The real truth about disjointing SOS and Blues (and my set)

[EllisD]

eventually someone's going to post here saying they own a lucky tablet. I've seen them in 3 different people's stalls, 2 in hotan, 1 in DW. Their requirements are really odd too. And as soon as they do, they'll tell us where it came from. And since there are no other ways to get one than disjointing items, that's how. Can anyone honestly say they got a lucky stone from disjointing or just heard about someone getting one?

Yes I got one 8d lucky stone.

Ive gotten lots and lots of lucky stones. What he has to proove is that there is a lucky TABLET.

That's what he asked..

lol, sorry bout that

Nobody has doubted the existence of lucky stones, i just figured he was on about the "lucky tablets" again

Got those screenies yet?

[risi]

There is no lucky tablet in Silkroad, I think these high levels posting in this thread would know much more than you do ? delete ur thread

[desolator144]

No screenshot or anything, but I distinctly remember seeing 3 lucky tabs in a stall once before the 80 cap was released.

see, I'm not crazy! Other perceptive ppl with good memories saw it too! now I just need one person to still have one....hmmm....

[desolator144]

Nobody has doubted the existence of lucky stones, i just figured he was on about the "lucky tablets" again
Got those screenies yet?

There is no lucky tablet in Silkroad

Ive gotten lots and lots of lucky stones. What he has to proove is that there is a lucky TABLET.

I'll say again since apparently all you morons missed it:

No screenshot or anything, but I distinctly remember seeing 3 lucky tabs in a stall once before the 80 cap was released.

that makes two reasonable, sane people who have definitely absolutely no matter what seen them unless aliens planted the memory in our brains.
Oh and LMAO @ the high lvls remark. High lvls are high lvl cuz they kill monsters nonstop 95% of the time. I played for over a year and I'm rich and only lvl 39 because I look at stalls and buy and sell stuff 95% of the time. Like I said, logically, who's more likely to be right...people who have seen them and have been looking, or people who haven't seen any and haven't been looking? I've never seen a real live panda (cuz I haven't looked) but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

[EllisD]

Nobody has doubted the existence of lucky stones, i just figured he was on about the "lucky tablets" again
Got those screenies yet?

There is no lucky tablet in Silkroad

Ive gotten lots and lots of lucky stones. What he has to proove is that there is a lucky TABLET.

I'll say again since apparently all you morons missed it:

No screenshot or anything, but I distinctly remember seeing 3 lucky tabs in a stall once before the 80 cap was released.

that makes two reasonable, sane people who have definitely absolutely no matter what seen them unless aliens planted the memory in our brains.
Oh and LMAO @ the high lvls remark. High lvls are high lvl cuz they kill monsters nonstop 95% of the time. I played for over a year and I'm rich and only lvl 39 because I look at stalls and buy and sell stuff 95% of the time. Like I said, logically, who's more likely to be right...people who have seen them and have been looking, or people who haven't seen any and haven't been looking? I've never seen a real live panda (cuz I haven't looked) but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Ha, i love it.

Well i will say it again, cause you, the moron, seemed to miss it

Get a screenshot of a lucky tablet cause its the only thing that is going to prove its existence to the many people that believe otherwise

Wow, gg, ive played over a year, im well off with my last set of gear pimped, and lvl 77. So....whats your point? I buy, I sell, Im in stalls everyday looking for a way to make money. Shit is expensive as you progress in this game and if you dont stall hunt, you gotta be dam lucky to have anything that resembles "good gear"

It seems you might be confused with what is going on also. Nobody has doubted the existence of lucky stones (you seemed proud to state you saw a 3rd degree lucky stone in someones stall). They just doubt you have a clue about what your saying by stating you get lucky tablets from breaking items.

[Uriko]

When you get 5 it lies
5=4

[__Raiden__]

lol.... at this post..... here is the truth...... u can get any stone i mean any(well not astral and immortal) from items..... degree 8 and degree 7 are the most likely to give u stones..... and if u wanna test if u get a stone out of the item fill your inv up leave about 3 spaces or less buy the correct amount of rondo and press the "fuse" button it will say 4 spaces required blah blah... that means ur only getting elements.... if it says 5 you could get lucky but if it does say 6 and onward your definately getting a stone unless your unlucky rofl...

ITS BASED ON BLUES NOT +!!!

[BaronSengir]

first of all the slot things are random second of all i have got a lucky stone and a 35% str stone breaking 1 item

[VanTokkern]

I've seen the birth of the new alchemy system and not once have I heard of a lucky tablet..
They might exist in the PK2 files but that doesn't mean they're distributed inside the game, untill I see a screenshot I'll remain sceptical. Hell.. I'll probably be doubting untill I get one myself..

