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shadowman20875 wrote:
Megalomaniac wrote:Bladers own 8) 8) Just a fact :!:

bladders waste pots, Thats a fact
So does anyone who fights them. Thats a fact.
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Bladers own nothing, not even with sosun blade, they can't own a pure INT.

Tank does not mean ownage or pawnage. Just means, you can hit people for hella long time with no conclusion to the fight. Pretty dam boring to me.
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Xiao_xin wrote:Bladers own nothing, not even with sosun blade, they can't own a pure INT.

Tank does not mean ownage or pawnage. Just means, you can hit people for hella long time with no conclusion to the fight. Pretty dam boring to me.
Um, I own, or pawn, or whatever you want to call it, Pure INT all the time. They are easy 2 - 3 shot kills, and I only have a +5 blade. I have screenshots of myself killing a lvl 60+ nuker multiple times at lvl 56. So, unless you have actually tried playing as a blader, and would know first hand how things work, then you should stfu. ^_^
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They just do everythin to frik up current archers some more lol, like its not bad enough that bladers have shield, but give them a skill that reduces damage....my word....even the nukers that were easyish to kill are harder now, I guess running till its over will have to do.
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Sunaj wrote:They just do everythin to frik up current archers some more lol, like its not bad enough that bladers have shield, but give them a skill that reduces damage....my word....even the nukers that were easyish to kill are harder now, I guess running till its over will have to do.
After they get the new skills for bow, the bow will be better. For now though, bow isn't worth the sp. >.>
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unless your only doing cape fights every guild needs atleast 1 good tank, preferably a blade/shield player.they will be the backbone of your attack in a job. they r the ones who get sent in first 2 take fire.they may not do the most damage but if your fighting one and a nuker or archer hit u your done.the point is while your concentrating on killing him the players with less defense (but stronger attacks)can take u out and then move on to the next guy in rapid sucsession.most people tend 2 attack the first hostile they see. this leaves them open for a counter attack from the stronger hitters.just something 2 keep in mind next time your out doing a job.
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double post sry
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Xiao_xin wrote:
Zero_Doom wrote:
Xiao_xin wrote:Bladers own nothing, not even with sosun blade, they can't own a pure INT.

Tank does not mean ownage or pawnage. Just means, you can hit people for hella long time with no conclusion to the fight. Pretty dam boring to me.
Um, I own, or pawn, or whatever you want to call it, Pure INT all the time. They are easy 2 - 3 shot kills, and I only have a +5 blade. I have screenshots of myself killing a lvl 60+ nuker multiple times at lvl 56. So, unless you have actually tried playing as a blader, and would know first hand how things work, then you should stfu. ^_^


Made blade, lvl 60 during the 60 cap, knockdowns and chains maxed.

Have a fully farmed glaive, during the 70 cap, changed to blade for fun.

I've got more experience than you do with blades.

On the other hand, seems you have no experience at high lvl PvP. Only at the cap can you really see what each build do, sine that's when people put the most effort into their gears.

Conclusion, its the other way around, you don't know what you are talking about. BTW, have you fought a fully farmed pure STR lvl 80 blader with sosun +7 blade? Because I have.


Ivanhaus wrote:unless your only doing cape fights every guild needs atleast 1 good tank, preferably a blade/shield player.they will be the backbone of your attack in a job. they r the ones who get sent in first 2 take fire.they may not do the most damage but if your fighting one and a nuker or archer hit u your done.the point is while your concentrating on killing him the players with less defense (but stronger attacks)can take u out and then move on to the next guy in rapid sucsession.most people tend 2 attack the first hostile they see. this leaves them open for a counter attack from the stronger hitters.just something 2 keep in mind next time your out doing a job.


Wrong again, no guild needs a blader during a guild war or during a job fight. If the blade knocks down a player, pisses off everyone else who is trying to take down that player. Their chains, not much help. A glaive can easily tank 3-4 bladers.

You need a tank, its called a glaive. Takes a lot of dmg, deals dmg and the stun, helps whole lot more during a guild war or job right.

Why do you think there are so many bladers turning to glaives? The best bladers on Aege have done so already, MissCanada, Sup3rFox, and BattleAngel is about to as soon as he finds a decent a glaive.

Only reason to be a blade is because you love to tank, because even with a sosun blade, you can't kill another player with decent gears.

Also your strategy in guild war or job war obviously shows your lack of experience. Any good player knows, a blade can barely scratch your garments. Who cares if a blade attacks you. You go after that INT, archer or team up on a glaive, cause they are the ones who are going to kill you. After eveyone is dead, then you go after the blade. The blade is insignificant in my opinion.

Glaive and INT is the best combination for a guild war or job fight.
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I just ... LOL

Wrong again, no guild needs a blader during a guild war or during a job fight. If the blade knocks down a player, pisses off everyone else who is trying to take down that player. Their chains, not much help. A glaive can easily tank 3-4 bladers.

U say that because u dont know how to play with a blade. KD will give other blader the opportunity to do triple stab and stop the enemy's skill. See how long u can resist to 3 bladers that make u fall each time u stand up? The reason bladers are always ignored in job war because they dont know how to team up.

You need a tank, its called a glaive. Takes a lot of dmg, deals dmg and the stun, helps whole lot more during a guild war or job right.

The class which can take a lot of dmg is blader, the real tanker. It's because of it's block and defense and especially castle shield. 1k HP bonus from heuksal passive is not reason to make a glaiver to be the best tanker...

Why do you think there are so many bladers turning to glaives? The best bladers on Aege have done so already, MissCanada, Sup3rFox, and BattleAngel is about to as soon as he finds a decent a glaive.

There are a lot of glaiver changed to blader too.... Ppl changed to glaiver because it hunt faster and can kill in pvp, blader kill shit...

