Castle Seige: Why I'm not Excited

[Carnophage]

1st, You do realize that with the fortress comes 90 cap as well. Legend 6 in kSRO,which included the fortress gave them 90 cap, .

What are you babbling about man. kSRO has had 90 cap for like 2 years before the fortress update.

[mosiac]

Wello, do you EVER make ANY post thats not some dark depressed shit about how shit sucks in sro? Someone find me a positive post by wello and i will give them a huge freaking cookie.

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic ... highlight=

[Wello27]

1st, You do realize that with the fortress comes 90 cap as well. Legend 6 in kSRO,which included the fortress gave them 90 cap, .

What are you babbling about man. kSRO has had 90 cap for like 2 years before the fortress update.

Make that almost 3 years.

When iSRO got 60 cap, Ksro had already beenn at 90 cap for a year

[Azilius]

LOL @ everyone saying 'Stop whining and lick JM's ass'

Do you not realize that no 90 cap means there will still be an imbalance between bots w/ suns and legits?

90 cap = no SoX = Everyone (eventually) could be balanced (Hardcore legits can match botters)
80 cap = bots full of sun, legits with..a few

If it's not VERY obvious as to why this update could completely **** over legits in every single way then please, throw your head at a wall.

[Fat_Smurf]

LOL @ everyone saying 'Stop whining and lick JM's ass'

Do you not realize that no 90 cap means there will still be an imbalance between bots w/ suns and legits?

90 cap = no SoX = Everyone (eventually) could be balanced (Hardcore legits can match botters)
80 cap = bots full of sun, legits with..a few

If it's not VERY obvious as to why this update could completely **** over legits in every single way then please, throw your head at a wall.

lol on 90 cap sun older will sell their sun and buy new awesome gear...

[Gman22]

whah whah whah pout pout pout

Sounds like a personal problem to me.

[Carnophage]

Do you not realize that no 90 cap means there will still be an imbalance between bots w/ suns and legits?

That will never dissappear. 90 will bring new sun. And even if the drop rate is not as high as on 80 cap there will still be an imbalance between those who had sun and those who did not.

[Barotix]

yes there are problems, but these problems will be addressed. joymax is rising up [in my eyes] and i will support them, but not with my money. [i will support them with money when i hit lvl 40 XD]

[Azilius]

Do you not realize that no 90 cap means there will still be an imbalance between bots w/ suns and legits?

That will never dissappear. 90 will bring new sun. And even if the drop rate is not as high as on 80 cap there will still be an imbalance between those who had sun and those who did not.

It won't be half as imbalanced as it is now..notice how there are a fraction of the sun drops since Joymax fixed the rate?

lol on 90 cap sun older will sell their sun and buy new awesome gear...

You realize it'll take time for awesome gear to come out giving legits a much better chance? The sun drop rate won't be high either, making it even more balanced. With the coming of Castle Siege without 90 cap the botters/goldbuyers only get better and better and the legits get less and less.

[Disturbed]

lmao@ the whining bitches

they give us awesome update and ur still crying, you guys should slit ur wirst and go to bed

+10 yeah dont like this game then it leave

It's not the game it's the way it's run dumb shit.
This is their way of keeping the customers happy:
--------------
People complain of numerous problems
--------------
Joymax throws an update on because it
requires very little if any work while still
leaving the same problems as before.
------------------------------------------
Stop using the same damn sentence "If you don't
like it leave". It's not the game itself it's all the little things wrong with it.

[ThisIsAvalon]

Taxes only work on saturday from 00:00 till 23:59

Aren't taxes set on saturday and effective the rest of the week?

you are correct sir....

OT: it'll be bot guild vs bot guild anyway...theres no legit union large enough on any server to compete with the bot population...prove me wrong if you disagree

Venus..... Venus........ Venus........Venus........Venus?

[DarkEagle]

They could have 90 cap or higher before the Castle Seige .