Second, I've had 3 stones out of items before myself, and once got a message saying I needed 8 free slots for destroying my item, which would mean I'd get 4 stacks of elements, and 4 stones.
This IS indeed the same for everyone like you said since it's the code, that doesn't mean 5dg items give the same as 8dg items.
If you had been high lvl you'd even notice a big difference in alchemy items/stones between 8dg T1 and 8dg T3 items. Since you aren't, how can you claim to be right and know how it all works?

And thirdly, 5k stacks of 9dg elements isn't an unlikely number. If only you knew how long it takes to lvl from 75-80..



You're lvl 39 and have been on iSRO for over a year. Congrats, there are so many things inside the game you haven't experienced.. in my eyes you're still a young un..

And logically, if 100 people say lucky tablets don't exist, and 2 people claim they've seen one, it's more likely the 100 people are right
And you still don't want to believe that higher degree items give more stones when 100 people tell you that's how it is and noone else is backing you up..
Your posts and full of contradictions and you're wrong on so many counts.
I suggest you lvl to 70 first, break a few 8dg items, and then we'll talk again.

[Crumpets]

ITS BASED ON BLUES NOT +!!!

Actually it's random no matter what the blues / + / seal is ..... I remember getting 2 lucky 1 str from a 72 plain ring ..

It's as usual random bullcrap from joyamx alc system. O and uhmm

VTokkeren I agree botu the luck tabs .. I've pimped out 3 sets of 72-77 too 100% alchemy .. I've made weps +7 of mostly every degree, been everywhere seen too many stalls and NEVER have I come across a lucky tab. Next time anyone sees it ss it and tell us the elements required ok?

[Zyankali]

Okay kids, mommy is gunna tell u about this

First of:
from 8D items u can get more than just 1 stone.

You do not get tablets.
Stones and elements is what u get.

SoX stones dont excist so dont even dare to tell me they do.

Yes you do get lucky STONES but not tablets, and yes you can get more than just 1 lucky stones from an item.

The item doesnt require to have a lucky stat on it to give u a stone.

Stones that you can get from an item can be anything that is for example a stat on an item. so lets say u buy a npc blade and disjoint it. its got phy attack power, mag attack power, attack rating, crit, phy reinforce, mag reinfore maybe blues blah blah. So you could get a crit stones, or a courage stone, or philosophy or for example even an str stone if the item had str increases.

I once had a 72 glaive +2 and a 72 bow +0.
When i went to disjoint them the glaive gave me 2 lucky stones. YES AT ONCE FROM JUST ONE ITEM! and the bow gave me only a few needless stones.

they both were blank items, no blues.

from a clean earring i once got an str stone.
alot of the item that u disjoint give low percentage stones, but alot high ones aswell.

Hope this clearn everything up. and dont tell me this aint true, ive been thru alchemy >_> i have used every kind of stone and tried every kind of fusing/disjointing.

[EllisD]

lol ok tomorrow I'll global a request for 1 mil to just see one.

Any luck with that global?

No? awwww

[desolator144]

lol ok tomorrow I'll global a request for 1 mil to just see one.

Any luck with that global?

No? awwww

I haven't even been able to get on! But when I do, I'm gonna make a movie of me disjointing 100 blue items (since I do that every day, why not record it) and prove to you that it's BS that the odds are so good for 6D and under. I know everyone says 7 and 8 give off stones so often but I disjoint thousands of 3,4,5, and 6D items every day so for me to have never gotten a stone ever seems sort of unlikely.
Btw PROVE to me that a 5% or a 35% stone exists. Now that I have never ever ever seen so I'll be a dick like you guys and make you prove that they exist. I've never seen anything like that in a stall anywhere ever and I've seen a lot of stalls

[Innovacious]

lol ok tomorrow I'll global a request for 1 mil to just see one.

Any luck with that global?

No? awwww

I haven't even been able to get on! But when I do, I'm gonna make a movie of me disjointing 100 blue items (since I do that every day, why not record it) and prove to you that it's BS that the odds are so good for 6D and under. I know everyone says 7 and 8 give off stones so often but I disjoint thousands of 3,4,5, and 6D items every day so for me to have never gotten a stone ever seems sort of unlikely.
Btw PROVE to me that a 5% or a 35% stone exists. Now that I have never ever ever seen so I'll be a dick like you guys and make you prove that they exist. I've never seen anything like that in a stall anywhere ever and I've seen a lot of stalls

lol, well i bet loads of people on these forums KNOW 5% and 35% exist but only like 2 people THINK lucky tabs exist

[desolator144]

you're not very good with probability and statistics, are you? If I've only ever seen probably about 5 lucky stones ever, and tablets only existed before the lvl 80 cap update, then there's probably about 25x less tablets than stones. Then you factor in how they can be made into stones and there's a good chance at any given time, there was only one on the server when they did exist. So the chances absolutely suck that I'll find another one but with those odds you shouldn't be surprised that you didn't ever see one.

