It's a problem if you want it to be a problem

Temptation · Post by **Temptation** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:10 am

Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

If it's a problem for you, it's a problem for you and you only. If others think the same, it's a problem for them and them only.

Naigasakis_Rebirth · Post by **Naigasakis_Rebirth** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:15 am

Temptation wrote:Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

If it's a problem for you, it's a problem for you and you only. If others think the same, it's a problem for them and them only.

Temptation you are OFFICIALLY my hero =)

Temptation · Post by **Temptation** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:15 am

Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
Temptation wrote:Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

If it's a problem for you, it's a problem for you and you only. If others think the same, it's a problem for them and them only.

Temptation you are OFFICIALLY my hero =)

Glad to help

FliiipZ · Post by **FliiipZ** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:16 am

Damn, Your so fckin right.

andrejat · Post by **andrejat** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:16 am

Temptation wrote:Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

If it's a problem for you, it's a problem for you and you only. If others think the same, it's a problem for them and them only.

Wow, I love the "move if your so legit" part.

That made me cry , because- no one ever moves to a new spot. Literally.

[SD]Twysta · Post by **[SD]Twysta** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:18 am

and the point of this is?

Every thing u posted is still happening when its not supposed to.

Naigasakis_Rebirth · Post by **Naigasakis_Rebirth** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:19 am

[SD]Twysta wrote:and the point of this is?

Every thing u posted is still happening when its not supposed to.

O NOES...my house is burning down I'm going to sit here and complain about it instead of leaving

A-fuxin-Mazing logic you have

Temptation · Post by **Temptation** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:19 am

[SD]Twysta wrote:and the point of this is?

Every thing u posted is still happening when its not supposed to.

There's never a supposed to or not supposed to when there's not a law. It's not like botting will earn you 5 years of prison for every level gained.

Mcclane · Post by **Mcclane** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:20 am

LMFAO couldn't have said it better

[SD]Twysta · Post by **[SD]Twysta** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:21 am

Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
[SD]Twysta wrote:and the point of this is?

Every thing u posted is still happening when its not supposed to.

O NOES...my house is burning down I'm going to sit here and complain about it instead of leaving

A-fuxin-Mazing logic you have

that is nothing like sro's situation, at least bring a decent argument to the table if ur gonna debate

Temptation wrote:
[SD]Twysta wrote:and the point of this is?

Every thing u posted is still happening when its not supposed to.

There's never a supposed to or not supposed to when there's not a law. It's not like botting will earn you 5 years of prison for every level gained.

true but still far from being a good reason to bot, simple.

Niton · Post by **Niton** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:22 am

There is always freedom to speak your own will, because that freedom makes people happy. Who cares if you bot, nor if you are a legit. We cannot control human's greed or self-control. You cannot control people's immorality, or individual's emotions. There is always people who will do things right, and wrong.

ThatBluePerson · Post by **ThatBluePerson** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:23 am

There are no spots to move to, and I would love to put you down but I'm not in the mood.

Temptation · Post by **Temptation** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:23 am

Niton wrote:There is always freedom to speak your own will, because that freedom makes people happy. Who cares if you bot, nor if you are a legit. We cannot control human's greed or self-control. You cannot controls people's immorality, or individual's emotions. There is always people who will do things right, and wrong.

In this case, there are way too many people doing things wrong.

andrejat · Post by **andrejat** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:23 am

[SD]Twysta wrote:
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
[SD]Twysta wrote:and the point of this is?

Every thing u posted is still happening when its not supposed to.

O NOES...my house is burning down I'm going to sit here and complain about it instead of leaving

A-fuxin-Mazing logic you have

that is nothing like sro's situation, at least bring a decent argument to the table if ur gonna debate

Let me take a shot at this...

Joymax stopped caring because they realized even if they just watch their servers, people will still play because humans are naturally inclined to cheat, leading to botting, leading to buying silk, leading to wealth for joymax.

Joymax, the hub of happiness.

Temptation · Post by **Temptation** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:24 am

ThatBluePerson wrote:There are no spots to move to, and I would love to put you down but I'm not in the mood.

If there's no spot to move to, it's obviously a problem for you. There's always a spot to move to. Grind blue if you have to.

Naigasakis_Rebirth · Post by **Naigasakis_Rebirth** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:24 am

[SD]Twysta wrote:
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
[SD]Twysta wrote:and the point of this is?

Every thing u posted is still happening when its not supposed to.

O NOES...my house is burning down I'm going to sit here and complain about it instead of leaving

A-fuxin-Mazing logic you have

that is nothing like sro's situation, at least bring a decent argument to the table if ur gonna debate

Twista the situations are identical its simply your perception of the situation that allows you to deny their connection on any level. The point is clear and simple; if YOU have an issue with bots then YOU should leave don't sit around complaining hoping something will change.

I'd figure you to intelligent for false hope, don't prove me wrong.

Optimism is an excuse to be foolish.

[SD]Twysta · Post by **[SD]Twysta** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:25 am

joymax does care but the problem is they cant make a move - because they can and it is SO-DAMN-EASY - beacuse they will lose 70% of their entire income instantly.

more money or statisfied customers - which one would u chose ?

Niton · Post by **Niton** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:26 am

Temptation wrote:
Niton wrote:There is always freedom to speak your own will, because that freedom makes people happy. Who cares if you bot, nor if you are a legit. We cannot control human's greed or self-control. You cannot controls people's immorality, or individual's emotions. There is always people who will do things right, and wrong.

In this case, there are way too many people doing things wrong.

true

Temptation · Post by **Temptation** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:26 am

Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:Optimism is an excuse to be foolish.