[Carnophage]

It won't be half as imbalanced as it is now..notice how there are a fraction of the sun drops since Joymax fixed the rate?

They fixed the rate to late. Servers were allready full of sun. I hope they will not increase the rate in which sun drops at the start of 90 cap.
Cause then indeed it will be a lot better balanced then it is now.

We will just have to wait and see.

[ericxdeath]

Now:

Mkarru, first time I agree with a post of his long time.

You all who are excited are complete hypocrites. You whine about bots, how screwed up the economy is, the gold bots, gold buying and the CCFing.

Joymax anounces Castle Seige and you start kissing ass.

1). Bots. If you don't fix bots it ruins any update that Joymax will release. Already we see in the Honor Point system only hardcore botters have Honor Suns and have the top Honor Point rankings, aka Honor Buffs.

2). Gold Buying. Destroys the economy. Goldy buyers will always have the best gear, gears that are usually unattainable by playing Legit
- Those of you who say making money is easy. MORONS, you can't make that much if it weren't for the gold buyers inflating the enconomy

3). Bot/Gold Union will win. Bots are majority of the server by 80%. Yes legits ban together with your +5 weapons and fight 80% of the server with their Suns and+7 +9 +11. Yeah that sounds awsome. Well legtis we have euros, we have strategy.
- Right botters are stupid. They don't know your strategy or have euros.
- Get real, this is SRO, its not game that requires intelligence.

4). Taxes. Taxes on everything. You think pots are expensive now? Yeah, wait until you have to pay 20% tax on pots. Repair weapons. When you buy gears. When you buy trade goods.
- This 20% of your gold will go to the Botters / Gold Buying Unions
If Castle Seige does what I think it will do to SRO, I think its the end of SRO for anyone who wants to play competitively.

Botting is not playing competitively, to be competitive you actually have to play the game as it was intended within the set guide lines. Competition requires players to abide by the same rules and regulation.

blah blah blah, go play counter strike.

[StacE]

Honestly, what the hell do you expect? It's joymax, stop expecting some f'ing miracle and open your eyes to the fact that ANYTHING that is updated in this game is a good sign.

If you can't compete with bot's deal with it yourself instead of crying. Go train, that is the only advantage that botters have over you.

This update will actually provide something to aim for in this game. The PvP has the triangular conflict at the moment and that is it. There needs to be MORE PvP for people in this game.

I really do hope that a legit union is able to rise to the challenege of this castle siege system. Even if only for a week or something, i hope a legit union proves the lot of you wrong. And whilst you guys are here upset and admitting defeat to the bots, I for one will be training and preparing to actually FIGHT the bots...

There was a hacking going on for a month... great... That means we put EVERYTHING on hold to wait for joymax to fix it? They won't, so deal with it.

If you're going to be annoyed at this update, you may aswell get angry at the 90cap when that comes and everything else. Because surprise surprise, the bots are still going to be there.

[Megaman]

Maybe you guys should make a interserver guild with a name to the effect of "leagueofbitches" or "WeCryAlot". The facts of silkroad are the same today as they were when you started playing, nothing has changed and your continuing to cry.

A LOT has changed since I started playing. Everyone who played during the Farking beautiful alpha/beta/brand new days can back me up on this. People were a lot nicer, hardly (if any) bots and you could do a 1* trade at level 20 without the fear of getting popped.

Here is how it is...
FACT: Bots are a huge percentage of EVERY server

Solution: Grind harder, they may reach 80 faster but that doesnt prevent you from being just as strong when you get there

What you're saying here has some extent of truth- whether it be absurd or not. A legit person CAN be as strong as a capped botter when they hit 80, a lot slower and come on, lets face it: The chances of this happening are extremely low, which brings us on to the next bit.

FACT: Gold Buyers/Sellers inflate the economy

Solution: Gold Buyers make up a much smaller population of these servers than you realize, and inflation in prices go both ways. They buy more they pay more, you sell for more, nothing has changed. Take an econ class, your necessities cost the same, you don't pay more for pots, you do nothing but gain from inflation.