[shousuke]

Oh i saw an alien just now, I didnt have my camera but I swear really I saw it!!!
They do exist!

[desolator144]

Well well well, look what I found. Is that enough people to convince you yet? They exist but they all got turned into stones now, give it up dumbass.

notice what Maxxux said especially. He had one and he sold it for 5 mil, probably not long after they were disoncontinued. Also, later someone told me they got one dropped at the scorpions right after tablet dropping came out but I dunno about that. He did say his rabbit had it so maybe someone dropped one but iunno. Didn't immortal tabs accidentally drop too for like a week or something?
So unless you'd care to explain why multiple people would try and convince me that they exist for no reason (since I said I'd only pay them if they showed me one), I think I've pretty well proved it.

[Innovacious]

ok, there clear this up once and for all, im off to the official forums, if there was ever such a thing as a lucky tablet then i am sorry, but all signs point to no right now.

[Nyahgis]

When I go back to town [grinding the ever boring 79 quest right now], I'll screenie 5k+ 9th Deg elements, and a 5% and 35% stone if I still have one or if I can find one in a stall. The lucky tablet thing, I personally believe to be bullcrap though. Just because the pk2 has data for it doesn't mean it exists... There's astral and immortal tablets documented in there as well.

[TacticalMedic]

Im with desoaltor and all who believe there are luck tabs. Ive seen one myself and never screened it, thought it wasnt that special back then. And about that, when 100 people say something and 3 others believe in the contrary, thats just simple human phychology, when one says/does something that others think is reasonable, they tend to believe in it, thus more and more people fall for it like a herd of sheep.

Luck Tabs HAVE existed and then have been set not to drop by JoyMax!

[desolator144]

Im with desoaltor and all who believe there are luck tabs. Ive seen one myself and never screened it, thought it wasnt that special back then. And about that, when 100 people say something and 3 others believe in the contrary, thats just simple human phychology, when one says/does something that others think is reasonable, they tend to believe in it, thus more and more people fall for it like a herd of sheep.

Luck Tabs HAVE existed and then have been set not to drop by JoyMax!

Thank you Tactical-Not-A-Sheep-Medic I think that brings the count up to about 8 ppl that have seen a lucky tablet. Lol all signs point to no, huh? You might want to shake that magic 8 ball again lol

[desolator144]

hey all you people who say you guys stones left and right all the time....0 hmm that's a long name, maybe I'll just call you stoners....check out this post with my vid I made about how much of a load of crap that is too!
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=467178#467178

[EllisD]

lol ok tomorrow I'll global a request for 1 mil to just see one.

Any luck with that global?

No? awwww

I haven't even been able to get on! But when I do, 1. I'm gonna make a movie of me disjointing 100 blue items (since I do that every day, why not record it) and prove to you that it's BS that the odds are so good for 6D and under. I know everyone says 7 and 8 give off stones so often but I disjoint thousands of 3,4,5, and 6D items every day so for me to have never gotten a stone ever seems sort of unlikely.
2. Btw PROVE to me that a 5% or a 35% stone exists. Now that I have never ever ever seen so I'll be a dick like you guys and make you prove that they exist. I've never seen anything like that in a stall anywhere ever and I've seen a lot of stalls

Point 1. If you cared to read, i stated this in one of my posts.

As far as i know, you can get stones from ANY degree, it just gets more rare the lower degree you go. Basically, you have a high chance of getting a stone off an 8th degree break, but a very small, almost non-existent chance in getting a stone of a 1st degree break.

So you not getting stones from 3,4,5,6 degree is possible, because they are more rare than stones from 7th and 8th degree breaks, but they do exist, not that i have screenies, but apparently you dont need a screenshot to proove something exists.

Point 2. This request is no problem. I know i have a screenie of a 5% dodging stone from when i was doing up my som chest. 35% stones i find are some of the most common ones to get off of breaks, so obtaining one will also be no problem.

Wanting something prooved via screenshot of an item that most dont believe to exist i wouldnt call being a "dick". I would lean more towards someone saying something exists beyond a reasonable doubt with no proof and being stubborn, offering only his word, to be more of a "dick"


Screenshots of what you request are easy. Get me a screenshot of a lucky tablet that exists in todays game, and i will shut up. Simple, no?

[desolator144]

So if everyone made stones out of their luck tablets and there's absolutely 0 left in the game to screenshot, that means they never existed? Sometimes you can't get a screenshot you know.

[EllisD]

hey all you people who say you guys stones left and right all the time....0 hmm that's a long name, maybe I'll just call you stoners....check out this post with my vid I made about how much of a load of crap that is too!
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=467178#467178

I will quote it multiple times cause you seemed to have missed it

As far as i know, you can get stones from ANY degree, it just gets more rare the lower degree you go. Basically, you have a high chance of getting a stone off an 8th degree break, but a very small, almost non-existent chance in getting a stone of a 1st degree break.

