It's a problem if you want it to be a problem

[[SD]Twysta]

joymax does care but the problem is they cant make a move - because they can and it is SO-DAMN-EASY - beacuse they will lose 70% of their entire income instantly.

more money or statisfied customers - which one would u chose ?

No the question here is which one would you choose?

its not a person to person question, every situation u could ask that question differs

its about jm
a huge gaming industry company with an incredible income of people that are still officially against the ToS.

not saying u guys are wrong, in fact, the theory is quite good but its simple, JM is one big fcking failure, they go for money over customer statisfaction, people will always whine your not gonna change that, nobody is.

It's easy for you to make a statement from the outside looking in but take a minute in their shoes and stop avoiding the question.

Which would you choose as CEO of Joymax Ent.?
a) Customer satisfaction
b) Income

Ok i will give you a good answer.

In the beginning of SRO, this question would have been nonsense bcause there wasnt such a big income on stakes, right?
If they would have banned botters straight away, and made a really popular game, silkroad could be the best fckin mmo out there, no doubt. Look at the art, the ideas, the gameplay, the updates, etc.

If they would have gone for customer statisfaction BEFORE sro became bot infested they would have the same income - word.

Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

If it's a problem for you, it's a problem for you and you only. If others think the same, it's a problem for them and them only.

Wait, wait wait, lemme get this straight... You dont see anything wrong with botting and it doesnt annoy you in any way?

Nothing wrong with botting and it's not annoying to me. All botters have done is something that computer part manufacturers have done long ago. Replace the people with robots.

ok now im done here, simple and cold, if u say theres nothing wrong with botters your not worth my time. it was obvious from the start , true legits wouldnt make such bullshit topics

[Naigasakis_Rebirth]

well yea i gues yourright about that but like u said, its every person its own problem.

and besides that, the reason is fairly good.

if silkroad would have been 100% complete before release, lots of more people could work on customer statisfaction, in that case none of this would have happened.

I couldn't agree with you more and I am just as sad as you to see it in this state when I can imagine what it would be like otherwise. But the fact remains, it is how it is, and unless there is a real and by real I mean profitable way to change it this is the condition in which it will remain.

[[SD]Twysta]

well yea i gues yourright about that but like u said, its every person its own problem.

and besides that, the reason is fairly good.

if silkroad would have been 100% complete before release, lots of more people could work on customer statisfaction, in that case none of this would have happened.

I couldn't agree with you more and I am just as sad as you to see it in this state when I can imagine what it would be like otherwise. But the fact remains, it is how it is, and unless there is a real and by real I mean profitable way to change it this is the condition in which it will remain.

exactly, your right, it might be unfixable. but dont forget, the people whining arent bad - their good, they love silkroad, they dream of bot free sro, it is simply just NOT going to happen most likely, but not a reason to give up in my opinion.

I play since it came out, had a few short breaks but i came back. i love sro more then any other person , i still have a little hope left in JM, i'm not afraid to say that bcause thers nothing wrong with it.

I have to go to college btw,

bottom line is,

joymax didn't put time in fighting growth of botters when it was still minor problem. bcaeuse of that, more bots came. all those bots buy silk and meanwhile JM is busy making updates. Now its completely unreversable for jm and its just a dead end.
Still isn't a reason to stop whining.
I see it as a good thing.
alltho i do see it as hope in a lost case, i still think whining is o.k.

[Naigasakis_Rebirth]

I admire your optimism but fear that your lack of limitation might lead you to terminal disappointment.

[sama98b]

Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

If it's a problem for you, it's a problem for you and you only. If others think the same, it's a problem for them and them only.

Wait, wait wait, lemme get this straight... You dont see anything wrong with botting and it doesnt annoy you in any way?

Nothing wrong with botting and it's not annoying to me. All botters have done is something that computer part manufacturers have done long ago. Replace the people with robots.

Sounds like you openly support botting on this forum.

Rules:

1) Be a bot supporter. Change your avatar to the pointy-finger bot symbol. Put "0x33" somewhere in your sig. Talk openly about, admit to, or suggest botting in a thread. Ask about how to buy, offer to sell, or post links to bot clients, etc. DOING ANY OF THESE THINGS WILL RESULT IN AN INSTANT BAN. There will be no warnings. There will be no discussion. There is ZERO tolerance.


Now it is up to the mods.

[Temptation]

ok now im done here, simple and cold, if u say theres nothing wrong with botters your not worth my time. it was obvious from the start , true legits wouldnt make such bullshit topics

People who can deal with stuff would.

Sounds like you openly support botting on this forum.

I don't support botting and I don't support the game itself. Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm supporting the fact that "it is what it is". Not "BOTTING RULES"

[Naigasakis_Rebirth]

Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

If it's a problem for you, it's a problem for you and you only. If others think the same, it's a problem for them and them only.

Wait, wait wait, lemme get this straight... You dont see anything wrong with botting and it doesnt annoy you in any way?