This is true, a legit player does benefit in some ways to a heavily corrupted economy. In my opinion, the cons outweigh the pros. Lets take a look:

Pros:
- Legits can sell items for more return
- Potion/NPC prices are static and are not affected by the economy (yet)
- A legit who gets a SoX drop can sell it for more in SRO's market because of inflation, and sell it with virtually no expenditure besides pots and repair from that grinding session.

Cons:
- Capped farmed botters buy gold to afford SoSun. There is no doubt that a legit who takes the time to get capped and farmed will have an extremely hard time gathering up the money to afford SoSun to even be able to compete with botters. It is not impossible, but chances are low.
- Because of the frustration of not being able to fight capped botters, more and more people are turning to gold buying themselves, botters or not, to fund themselves. Because of this, there is more demand, which is more gold bots, which is more server traffic, and that means I may have to buy a premium ticket (what is it, 200 silk? = 20USD, right?) to even be able to log into the Farking game.
- Bot guilds. Everyone on Aege knows or at least used to know Heaven, the biggest gold-buying, ccf'ing, botting cunts ever known to the server. When a legit player plays the game to have fun- not to enlarge his ego or minuscule phallus, then they probably aren't going to spend a lot of money bar a GT, monkey or PT here and there- but when having fun in the game is lying flat on the floor after being raped by a full SoSun convoy of botters, then I think people are either going to quit, bitch on forums or start doing illegal shit.

FACT: Bots have massed SOSUN items

Solution: Move to a new server, any server after Hercules was created AFTER the sun drop percentages was lowered to almost nothing. Hercules is 6 months old and there is not a single SoSun weapon

I think that any person, using simple logic, would dismiss this argument right away. The fact that people buy gold, bot and ccf shouldn't mean legits should have to pay, one way or another, either PT (to log in) or time+money (new server) I know, that most legit 80's who are struggling against botters would not simply move to another server. Why waste the huge investment of time and money because some impotent prick needs to be better than other people on an online game is ruining your fun? It shouldn't be like it is now.

Fact: Joymax only releases updates that effect the top levels

Solution: Truth but what game doesn't? Korean MMOs are based on gaining levels. Thus your level is your achievement they don't reward you for mediocrity only for being exceptional.

Agreed.

Please stop crying guys, you are making the few of us that remain legit sound like a group of pre-suicidal bitches.

The fact remains that all this comes down to Joymax- They are the reasons botters run rampant, openly admitting it and laughing in the face of legits. Joymax have under-par moderation, if joymax actually put pressure on botters by scaring them into not doing illegal shit, then this whole thing would just go away. But the 'FACT' here is that people aren't afraid of the consequences of doing illegal stuff, and they do it freely because of this.

[non ego man]

Thx mega. well said.

[Krad_Red]

Oddly enough, Im not that excited either. I would rather get the 90 cap first, make all the 8D sun useless, then release castle seige.

But then you would have 9D sun to deal with, let us not forget that the only reason we didnt get moon/sun gear for 8d at 70 cap was cuz we didnt have tier 3 of the 8d gear. With the 90 cap, we will have all tiers, all seals, and skills.

So yes, we will be making 8d sun basically useless, but it will give rise to 9d suns. [which will more than likely be held by the same players that have 8d sun now.]

[the_wicked]

Oddly enough, Im not that excited either. I would rather get the 90 cap first, make all the 8D sun useless, then release castle seige.

But then you would have 9D sun to deal with, let us not forget that the only reason we didnt get moon/sun gear for 8d at 70 cap was cuz we didnt have tier 3 of the 8d gear. With the 90 cap, we will have all tiers, all seals, and skills.