As far as i know, you can get stones from ANY degree, it just gets more rare the lower degree you go. Basically, you have a high chance of getting a stone off an 8th degree break, but a very small, almost non-existent chance in getting a stone of a 1st degree break.

As far as i know, you can get stones from ANY degree, it just gets more rare the lower degree you go. Basically, you have a high chance of getting a stone off an 8th degree break, but a very small, almost non-existent chance in getting a stone of a 1st degree break.

Have you read it yet?

As far as i know, you can get stones from ANY degree, it just gets more rare the lower degree you go. Basically, you have a high chance of getting a stone off an 8th degree break, but a very small, almost non-existent chance in getting a stone of a 1st degree break.

You havent meddled in high level alchemy so to claim that you know everything about the process is ludacris. You have NO CLUE about the chances to get stones off of 7th and 8th degree items. Go to hotan with your billions and billions of gold like you claim to have and buy shitty statted but blued 64 weapons, 68 weapons with a blue or 2, and 72 weapons, clean or with blues. Break them all and afterwards try to make the claim that stones arent common.

[VanTokkern]

Im with desoaltor and all who believe there are luck tabs. Ive seen one myself and never screened it, thought it wasnt that special back then. And about that, when 100 people say something and 3 others believe in the contrary, thats just simple human phychology, when one says/does something that others think is reasonable, they tend to believe in it, thus more and more people fall for it like a herd of sheep.

Luck Tabs HAVE existed and then have been set not to drop by JoyMax!

Thank you Tactical-Not-A-Sheep-Medic I think that brings the count up to about 8 ppl that have seen a lucky tablet. Lol all signs point to no, huh? You might want to shake that magic 8 ball again lol

I think what TacticalMedic tried to point out was that when one person (you) claims to have seen a lucky tablet others (Maxxus) will follow to THINK they've seen one.
And don't forget, a lot of people can't differiate tablets and stones, apparantly this is way too confusing for them to comprehend.
I'm not saying they don't exist, but it's very likely for some people to have put it into their heads that they have, including you.

And about luck stones, at one point I've had 9 luck stones in my storage and I've seen stalls full (12 slots) with luck stones, I see about 5 with one stroll through the Hotan stalls in Alps, and you claim to have seen 5 in the one year you have played Silkroad?

It seems that YOU are the one that's not very good with probability and statistics, particularly the statistics. Any statistician knows that you can't go by one observation for averages. You have seen 5 ever, that's the number you use for everyone, and you use a complete random number for luck tablet to luck stone ratio. It's just not making any sense..

And FYI, 5% and 35% stones do exist, they come from destroying items.. this is factual and common knowledge, another thing you seemed to have missed out on.
If you can global for luck tablets, I'm sure you can global for the 5% and 35% assimilation stones.

So far you've only proven what TacticalMedic pointed out. Say something and some people will follow.

As much as I would like to believe luck tablets have existed once, I simply can't.
If there's one thing I believe in it's human stupidity and untill you get some better proof than some random people claiming to have seen one, call me ignorant but I won't believe they do or ever have existed..

[reader]

in this entire thread, no one ever said that they always get stones from 6D and below. many people said 7D and 8D were the highest chance of obtaining a stone. you on the other hand made up that everyone here said we easily get stones from 6D and below. so this vid that you posted didnt prove anything that wasnt already stated by everyone in this thread. i too have gotten many 8D luck stones. never once have i gotten a TABLET from ANY breaking of any item. stones only. maybe you should try disjointing high degree weapons and see what everyone is trying to tell you.

[BaronSengir]

for all the noobs saying you can only get 1 stone WRONG a 8d item gave me a lucky stone and a 35% str stone and a crapload of elements

and there is no such thing as luck tab at least not in isro

[borat2]

agree with vantokkern (pssssst if i come on alps can you make my weapon +10? lol)

If those tablets existed i wonder why the level 80 cap patch should have changed anything about it
were those tablets in one of the events or what? usually such rare items are only gained in events (santa sets/ GDF and so on) i can`t believe an item such as a tablet a thing that is a common drop suddenly dissapeared out of the game, the secret of the luck stone was revealed by Joymax itself time to ask Morningdew what happened to the luck tablets then

-edit- those screenshot dont prove anything at all
if i globaled if someone has my pictures you would get random replies saying yes "YES LOL I HAXED YOUR PC AND FOUND NAKID PIX!1!!"

[VanTokkern]

agree with vantokkern (pssssst if i come on alps can you make my weapon +10? lol)

Sure, pay for all the luck stones, luck powders, elixers and silk and I'll make any + you want