what chars still stand now?

[sn1kzZe]

I'm a 110 FF Warrior/Cleric with a nova 2h, just a normal +5 fb set.

I rape all other euros, every class, pvp vs other warriors is annoying and never ends!

Chinese classes the only build I have problems with is INT S/S, there is only one who can kill me and he full nova. Nukes me for 3x a nuke!

I do not use skins or bless in pvp or else I could probably own his aswell.

Int spear sucks, he is full nova 110 ff and I rape him before his 60% snow even runs out!

I have NEVER seen any build stand up after my double DD crit.

than you obviously dont know how to play your build right:

fully loaded warrior should have close to 60k hp correct? nukers best nukes are delayed, you could see them coming miles ahead, you as a warrior have 3 skills that could interrupt him, and you can even execute 2 of them before the nuke goes off.

and if 1 nuke hits you, you suppose to have healing cycle AND you can still sprint/kb/stun to recover properly.

ofcourse any standing char would die from int (wiz or nuker), but that never happens if you use all your skillset.

A s/s nuker with a good BR on the shield can cause problems for a warrior, also when they use firewall, makes it pretty hard to fight them.

now you are just making excuses, didnt you see me writing no firewall, no bless abuse pvp ?

on "normal" terms only. thats what were talking about.

sidenote: and if some tard pulls firewall on you, you still have 2! better kinds of walls (bless + skins).

and even if the guy has high BR and he even uses the 43% BR increase buff, you have 6 attacks to interrupt him (since he needs 2 nukes of 30k to kill you, you can do kb/sprint/stun x2 in that time). theres no way he will get consecutive 6 blocks.

[Amro]

well once i saw pvp between warrior cleric & glavier, both full nova, glavier had some pieces 10d sun, also glavie 10d i think
well that glavier survived double DD crit and also crit with that knockdown skill right after it, and then killed that warrior
that glavier won most of their pvps
that means, there is no best build like warrior/cleric, all are best and you can own everyone with your build

[Fiction]

well once i saw pvp between warrior cleric & glavier, both full nova, glavier had some pieces 10d sun, also glavie 10d i think
well that glavier survived double DD crit and also crit with that knockdown skill right after it, and then killed that warrior
that glavier won most of their pvps
that means, there is no best build like warrior/cleric, all are best and you can own everyone with your build

So how are wizards doing these days? Not many do 1v1? I remember back at 90 they'd almost 1 shot everyone then run to safe, but when I got online this cap I didn't really see any, and the ones I did see I could just 6-hit to death.

[Amro]

well once i saw pvp between warrior cleric & glavier, both full nova, glavier had some pieces 10d sun, also glavie 10d i think
well that glavier survived double DD crit and also crit with that knockdown skill right after it, and then killed that warrior
that glavier won most of their pvps
that means, there is no best build like warrior/cleric, all are best and you can own everyone with your build

So how are wizards doing these days? Not many do 1v1? I remember back at 90 they'd almost 1 shot everyone then run to safe, but when I got online this cap I didn't really see any, and the ones I did see I could just 6-hit to death.

wizards are not meant to 1vs1 pvps, deal with it
and meteor with LT can survive just full nova players

[sn1kzZe]

well once i saw pvp between warrior cleric & glavier, both full nova, glavier had some pieces 10d sun, also glavie 10d i think
well that glavier survived double DD crit and also crit with that knockdown skill right after it, and then killed that warrior
that glavier won most of their pvps
that means, there is no best build like warrior/cleric, all are best and you can own everyone with your build

thats very true, i think most STR types can survive DD crit.

about top build, thats why i ranked warrior and glavie on top, pvpv between the two could take 10 mins or so, but still warrior is more versatile and most of the pvp he will be the one dealing dmg (due to more rich skill set).

[jyushinshuu]

well once i saw pvp between warrior cleric & glavier, both full nova, glavier had some pieces 10d sun, also glavie 10d i think
well that glavier survived double DD crit and also crit with that knockdown skill right after it, and then killed that warrior
that glavier won most of their pvps
that means, there is no best build like warrior/cleric, all are best and you can own everyone with your build

who is that glaiver might be? cuz i used to play in greece back in 60-80cap.
force glavier?? he wears protector?

Glavier Used to be pvp kings until the euro update. I also think that rogue/lock are very strong in 1on1 pvp.

Double crit from warriors are deadly depending on timing. I know 1 player in our server pure int s/s that can tank warrior nova+10. He wears garments nova+7 and head+7. When i said he can tank means he can really TANK, he just stand still with now 60% on while the nova+10 warrior keeps attacking him, the warrior killed him after his now shield runs out.

[pizzagirl2008]

warrior/cleric was never the strongest build...just overrated and easy to use

double DD crits wont kill a full nova str in this cap since nova weapons = sos 11d
HOWEVER
no one can survive a prick crit or kd mortal wounds triple crit
therefore warrior/rogue still the best imo but only when a certain handful of ppl is playing it which is why build rarely gets recognised by majority of sro population.

[William-CL]

I'm thinking of capping a Wiz/bard, but at 101+ Start curse hearts and switch over to Wiz/Lock. Locks are so annoying to fight. But very fun to play as. Locks can often kill Wiz as well cause they stun em on their first skill leaving them open for all sorts of shit. And if they have LT on, they are fkced.