+99999. Not to get off topic or anything, but optimism vs. pessimism vs. realism goes like this:

No nice or mean, good or bad. There's just liars (nice people) and brutally honest ones (mean people), people you hate (bad) and people you love (good).

Naigasakis_Rebirth · Post by **Naigasakis_Rebirth** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:27 am

[SD]Twysta wrote:joymax does care but the problem is they cant make a move - because they can and it is SO-DAMN-EASY - beacuse they will lose 70% of their entire income instantly.

more money or statisfied customers - which one would u chose ?

No the question here is which one would you choose?

Temptation · Post by **Temptation** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:29 am

[SD]Twysta wrote:joymax does care but the problem is they cant make a move - because they can and it is SO-DAMN-EASY - beacuse they will lose 70% of their entire income instantly.

more money or statisfied customers - which one would u chose ?

Let me throw more Confucius crap at you. People will try to look like they are helping others. In the end, it's human instinct that drives the purpose towards themselves. Joymax won't help. And the move they make will screw things up, no matter what choice they choose.

FliiipZ · Post by **FliiipZ** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:29 am

Hmm, I would choose Satisfied Customer = Money.

[SD]Twysta · Post by **[SD]Twysta** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:31 am

Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
[SD]Twysta wrote:joymax does care but the problem is they cant make a move - because they can and it is SO-DAMN-EASY - beacuse they will lose 70% of their entire income instantly.

more money or statisfied customers - which one would u chose ?

No the question here is which one would you choose?

its not a person to person question, every situation u could ask that question differs

its about jm
a huge gaming industry company with an incredible income of people that are still officially against the ToS.

not saying u guys are wrong, in fact, the theory is quite good but its simple, JM is one big fcking failure, they go for money over customer statisfaction, people will always whine your not gonna change that, nobody is.

FliiipZ wrote:Hmm, I would choose Satisfied Customer = Money.

exactly, but now its gone too far, botters will most likely quit if jm would really hammer them all , so jm doesnt do shit it would be a bigger loss in the end, way bigger

thats the final line tbh..

Temptation · Post by **Temptation** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:32 am

[SD]Twysta wrote:
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
[SD]Twysta wrote:joymax does care but the problem is they cant make a move - because they can and it is SO-DAMN-EASY - beacuse they will lose 70% of their entire income instantly.

more money or statisfied customers - which one would u chose ?

No the question here is which one would you choose?

its not a person to person question, every situation u could ask that question differs

its about jm
a huge gaming industry company with an incredible income of people that are still officially against the ToS.

not saying u guys are wrong, in fact, the theory is quite good but its simple, JM is one big fcking failure, they go for money over customer statisfaction, people will always whine your not gonna change that, nobody is.

I'm not trying to stop whining, just saying that those who whine are trying to get others to whine with them. Useless.

Niton · Post by **Niton** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:33 am

The problem here is negligence, Negligence of customer to appreciate, negligence of joymax to mend that regulations enforcement that has been established. This will cause chain reaction of your resentment, and bots non-stop issue.

Naigasakis_Rebirth · Post by **Naigasakis_Rebirth** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:33 am

[SD]Twysta wrote:
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:
[SD]Twysta wrote:joymax does care but the problem is they cant make a move - because they can and it is SO-DAMN-EASY - beacuse they will lose 70% of their entire income instantly.

more money or statisfied customers - which one would u chose ?

No the question here is which one would you choose?

its not a person to person question, every situation u could ask that question differs

its about jm
a huge gaming industry company with an incredible income of people that are still officially against the ToS.

not saying u guys are wrong, in fact, the theory is quite good but its simple, JM is one big fcking failure, they go for money over customer statisfaction, people will always whine your not gonna change that, nobody is.

It's easy for you to make a statement from the outside looking in but take a minute in their shoes and stop avoiding the question.

Which would you choose as CEO of Joymax Ent.?
a) Customer satisfaction
b) Income

DragonTalon · Post by **DragonTalon** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:34 am

Temptation wrote:Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

If it's a problem for you, it's a problem for you and you only. If others think the same, it's a problem for them and them only.

Wait, wait wait, lemme get this straight... You dont see anything wrong with botting and it doesnt annoy you in any way?

Temptation · Post by **Temptation** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:34 am

Niton wrote:The problem here is negligence, Negligence of customer to appreciate, negligence of joymax to mend that regulations enforcement that has been established. This will cause chain reaction of your resentment, and bots non-stop issue.

I would say negligence and pure laziness. It's not just that they aren't admitting errors, they're not gonna fix them if it's recognized anyways. Right now JM is still an error, going into a mistake. Fix the damn error so it's not a mistake.

[SD]Twysta · Post by **[SD]Twysta** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:35 am

well yea i gues yourright about that but like u said, its every person its own problem.

and besides that, the reason is fairly good.

if silkroad would have been 100% complete before release, lots of more people could work on customer statisfaction, in that case none of this would have happened.

Temptation · Post by **Temptation** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:36 am

DragonTalon wrote:
Temptation wrote:Whine in your head is what I'm saying. Bots aren't a problem, they just like the game so much that they want to play without playing. Goldbots aren't a problem, just grind at a different spot if you're so legit. Server traffic isn't a problem, you're just addicted to the game and that's still an addiction. Joymax customer service isn't a problem, it's just a FREE game.

If it's a problem for you, it's a problem for you and you only. If others think the same, it's a problem for them and them only.
Wait, wait wait, lemme get this straight... You dont see anything wrong with botting and it doesnt annoy you in any way?

Nothing wrong with botting and it's not annoying to me. All botters have done is something that computer part manufacturers have done long ago. Replace the people with robots.

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