Euro Questions.

Post by **Stress** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:13 am

CPU, RAM usage are much bigger for ksro...
loads about two times slower then isro

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:23 am

Key-J wrote:Are Horses for both races?
Yup.
How will prices compare between Euro and Chinese towns?
Prices of what?
Do we expect anything really cool or unexpected with the Euro update?
New pills?
Will we get the penguins, pegasus, ostricth and stuff with Euro?
Probably not.
I wonder if they put in place a level restriction for Uniques?
Level 90's still race to kill the level 20+ Euro Unique.
Will the Jobs Wars be updated with Euro? Or Before Euro? Or After?
Probably before.
Btw, you guys that play kSRO and iSRO, how does the CPU usage, and HDD space compare?

Seems to take longer to load up but not as laggy in game. Probably because its less people though. In donwang looking at the ground on iSRO, I get about 40 FPS. If I do the same on kSRO, I get about 60 FPS. You can toggle the wind effect on or off in kSRO. There are also many options I do not understand that you can change.

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:54 am

Like prices in general, and the game itself. For example, would it be more economical to be a Chinese Char or and Euro char?

If it was just and Average Joe playing.

Post by **Stress** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:04 am

Key-J wrote:Like prices in general, and the game itself. For example, would it be more economical to be a Chinese Char or and Euro char?

If it was just and Average Joe playing.

Euro uses way less pots (which is quite logical BTW)
So grinding times increase and pot run frequency decreases. This leads to greater effectiveness in leveling.
So I guess it's more economical to maintain an euro char.

Post by **Rainigul** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:11 am

Da_Realest wrote:Seems to take longer to load up but not as laggy in game. Probably because its less people though. In donwang looking at the ground on iSRO, I get about 40 FPS. If I do the same on kSRO, I get about 60 FPS. You can toggle the wind effect on or off in kSRO. There are also many options I do not understand that you can change.

Damn your computer is fast.

For me it I get like 18 fps in dw in isro.

I get about 35 fps in dw in ksro.

It takes like 45 seconds to start up isro.

It took like 5 minutes to start up ksro.

Post by **Stress** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:26 am

Rainigul wrote:
Da_Realest wrote:Seems to take longer to load up but not as laggy in game. Probably because its less people though. In donwang looking at the ground on iSRO, I get about 40 FPS. If I do the same on kSRO, I get about 60 FPS. You can toggle the wind effect on or off in kSRO. There are also many options I do not understand that you can change.

Damn your computer is fast.

For me it I get like 18 fps in dw in isro.

I get about 35 fps in dw in ksro.

It takes like 45 seconds to start up isro.

It took like 5 minutes to start up ksro.

Nothing new... happens here too.

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:36 am

Fack, seriously? 5mins! Just to start up? You better get in on first chance!

N when you say start up, you mean just for the Game to Execute?

Post by **Stress** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:33 am

Key-J wrote:Fack, seriously? 5mins! Just to start up? You better get in on first chance!

N when you say start up, you mean just for the Game to Execute?

Until I get to actually start playing.

soulcollector · Post by **soulcollector** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:02 am

Ok heres one

Question: Will we need to SP farm like hell to have good euro chars ?

Handelo · Post by **Handelo** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:14 am

Another question is how difficult would it be for buffer-class characters to grind? After all, they have much weaker attacks than Warriors and Rogues. Or am I mistaken?

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:56 am

Thats a good question. Along with that, how do the partys work in Euro?

Must it be essential to have a healer?
Must it be essential to have a 8man group?
Do different groups mae out of different ammounts or types of classes have advantages and dissadvantages?
Does each class hold a chance to take it for example SRT/INT or something like that?

VforVendetta · Post by **VforVendetta** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:21 am

Handelo wrote:Another question is how difficult would it be for buffer-class characters to grind? After all, they have much weaker attacks than Warriors and Rogues. Or am I mistaken?

Clerics have a range of different buffs such as for HP, Strength and Int, but they also have a good few attacks one of the best being the attack the reduces your HP by 95% but Lv 1 of the skill does around 240~330 (978%)
and the level 80 version does 1130~1340 (978%) but you have to be absolutely sure to use it, e.i be in a party with another cleric to reheal you as quickly as possible.

Roweena · Post by **Roweena** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:22 am

when will we have euro?

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:26 pm

Lol i knew someone would ask that

hemagoku · Post by **hemagoku** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:27 pm

2~12months

Post by **Stress** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:29 pm

Very few builds can solo a giant of their level. A dual wield axe can.
I did it with my 2hand swordsman too. It's almost impossible for a wizard. Dunno for sure about clerics.

IceCrash · Post by **IceCrash** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:42 pm

You need a healer, and the most ppl you have in ur party , better is ur grinding time.

w00t · Post by **w00t** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:52 pm

YangKang wrote:
Key-J wrote:
_wolf_ wrote:1. Can I lvl both a euro and a chinese character on the same account?
2. Is money transferrable between the two races? (IGG) - Yes
quote]

There ya go

YangKang is hot.

Back on topic. Since EURO is based on team play and solo grinding ur ass of till lvl *** isnt possible anymore. What will happen? Isnt the community of isro to farked up to do this? I can imagine that people who dont have friends ingame dont have a chance to get passed lvl 25..

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:03 pm

Well this way its gna be much easier to know who is legit and who isnt. I think they should just release Euro now to know who bots and who dont

cin · Post by **cin** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:04 pm

i got a question which i hope isnt posted yet.

i keep hearing about buffers and how important they are for the team work
of the euro's. how hard is it to level these buff chars? ive played several
other games with buffers, but in all those, the buffers were the hardest to
level since they were based mostly on their buffs and you dont get any
xp from that.

anybody here with this knowledge?

