Black Res is IMPOSSIBLE!!!

[Legs]

tl;dr is: black ress sux so lets kill it?

I can already imagine the multitude of players crying and whining about how JM/WM is just making the game more shitty or smthing and spamming about how the game sux more and more, that is to say that you are part of a minority against the skill...

I can't imagine anyone with a brain that would complain about the removal of black res. Most ppl agree that it's pointless and sucks.

Yep, only people that would miss it is turks that spam noob because they can 1 hit you in LC even though they are only lvl 68 while you are 85 and they have a SUN staff... (Yes it has happened and I have pics of it)

It was more of a 3 hit.

[apan]

Yeah, I'm INT. He has a SUN staff+7, and he used LC and invicible. I should also mention that I could kill him in one Lion Shout, but ofc he didn't care about that fact and never stopped calling me a noob and that I should delete my char.. God I hate the turks, may the civil wars destroy them all. I sure as hell aint helping them out by joining some peace army...

[XMoshe]

wow am i the only 1 that thinks reverse immolation is not a big deal? you picked a chinese char deal with it, yea they look cool but compared to a euro they are complete trash. u can try ur hardest but the fact is chinese just sucks. i killed a nova full str bow +8 with my 97 warrior/warlock. u may say yea well its warlock but the fact is i cant kill nova euro anything yet chinese i can destroy, why? cuz they suck, simple

Hmm I wonder how that comes, oh right...holy word/spell. Also I bet you used the glitch on him... Anyways, you try to kill someone in immolation as a euro. Pretty sure you won't be able to kill the guy either unless he's much lower lvl.

[JuelzSantana]

i never glitch lol i use stuns and duh its impossible to kill somebody in immolation but the fact is they already died lol they got rezzed and now u'll prolly die and get rezzed, is it cheap cuz they need immolation? yea its pretty farked up but i think it helps let people buff up so jerks dont spawn kill them

i mean its part of the game im not complaining about it lol as a warlock ive always been at a disadvantage but never complained, as chinese he is always at a disadvantage but he cant complain because he chose it

[XMoshe]

I don't think you get the point. Immolation makes it for an endless cycle where no ones wins, you waste pots, you waste time, but they, and you, keep coming back for more. It's not about the fact he's a chinese. I played both races and I hate immolation. That skill and the fact it's not about personal strength is why I don't like jobbing or group pvp.

[antics]

maybe if the black res only lasted say 30secnds. and cool down is 3minutes

[CeLL]

wow am i the only 1 that thinks reverse immolation is not a big deal? you picked a chinese char deal with it, yea they look cool but compared to a euro they are complete trash. u can try ur hardest but the fact is chinese just sucks. i killed a nova full str bow +8 with my 97 warrior/warlock. u may say yea well its warlock but the fact is i cant kill nova euro anything yet chinese i can destroy, why? cuz they suck, simple

so chinese characters cant be reverse immolated???

[Goseki]

lol @ Juelz

Funny, I'm a pure int chn char with normal gear, no nova +5 - +6. Only nova is wep and shield. Yet I've also managed to kill euros and chn with full nova gear. Just cuz you can kill someone doesn't really mean that much though. Some ppl are idiots and just copy better players thinking the same moves will work every time.Other ppl know how to play their chars.

And the glitch moshe was talking about was prob the sleep + skull. Ever since they removed that, I haven't had much problems with warlocks anymore...

[JuelzSantana]

double post, my bad!!

[JuelzSantana]

I don't think you get the point. Immolation makes it for an endless cycle where no ones wins, you waste pots, you waste time, but they, and you, keep coming back for more. It's not about the fact he's a chinese. I played both races and I hate immolation. That skill and the fact it's not about personal strength is why I don't like jobbing or group pvp.

its got use for party play tho ><

lol @ Juelz

Funny, I'm a pure int chn char with normal gear, no nova +5 - +6. Only nova is wep and shield. Yet I've also managed to kill euros and chn with full nova gear. Just cuz you can kill someone doesn't really mean that much though. Some ppl are idiots and just copy better players thinking the same moves will work every time.Other ppl know how to play their chars.

And the glitch moshe was talking about was prob the sleep + skull. Ever since they removed that, I haven't had much problems with warlocks anymore...

i never used that glitch lol but i do have 2 stuns from warlock and 2 from warrior which i abuse a lot ;D unless u have holy spell or something on all i need to do is stun you, put DOT for bleed and dull, division status impotent status and wheel bind, technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol

[DontAsk]

I agree, black ress is probably the most annoying skill in this game.
Fortress war is now played in full black ress, people just attack the structures in black ress and take the heart down. I think it should be completely removed or at least fixed.
For example, if the immolation it self only lasted 15 seconds, i think would be perfect, you should be able to buff yourself and be ready for battle in 15 seconds.
Another thing is a cleric should only be able to use Immolation every 5 minutes, that way they can use the regular ress skill, which makes the group pvp and fortress a lot more balanced. You wont be fighting their immolation, instead its truly based on skill and numbers.

Someone should write an angry letter, lol.