Nothing wrong with botting and it's not annoying to me. All botters have done is something that computer part manufacturers have done long ago. Replace the people with robots.

Sounds like you openly support botting on this forum.

Rules:

1) Be a bot supporter. Change your avatar to the pointy-finger bot symbol. Put "0x33" somewhere in your sig. Talk openly about, admit to, or suggest botting in a thread. Ask about how to buy, offer to sell, or post links to bot clients, etc. DOING ANY OF THESE THINGS WILL RESULT IN AN INSTANT BAN. There will be no warnings. There will be no discussion. There is ZERO tolerance.


Now it is up to the mods.

Saying there is nothing wrong with it doesnt make him a supporter. However you need to learn to understand that some people are sarcastic. Personally I think you should be banned for being narrow minded.

[Casey613]

and the point of this is?

Every thing u posted is still happening when its not supposed to.

O NOES...my house is burning down I'm going to sit here and complain about it instead of leaving

A-fuxin-Mazing logic you have

[Temptation]

I can tell that many of you support the game and are huge fans of it. For those people, please just know that the game won't be likely to change and bots are part of it from here on out (mostly, it could change though)

[[SD]Twysta]

I admire your optimism but fear that your lack of limitation might lead you to terminal disappointment.

lol i know

people might think im dumb but i will just never give up

[WhereIsOsama]

Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

If it's a problem for you, it's a problem for you and you only. If others think the same, it's a problem for them and them only.

Wait, wait wait, lemme get this straight... You dont see anything wrong with botting and it doesnt annoy you in any way?

Nothing wrong with botting and it's not annoying to me. All botters have done is something that computer part manufacturers have done long ago. Replace the people with robots.

Pure comedy. I assume you have been reading off the website Joke.com far too much.

Considering a robot operated assembly line and a mmorpg bot has absolutely zero connection in regards of "replacing a human", you rightfully earn the right to stop typing.

Only some one who has no maturity and little reasonable logic would believe in such a concept. And people wonder why the SRO community is one of the worst.

Have a nice day.

[Temptation]

That was complete bullshit and you know it, WIO. Please explain YOUR logic as to why you believe that I have no maturity and no logic.

[Niton]

Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

If it's a problem for you, it's a problem for you and you only. If others think the same, it's a problem for them and them only.

Wait, wait wait, lemme get this straight... You dont see anything wrong with botting and it doesnt annoy you in any way?

Nothing wrong with botting and it's not annoying to me. All botters have done is something that computer part manufacturers have done long ago. Replace the people with robots.

Sounds like you openly support botting on this forum.

Rules:

1) Be a bot supporter. Change your avatar to the pointy-finger bot symbol. Put "0x33" somewhere in your sig. Talk openly about, admit to, or suggest botting in a thread. Ask about how to buy, offer to sell, or post links to bot clients, etc. DOING ANY OF THESE THINGS WILL RESULT IN AN INSTANT BAN. There will be no warnings. There will be no discussion. There is ZERO tolerance.


Now it is up to the mods.

He does not support botting, He just mention that there is nothing wrong. As if it does not entirely says that he supports bot, its just his thinking towards the idea of botting. He accepted the realistic of bot enviro, he does not support it.

He does not violate the rule

[Niton]

Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

If it's a problem for you, it's a problem for you and you only. If others think the same, it's a problem for them and them only.

Wait, wait wait, lemme get this straight... You dont see anything wrong with botting and it doesnt annoy you in any way?

Nothing wrong with botting and it's not annoying to me. All botters have done is something that computer part manufacturers have done long ago. Replace the people with robots.

Pure comedy. I assume you have been reading off the website Joke.com far too much.

Considering a robot operated assembly line and a mmorpg bot has absolutely zero connection in regards of "replacing a human", you rightfully earn the right to stop typing.

Only some one who has no maturity and little reasonable logic would believe in such a concept. And people wonder why the SRO community is one of the worst.

Have a nice day.

no maturity and little reasonable logic

There is no maturity in offending people, you accuse people, but look at the mirror of yourselves, before you turn people violent.[/b]

[torinchibi]

Can you all ease off on the bot supporting please... Goldbots ARE a problem. Bots ARE a problem. CCFing IS a problem, and gold buying IS an even bigger problem. If you choose to ignore those, so be it, but don't go telling people they are not a problem. You Farking grind on blue mobs, I would rather grind where I want to, log in when I want to, and earn my way into that high 70's group. Sure, I am tired of whiners, but you wouldn't have those if the problems didn't exist.

If I was CEO, like most reasonable CEOs I would choose customer satisfaction. Why? Because more satisfied customers results in more people buying silk. Not people boycotting it because there is no point to buy silk and lvl faster if some bot can do it even without silk.

Then again, wasting words on head strong mobs of people is chucking a raw steak in a gold fish's face. Dumbass gaming community sucks about as much as the other problems of JoyMax. Grow up and learn some morals, since you obviously have none.

