by **Sylhana** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:37 am

MrFudge wrote:lmao wtf is pl0x? lol.

o_0

--->pl0x<---

pls...

iBilly · Post by **iBilly** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:02 am

If a Warrior dies to a Rogue when he's fully buffed, that Warrior has farked up somewhere along the line. This is when they're both equal gears/levels of course, there are a number of factors that could affect that outside of equip/level boundaries.

Iron Skin is an incredibly powerful self-buff which turns 3 digit from mobs into 2 digit. All you need to do is survive one hit from the Rogue so stealth is lost, then Sprint Assault (stunned or KB), knocked down or stunned with the next attack, finished.

Rogues are best suited against mage classes... Wizards, Warlocks, Clerics, etc.

Both have their uses, anyone who argues one is outright better than the other is a fool. Xemnas, you are rather narrow minded. Congratulations on fighting Warriors who suck at their class. I'm fully farmed with every single skill for Warrior / Rogue on my character up to level 51, and no Rogue can kill me when I'm in Warrior mode unless I lag, or they're considerably higher/better geared than me.