[roe2121]

juelz i have an int hybrid s/s nuker so far i the only build i really lose to has been a euro wiz and thats because they deal 3.5k damage on my 2.9k hp if i dont block as for the stuns you need to land them to do them. what if i blocked the attacks. see the stun thing is down to chance. on topic yes reverse immolation/oblation needs to be nerfed.

[Tasdik]

Absolutes > Oblation.

[Goseki]

Absolutes > Oblation.

1) Only euros have that, aka bard which is shit dmg and cleric.
2) In oblation, a pure int will have over 35k hp.
3) Pure str will have like over 100k hp.

ABS will do shit unless you have 5 clerics doing it at the same time.

[Tasdik]

Clerics win wars.

Whoever has more clerics, always wins.

[XMoshe]

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol

Awww...get over it lol

[JuelzSantana]

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol

Awww...get over it lol

what lol

[XMoshe]

It's a skill, just like snowshield or like vigors (which are a pot but people still bitch about it) they are in the game to be used so get over it if you can't handle an ice or fire wall xD It's not that hard to get past as warrior/lock.

[omier]

i guess u can stay optimistic, but think back to the last time joymax actually did any balancing in this game, or even change any class dramatically after updates. clearly joymax thinks they created a perfect game with perfect classes. only time they actually i've heard of JM changing any skill was the holy spell on ksro(100% resist down to like 50% or something).

JM has done more than that in other versions. They added many weapon restrictions to European skills, made the skills of the Chinese stronger and made Grass Walk faster. So now the question is, why don't they do this in Isro? Because most turks are wizzes who will start complaining about their huge disadvantages(though this update would be about balance) and quit so JM will then again lose silk buyers. Everything has always been about that.

i never glitch lol i use stuns and duh its impossible to kill somebody in immolation but the fact is they already died lol they got rezzed and now u'll prolly die and get rezzed, is it cheap cuz they need immolation? yea its pretty farked up but i think it helps let people buff up so jerks dont spawn kill them

i mean its part of the game im not complaining about it lol as a warlock ive always been at a disadvantage but never complained, as chinese he is always at a disadvantage but he cant complain because he chose it

So u mean u didn't choose to be a warlock? Everyone when choosing a build has to accept the disadvantages of that specific build. But Black Res is a disadvantage to everyone who doesn't get Black Ressed. It has fcked up all forms of group PvP.

[Tasdik]

It's a skill, just like snowshield or like vigors (which are a pot but people still bitch about it) they are in the game to be used so get over it if you can't handle an ice or fire wall xD It's not that hard to get past as warrior/lock.

Same goes for black ress.

[XMoshe]

It's a skill, just like snowshield or like vigors (which are a pot but people still bitch about it) they are in the game to be used so get over it if you can't handle an ice or fire wall xD It's not that hard to get past as warrior/lock.

Same goes for black ress.

You'd say that but unlike the walls there is no counter for immolation. It's a 2min waste, times 8, times x amount of times = hours upon hours of wasted time.

[apan]

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol

You sir, are an idiot.

EDIT: Sig'd

[CeLL]

It's a skill, just like snowshield or like vigors (which are a pot but people still bitch about it) they are in the game to be used so get over it if you can't handle an ice or fire wall xD It's not that hard to get past as warrior/lock.

Same goes for black ress.

what do you do to bring down the black res status???is there a trick of which no one was aware.
its cheap. its not really playing the game right, but its possible to do it so why not?

[apan]

It's a skill, just like snowshield or like vigors (which are a pot but people still bitch about it) they are in the game to be used so get over it if you can't handle an ice or fire wall xD It's not that hard to get past as warrior/lock.

Same goes for black ress.

what do you do to bring down the black res status???is there a trick of which no one was aware.
its cheap. its not really playing the game right, but its possible to do it so why not?

Well because it's most likely the most OP skill in the game when it comes to non-damage skills.

[Legs]

It was a while since I met someone as stupid as Juelz.

They should weaken the euros (alot) and take away their pot delay.
And take away that fckin skill.

[apan]

It was a while since I met someone as stupid as Juelz.

They should weaken the euros (alot) and take away their pot delay.
And take away that fckin skill.

Don't know if you noticed my new sig?

[CeLL]

i dont think he meant he walks away cause he cant deal with it. im pretty sure he walks away cause the other player cant move and he knows he could kill them but chooses not too. i think its funny as shit to leave an immobile character standing there screaming to let them attack you, lest they intercourse your family.

[apan]

i dont think he meant he walks away cause he cant deal with it. im pretty sure he walks away cause the other player cant move and he knows he could kill them but chooses not too. i think its funny as shit to leave an immobile character standing there screaming to let them attack you, lest they intercourse your family.

If you use Iceberg Wall the warlock can't put any spells on you, and can't remove it either since he has no phy. atk... So I stand my ground on this one.

[CeLL]

yes and if you walk away they cant move and attack you until its gone. so walk just far enough away and sit down and watch them cry.

[apan]

yes and if you walk away they cant move and attack you until its gone. so walk just far enough away and sit down and watch them cry.

Exactly, it's like "Oh noes he stunned me, better run out of range when it's over..." It's pathetic.