So yes, we will be making 8d sun basically useless, but it will give rise to 9d suns. [which will more than likely be held by the same players that have 8d sun now.]

as long as the sun rate is not increased, 9D sun will take much longer to drop, so sun sets will be rarer.

[Reebok1019]

hmmmm sooo fortress war isnt coming with the 90 cap??? thought it was? no one knows fo sure right?

[lazybum]

hmmmm sooo fortress war isnt coming with the 90 cap??? thought it was? no one knows fo sure right?

i would like to think that, yes. no one knows for sure.
if anyone could show concrete proof with links to official sites stating that the 90 cap IS or IS NOT coming with the the fortress war, only then will i believe...

other then which, i will say...all are just but speculation >.>

[Eliee]

Botting is for noobs. My irl bots and thats why i dont think that he's character is ''awsome'..(He's are going to be the one who hits lv 60 first on our school)
I've build a 31 eu at my own. And im owning chanise wich are 8+ levels above me, well im pruad. I mean its hard. Just cuse im low level dosnt it mean that we were noobs. Try to kill someone with 8levels above you level .

[foudre]

even if i'm too low for a fair chance in fortress seiges, might just waste the time and have some fun, a pack of lower lvls can pick off people upto 20 lvls higer, just gota all hit at once, been done and boy a lvl 42 a 52 and a 54 and a few other mid lvls guys wiht me killing a lvl72 (lol life controll fire bolt was doign like 200dmg) was so satisfying, (too bad mercury has gone to peices now and really sucks, but it had its moments), its not impossible just very hard,

Its about team work, now of course the lower lvls will be screwed if the highers can actually work together right, but never underestimate the power of determined packs, just pray the ones with the advantage aren't as organized

[torinchibi]

....I hope everyone realizes that if sun botters didn't have the sosuns, someone else would. We all know SRO has a huge CCF/Botter/Gold Buyer problem, but the sosun problem is not because of any of these, but rather due to the screw ups of JM, and even having those in the first place. Sun Items should never have existed in this game. Any rare item that unbalances the game that much should never exist in a mmorpg.


All these have nothing to do with the update. It's a fun addition to the game, weather or not cheating guilds take over all the fortresses. Paying 20% more for pots won't really hurt you that much, you make enough just grinding. Maybe the next guild will do a -20% tax rate and balance it out.

The defenders could be goddamn GMs with level 100 chars and it wouldn't matter because they have no power outside of setting a tax that's 20% more. And let's not forget that all those defenses cost a lot of cash to upgrade. This won't just be fun, it migh end up fixing the economy by draining the gold buyers' money.

PS: The fact that kSRO had 90 cap for x years before the castle siege update instead of getting it with that update only proves my point more. Adding content that should have come after different content speaks for itself.

[Krad_Red]

Ok, in joymax's defense.. sun = raped by 80 skills, a full farmed 80 -can- take down a full sun, if not alone, in a group for sure. Why are you all complaining about sun? You wouldnt if you had sun yourself. It's an item, people have it, big f'ing deal. Learn to play strategically and you wont complain, and you'll be able to enjoy the game.

Just the other day i saw KeyBearer [one of the strongest str sun glaviers on Troy] die to a 80 int sword and an 80 str glavier. Imagine that, a full sun glavier taken down by a +5 sword and a +5 glavie. These suns arent as powerful as everyone is making them seem.

This update is in fact the best thing to happen to SRO, Euro f'ed up alot of aspects of silkroad, ever since europe, all these random Lv5 guilds began to pop up with maybe 2 or 3 high level members, why? Mercs. The Castle Siege update will bring back the guild system that made the older caps so fun. It will bring back the teamwork involved in SRO, and iliminate the need for union mercs.

Just my opinion.

[foudre]

Ok, in joymax's defense.. sun = raped by 80 skills, a full farmed 80 -can- take down a full sun, if not alone, in a group for sure. Why are you all complaining about sun? You wouldnt if you had sun yourself. It's an item, people have it, big f'ing deal. Learn to play strategically and you wont complain, and you'll be able to enjoy the game.