[jyushinshuu]

I'm thinking of capping a Wiz/bard, but at 101+ Start curse hearts and switch over to Wiz/Lock. Locks are so annoying to fight. But very fun to play as. Locks can often kill Wiz as well cause they stun em on their first skill leaving them open for all sorts of shit. And if they have LT on, they are fkced.

ur gonna die before even u cast ur debuff. warlock can only be good when sub by str or cleric sub.

[Amro]

warrior/cleric was never the strongest build...just overrated and easy to use

double DD crits wont kill a full nova str in this cap since nova weapons = sos 11d
HOWEVER
no one can survive a prick crit or kd mortal wounds triple crit
therefore warrior/rogue still the best imo but only when a certain handful of ppl is playing it which is why build rarely gets recognised by majority of sro population.

agreed
rogues are OP

[YangKang]

Top 3 IMO.

Rogue/Warrior
Warrior/Cleric
Blader/Force

[JuelzSantana]

bowers? they are weak as hell, i dont really know from where you get that bowers are strong
maybe they are strong coz they are good survivors ---> kb spammers
bowers are weak, deal with it, int s/s can kill bower easily, and warrior too
his skins + bless = 90 sec, int has 120sec snow shield, also warrior sometimes MUST switch weapon during skins --> skins removed
you
are
all
wrong

you just proved yourself wrong.. a bower could kb spam a warriors bless/skin and a int's snow shield easy..

and that prove their weakness

i dont see why people say its weak to use skills that are in the game for them to use.. jesus christ grow up.

[Amro]

i dont see why people say its weak to use skills that are in the game for them to use.. jesus christ grow up.

OKAY

[BuDo]

bowers? they are weak as hell, i dont really know from where you get that bowers are strong
maybe they are strong coz they are good survivors ---> kb spammers
bowers are weak, deal with it, int s/s can kill bower easily, and warrior too
his skins + bless = 90 sec, int has 120sec snow shield, also warrior sometimes MUST switch weapon during skins --> skins removed
you
are
all
wrong

you just proved yourself wrong.. a bower could kb spam a warriors bless/skin and a int's snow shield easy..

i dont see why people say its weak to use skills that are in the game for them to use.. jesus christ grow up.

+1

And if you were gonna fault a class for relying on a skill I'd call the warrior a weakling for using skills that doesn't belong to it (like healing with a cleric rod). At least the bower uses only the skills belonging to it's class.

[YangKang]

@ Above

When you PVP you FIGHT to WIN, not to surivive. Everyone can just make a bower and spam kb and surivive but whats the point? This is where I love to refer to vsro, they play with skill and restricted themself to use various skills as euro. iSRO lacks those players thats why sadly people think like "its my skill, nothing cheap with that"

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

@ Above

When you PVP you FIGHT to WIN, not to surivive. Everyone can just make a bower and spam kb and surivive but whats the point? This is where I love to refer to vsro, they play with skill and restricted themself to use various skills as euro. iSRO lacks those players thats why sadly people think like "its my skill, nothing cheap with that"

winning implies that you don't die...that's surviving

str based pvp by the lines of: "survive long enough to kill"
(but yes, that means they need real attacks once in a while to inflict enough damage)

int based pvp by the lines of: "kill before you wonder about surviving long enough"
(snow shield is helpful but limited)

[YangKang]

@ Above

When you PVP you FIGHT to WIN, not to surivive. Everyone can just make a bower and spam kb and surivive but whats the point? This is where I love to refer to vsro, they play with skill and restricted themself to use various skills as euro. iSRO lacks those players thats why sadly people think like "its my skill, nothing cheap with that"

winning implies that you don't die...that's surviving

str based pvp by the lines of: "survive long enough to kill"
(but yes, that means they need real attacks once in a while to inflict enough damage)

int based pvp by the lines of: "kill before you wonder about surviving long enough"
(snow shield is helpful but limited)

Winning is still standing while the enemys hp is 0. E.G. as a blader you can only accomplish this by having crazy damage. Thats how all the "noobs" think "even if we just hit 4k, keep going until he's annoyed and stops pvping." If you know that you cant win and the enemy just outdamages you, just lose. It kills the pvp if you just spam KB because you want to look strong not going down or because it helps your ego.

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

Winning is still standing while the enemys hp is 0. E.G. as a blader you can only accomplish this by having crazy damage. Thats how all the "noobs" think "even if we just hit 4k, keep going until he's annoyed and stops pvping." If you know that you cant win and the enemy just outdamages you, just lose. It kills the pvp if you just spam KB because you want to look strong not going down or because it helps your ego.

you are concentrating on the overusage of KB.

A KB once in a while to counter an opponent's attack is justified,
it helps survive tight spots and/or interrupts attacks with a long loading time.

We all agree that spamming it doesn't help in any other way than to delay damage and enrage everyone else.
people doing that won't contribute positively to ingame fun or their reputation and most importantly: they won't kill you that way.
If you have greedy underaged kids with a god complex(either triggered by religion, ego or group mentality) you will have them exploit the freedom they have to the dismay of other players.

[BuDo]

Nearly every class has available to them a skill (KB/KD/Stun/Heals etc) which they can use to get themselves out of an hairy situation. It's only natural to use them.

You don't spend all that SP on these skills and only use it in accordance to how other people think you should. Common sense dictates that u use it whenever and however the situation calls for.

[Amro]

ok a little bump
a full int nuker s/s in normal garment +6 can survive double crit with daredevil with snow shield on (nova 2h)