Glaive and INT is the best combination for a guild war or job fight.

INT? barely survive from a crit of an archer (that's only 1 archer O_O)
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Xiao_xin wrote:
Xiao_xin wrote:
Zero_Doom wrote:
Xiao_xin wrote:Bladers own nothing, not even with sosun blade, they can't own a pure INT.

Tank does not mean ownage or pawnage. Just means, you can hit people for hella long time with no conclusion to the fight. Pretty dam boring to me.
Um, I own, or pawn, or whatever you want to call it, Pure INT all the time. They are easy 2 - 3 shot kills, and I only have a +5 blade. I have screenshots of myself killing a lvl 60+ nuker multiple times at lvl 56. So, unless you have actually tried playing as a blader, and would know first hand how things work, then you should stfu. ^_^


Made blade, lvl 60 during the 60 cap, knockdowns and chains maxed.

Have a fully farmed glaive, during the 70 cap, changed to blade for fun.

I've got more experience than you do with blades.

On the other hand, seems you have no experience at high lvl PvP. Only at the cap can you really see what each build do, sine that's when people put the most effort into their gears.

Conclusion, its the other way around, you don't know what you are talking about. BTW, have you fought a fully farmed pure STR lvl 80 blader with sosun +7 blade? Because I have.


Ivanhaus wrote:unless your only doing cape fights every guild needs atleast 1 good tank, preferably a blade/shield player.they will be the backbone of your attack in a job. they r the ones who get sent in first 2 take fire.they may not do the most damage but if your fighting one and a nuker or archer hit u your done.the point is while your concentrating on killing him the players with less defense (but stronger attacks)can take u out and then move on to the next guy in rapid sucsession.most people tend 2 attack the first hostile they see. this leaves them open for a counter attack from the stronger hitters.just something 2 keep in mind next time your out doing a job.


Wrong again, no guild needs a blader during a guild war or during a job fight. If the blade knocks down a player, pisses off everyone else who is trying to take down that player. Their chains, not much help. A glaive can easily tank 3-4 bladers.

You need a tank, its called a glaive. Takes a lot of dmg, deals dmg and the stun, helps whole lot more during a guild war or job right.

Why do you think there are so many bladers turning to glaives? The best bladers on Aege have done so already, MissCanada, Sup3rFox, and BattleAngel is about to as soon as he finds a decent a glaive.

Only reason to be a blade is because you love to tank, because even with a sosun blade, you can't kill another player with decent gears.

Also your strategy in guild war or job war obviously shows your lack of experience. Any good player knows, a blade can barely scratch your garments. Who cares if a blade attacks you. You go after that INT, archer or team up on a glaive, cause they are the ones who are going to kill you. After eveyone is dead, then you go after the blade. The blade is insignificant in my opinion.

Glaive and INT is the best combination for a guild war or job fight.

so if a thief blader was attacking you during a trade you wouldn't attack him back? my point is when you get attacked by anyone your first response is to retaliate against that threat.if u dont see the rest of the threat until afterwards how do u go after them first? a tanks main job is 2 draw fire whether it's a blade or glavie build.and as for him knocking u down. that wouldnt bother me cuz i'm a s/s nuker. I'll just stab your a$$ as well and then grass walk away.and with 2 people stabbing u you probably wont get up. I know I'm lower lvl and this scenario is based on players of equal lvls. I know we have different opinions which are both substantiated and neither is gonna change there minds.I'm not saying a glavie is a poor tank,but in my opinion I think a blader for the most part is the better of the two.they both can follow up a nuke with a finishing blow and both can take a lot of damage but a blader can take that little bit extra that will pay off in the end.
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Xiao_xin wrote:
Zero_Doom wrote:
Xiao_xin wrote:Bladers own nothing, not even with sosun blade, they can't own a pure INT.

Tank does not mean ownage or pawnage. Just means, you can hit people for hella long time with no conclusion to the fight. Pretty dam boring to me.
Um, I own, or pawn, or whatever you want to call it, Pure INT all the time. They are easy 2 - 3 shot kills, and I only have a +5 blade. I have screenshots of myself killing a lvl 60+ nuker multiple times at lvl 56. So, unless you have actually tried playing as a blader, and would know first hand how things work, then you should stfu. ^_^


Made blade, lvl 60 during the 60 cap, knockdowns and chains maxed.

Have a fully farmed glaive, during the 70 cap, changed to blade for fun.

I've got more experience than you do with blades.

On the other hand, seems you have no experience at high lvl PvP. Only at the cap can you really see what each build do, sine that's when people put the most effort into their gears.

Conclusion, its the other way around, you don't know what you are talking about. BTW, have you fought a fully farmed pure STR lvl 80 blader with sosun +7 blade? Because I have.


Your right, I have no experience with high lvl pvp. It seems like a moot point though. I can kill int based characters in 2 - 3 shots every time all the way up to 63. Now then, if you want to try and back up your claims with some solid proof for the people, come to troy, and fight me in pvp. Show us that bladers suck hardcore. Show us how awesome pure int can possibly be, even though I know for a fact that they can't kill me.
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a blader has the chance,to COMPLETLY avoid a form of damage,something which glaives has yet to learn,their shield also gives them more defense,and kd is actually an offensive defense skill imo.
i've seen it so many times,a blader who maybe not survived the next nuke,but then kd'ing the nuker.as soon as the nuker is up again the blader is at full hp again.sure stun does the same thing,but kd procs a LOT more
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Say what you want about bladers, but when you're down to your last HP stack and they're still working on stack number #2, they're winning.
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ZeFrog wrote:Say what you want about bladers, but when your down to you're last HP stack and they're still working on stack number #2, they're winning.
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