[WhereIsOsama]

That was complete bullshit and you know it, WIO. Please explain YOUR logic as to why you believe that I have no maturity and no logic.

First off, you just showed your immaturity by cursing. Learn how to conduct yourself as an adult before your use profanity.

Secondly, anyone mature does not have to prove their "logic" by posting a "whine" post about people who "whine".

Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

I assume you have so much logic that you can not take the time to read what you type.

You are basically complaining about "whiners". And a "complaint" is an synonym for "whine". Thus you are making yourself look like the same exact thing you are typing against, a whiner.

Have a nice day, and please improve your diction. Cursing only makes you look less creditable.

[Temptation]

Can you all ease off on the bot supporting please... Goldbots ARE a problem. Bots ARE a problem. CCFing IS a problem, and gold buying IS an even bigger problem. If you choose to ignore those, so be it, but don't go telling people they are not a problem. You Farking grind on blue mobs, I would rather grind where I want to, log in when I want to, and earn my way into that high 70's group. Sure, I am tired of whiners, but you wouldn't have those if the problems didn't exist.

This is where my mindset differs greatly from yours. Many people live in optimism/pessimism or realism. Like an organized religion or atheist. Your mindset (no offense...honestly don't get mad ) is pessimism. Goldbots, CCF, bots, and goldbuying are problems in your mind because it's something that bothers you.

Problems are:

trouble: sources of difficulty

a question or circumstance that involves difficulty or uncertainty.

The reason I believe that they are not problems in my mind is because they don't give me difficulty. SRO players have a tendency to refuse to adapt.

[Temptation]

That was complete bullshit and you know it, WIO. Please explain YOUR logic as to why you believe that I have no maturity and no logic.

First off, you just showed your immaturity by cursing. Learn how to conduct yourself as an adult before your use profanity.

Secondly, anyone mature does not have to prove their "logic" by posting a "whine" post about people who "whine".

Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

I assume you have so much logic that you can not take the time to read what you type.

You are basically complaining about "whiners". And a "complaint" is an synonym for "whine". Thus you are making yourself look like the same exact thing you are typing against, a whiner.

Have a nice day, and please improve your diction. Cursing only makes you look less creditable.

The second part is very much true. I know I'm whining. Don't assume I'm stupid. I'm 'whining' about people who whine about the game. Please improve your reading comprehension. If you think cursing makes people unbelievable, please know that you'll see more once you get out of 5th grade, thanks.

If Albert Einstein threw out the equation of E=MC^2 without his proof, how would people accept it? Note that all you have done so far is flame others for their freedom of speech. That's freedom of speech as well, but is it good use?

[Niton]

The reason I believe that they are not problems in my mind is because they don't give me difficulty. SRO players have a tendency to refuse to adapt.

They refuse to adapt since most of them are non-realistic, you want a game without bot is not a game you're playing with bots, because that differs you from your "want to dream playing without bots" and "not wanting of playing with bots". Hence, you want it without bots, if joymax cant help it then you have to live with it!

Note that all you have done so far is flame others for their freedom of speech. That's freedom of speech as well, but is it good use?

Like my sig says

[andrejat]

Problems don't exist because you want them to exist.

They exist because certain people allow them to.

Like racists.

[Temptation]

Problems don't exist because you want them to exist.

They exist because certain people allow them to.

Like racists.

Kinda. There's a flaw though. I say my shirt has a hole that nobody can see. You say it's no problem. I say it is. Solution? Problem or no problem?

[andrejat]

Problems don't exist because you want them to exist.

They exist because certain people allow them to.

Like racists.

Kinda. There's a flaw though. I say my shirt has a hole that nobody can see. You say it's no problem. I say it is. Solution? Problem or no problem?

That isn't a problem, that's being insane.

[Temptation]

Problems don't exist because you want them to exist.

They exist because certain people allow them to.

Like racists.

Kinda. There's a flaw though. I say my shirt has a hole that nobody can see. You say it's no problem. I say it is. Solution? Problem or no problem?

That isn't a problem, that's being insane.

Acceptable retort, well done.

[malecka]

come to zeus and u rly dont have anything else to do xcept move/watch or cry..

[Temptation]

I'm already in Zeus.

[andrejat]

I'm already in Zeus.

I'm sorry

[Temptation]

I'm already in Zeus.

I'm sorry

[Niton]

come to zeus and u rly dont have anything else to do xcept move/watch or cry..

Powerful character, does not determine a powerful player

[andrejat]

come to zeus and u rly dont have anything else to do xcept move/watch or cry..

Powerful character, does not determine a powerful player

HHAHAHHAHAHAH

What game are you playing?

[Temptation]

come to zeus and u rly dont have anything else to do xcept move/watch or cry..

Powerful character, does not determine a powerful player

Even though that was completely unrelated, I'll add my part. There's no use in having a big weapon if you can't aim it properly.