Just the other day i saw KeyBearer [one of the strongest str sun glaviers on Troy] die to a 80 int sword and an 80 str glavier. Imagine that, a full sun glavier taken down by a +5 sword and a +5 glavie. These suns arent as powerful as everyone is making them seem.

This update is in fact the best thing to happen to SRO, Euro f'ed up alot of aspects of silkroad, ever since europe, all these random Lv5 guilds began to pop up with maybe 2 or 3 high level members, why? Mercs. The Castle Siege update will bring back the guild system that made the older caps so fun. It will bring back the teamwork involved in SRO, and iliminate the need for union mercs.

Just my opinion.

or you'll see so many mercs because there are dozens of attacking guilds, and the ones defending, but i think that'll make it more fun, more mahyem and since its supposed to be a battle more mahyem is more fun

[Krad_Red]

2 or 3 players attempting to take a castle wouldnt be wise, especially since 1 person alone could take down a set of union mercs with ease. And with this update, comes "Guards," which from thier description they're mercs that are placed around the castle, so what good will having a bunch of mercs to attack the castles?

[Wello27]

Ok, in joymax's defense.. sun = raped by 80 skills, a full farmed 80 -can- take down a full sun, if not alone, in a group for sure. Why are you all complaining about sun? You wouldnt if you had sun yourself. It's an item, people have it, big f'ing deal. Learn to play strategically and you wont complain, and you'll be able to enjoy the game.

Just the other day i saw KeyBearer [one of the strongest str sun glaviers on Troy] die to a 80 int sword and an 80 str glavier. Imagine that, a full sun glavier taken down by a +5 sword and a +5 glavie. These suns arent as powerful as everyone is making them seem.

This update is in fact the best thing to happen to SRO, Euro f'ed up alot of aspects of silkroad, ever since europe, all these random Lv5 guilds began to pop up with maybe 2 or 3 high level members, why? Mercs. The Castle Siege update will bring back the guild system that made the older caps so fun. It will bring back the teamwork involved in SRO, and iliminate the need for union mercs.

Just my opinion.

Your post here just proves you are not a farmed level 80 and have not actually PVPed at the cap.

A well farmed 80 cannot tank a Sun User, you are completely on crack.

The Sun User will also be Full Farmed.

Ganjin on Oasis with SoSun Spear, Pure INT in Full Sun armor.
- His Mars hits a Full Farmed 80 Glaive for 12-15K. His Nukes hit for 13K.
- You can't tank 13K Nuke, 9K, 7K Soul Emperor and then a 15K Mars Crit.

You are completely talking out your a.ss

[Silver0]

lmao@ the whining bitches

they give us awesome update and ur still crying, you guys should slit ur wirst and go to bed

+10 yeah dont like this game then it leave

It's not the game it's the way it's run dumb shit.
This is their way of keeping the customers happy:
--------------
People complain of numerous problems
--------------
Joymax throws an update on because it
requires very little if any work while still
leaving the same problems as before.
------------------------------------------
Stop using the same damn sentence "If you don't
like it leave". It's not the game itself it's all the little things wrong with it.

I Dont go to Macdonald's or kmart, give it a guess? the game comes with the way its run nothing we say do or complain will change anything

[Silver0]

lmao@ the whining bitches

they give us awesome update and ur still crying, you guys should slit ur wirst and go to bed

+10 yeah dont like this game then it leave

It's not the game it's the way it's run dumb shit.
This is their way of keeping the customers happy:
--------------
People complain of numerous problems
--------------
Joymax throws an update on because it
requires very little if any work while still
leaving the same problems as before.
------------------------------------------
Stop using the same damn sentence "If you don't
like it leave". It's not the game itself it's all the little things wrong with it.

I Dont go to Macdonald's or kmart, give it a guess? the game comes with the way its run nothing we say do or complain will change anything