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:22 pm

cin wrote:i got a question which i hope isnt posted yet.

i keep hearing about buffers and how important they are for the team work
of the euro's. how hard is it to level these buff chars? ive played several
other games with buffers, but in all those, the buffers were the hardest to
level since they were based mostly on their buffs and you dont get any
xp from that.

anybody here with this knowledge?

Join an exp share party and buff people. lol All buff classes(bard, cleric) have attack spells but they'll be too busy helping the other characters in the party to use them.

I'll also add that Euro weapons on have one attack stat on their weapon. Its either Phy attack or mag attack. No reason to create a hybrid character on Euro.

I seen a level 90 wizard 2 hit a level 90 glaive user. 20k+ nukes.

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:50 pm

So, what your saying is that its possible for Euro players to Dominate the RacevsRace PvP?

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:55 pm

Key-J wrote:So, what your saying is that its possible for Euro players to Dominate the RacevsRace PvP?

If left unnoticed...

Without Cleric buffs, Euro characters die from a Soul Spear and a Ghost Spear. It may take a 2nd Ghost Spear to kill them. Pure str or not.

HyorunmarouZ · Post by **HyorunmarouZ** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:28 pm

soulcollector wrote:Ok heres one

Question: Will we need to SP farm like hell to have good euro chars ?

Hmm i've been lvling up to 16 with 2 materies and i'm not short of xp yet... Euros don't need as much skills as chinese, so overall you need less SP. Unless you train warrior mastery and want to train all 3 weapons (which you can, triple weild

) Or rogue mastery and train Crossbow and Daggers...

You'll need to farm, but i doubt it will be "like hell".

Key-J wrote:Thats a good question.

1. Along with that, how do the partys work in Euro?

2. Must it be essential to have a healer?
3. Must it be essential to have a 8man group?
4. Do different groups mae out of different ammounts or types of classes have advantages and dissadvantages?
5. Does each class hold a chance to take it for example SRT/INT or something like that?

1. A well organized party in euro do wonders, can grind effectively in mobs 5lvl higher, even more, which is a very fast way to level up.
2. Not essential if you coordinate your members, but they help a lot, try to get one if you can. If you can't, try to have at least a buffer.
3. Not essential... i think a cleric, a harp, a crossbow and a tank can do very good, but that's imo hehe
4. I don't understad very well the question

But i think you say that parties could be more effective with a certain amount of members of a specific class? A good party could be formed by 1 buffer, 2 healers, 2-3 tanks, 2-3 dmg dealers (wizard or warlock). You could change a tanker or a dmg dealer for a rogue (crossbow or dagger), as they have a few useful skills (and the stealth is always help ful, specially in group fights).
5. Hum... don't understand the question hehe i suppose you mean if they need to be pures or there is a chance to be hybrid?... if that's the question, as much as i hate it... you need to be pure. The weapons of euro have ONLY mag attack or only phy attack, so you need to be either pure str or pure int.

cin wrote:i got a question which i hope isnt posted yet.

i keep hearing about buffers and how important they are for the team work
of the euro's. how hard is it to level these buff chars? ive played several
other games with buffers, but in all those, the buffers were the hardest to
level since they were based mostly on their buffs and you dont get any
xp from that.

anybody here with this knowledge?

They don't do much damage as they are meant to help in a party... usually they never attack, but are always casting buffs. Same with clerics and healing, but clerics have more powerful magic as far as i've seen.

HakubiNi · Post by **HakubiNi** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:33 pm

1. Can chinese characters get buffed by euro characters?
2. Can chinese characters be healed by euro clerics?
3. How often do "Party mobs" show up? Only in Europe? If so, what when European characters get to high level and go train in Hotan/Karakoram/Taklamakan?
4. How does the item drop system works?

There are my questions.

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:54 pm

HakubiNi wrote:1. Can chinese characters get buffed by euro characters?
Yes.
2. Can chinese characters be healed by euro clerics?
Yes.
3. How often do "Party mobs" show up? Only in Europe? If so, what when European characters get to high level and go train in Hotan/Karakoram/Taklamakan?
They show up as much as normal mobs. Party mobs appear in China and Europe.
4. How does the item drop system works?
Its no different than our version.

There are my questions.

Vandall · Post by **Vandall** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:04 am

is constantinopole bigger than jangan/DW? because thats how it seems like in all the euro vids.

GuruSikh · Post by **GuruSikh** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:33 am

Party mobs hardly show up if your in a dis. party, but if your in share party, they show up more and especially alot more if you have more ppl in your party.

The thing with share parties & party mobs is, the people must be near each otherwise it the spawn rate will be low of party mobs. Cuz you can be in a share party, grinding by yourself, you will hardly see any party mobs.

As for buffers, its not hard for them to lvl than any other class because they usually take another skill tree like the wizard cuz they are mostly pure int and wizard produces the most damage compared to the other euro classes. They usually buff when in party, and use their 2nd matery when they solo grind.

GuruSikh · Post by **GuruSikh** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:38 am

Vandall wrote:is constantinopole bigger than jangan/DW? because thats how it seems like in all the euro vids.

I don't know, I would have to say they're about the same, but as for the 2nd euro town, I would have to say it seems smaller cuz lvl 31-37 mobs is very close to town unlike in dw. If you really want to be accurate, just compare the area of each town to another town on the map.

Vandall · Post by **Vandall** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:52 am

thanks Guru.
nother few Q's:
1. is it better to be a rouge build if u wanna be a hardcore thief, since they have all those cool stealth and mark ur enemy skills
2. r u the only 1 that sees the mark ur enemy skill, or does he/she no also that ur watching him?