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redneck · Post by **redneck** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:58 am

Check rev6 why are all the servers green...somethings fishy...

Cruor · Post by **Cruor** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:00 am

See section 5.2 of the Operation Policy.

Operation Policy wrote:5.2 Users found to be using or distributing illegal programs may be subject to restrictions of their account or have their account deleted. In particular cases, the user may be subject to investigation by the proper authorities.

darkmaster21 · Post by **darkmaster21** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:02 am

Cruor wrote:See section 5.2 of the Operation Policy.

Operation Policy wrote:5.2 Users found to be using or distributing illegal programs may be subject to restrictions of their account or have their account deleted. In particular cases, the user may be subject to investigation by the proper authorities.

Yup Yup. See? SRO does not allow botters, there just not banning them.

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:02 am

Cruor wrote:See section 5.2 of the Operation Policy.

Operation Policy wrote:5.2 Users found to be using or distributing illegal programs may be subject to restrictions of their account or have their account deleted. In particular cases, the user may be subject to investigation by the proper authorities.

What do they consider ilegal programs though, if that would mean anything.

And is there prof the tos was changed but the date wasnt? >_>.

darkmaster21 wrote:
Cruor wrote:See section 5.2 of the Operation Policy.

Operation Policy wrote:5.2 Users found to be using or distributing illegal programs may be subject to restrictions of their account or have their account deleted. In particular cases, the user may be subject to investigation by the proper authorities.

Yup Yup. See? SRO does not allow botters, there just not banning them.

Much better =.=" lol.

borat2 · Post by **borat2** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:04 am

well Joymax is a weird company (they cant even synchronize joymax standard time with silkroad one, don`t know if its on purpose but seems like silkroad is living in the past.) i do agree its definitely time for another clean up since most goldbots are close or 80 already.

did that new TOS come with the new website?
anyway i can`t agree more with Joymax they are running a game with a community that is for 95% totally not caring about the game they are playing we are the ones that are keeping this problem huge, i can`t blame them to remove any rules against botting and simply get as much cash out of it before its too late.
I mean if they even let people participate in their competition who have been banned before guess that says enough (the gngwc).

nightbloom · Post by **nightbloom** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:07 am

A long time ago I looked for the punishment section for botting and noticed that they had removed it and all the stuff about botting from the TOS. It's been like this for a while. Some guy had posted a program he made that made stall names marquee and argued that it was no more illegal than using Vent (It's prolly been nearly a year since that topic).

Fuhito · Post by **Fuhito** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:07 am

redneck wrote:Check rev6 why are all the servers green...somethings fishy...

iSRObot is bwoken.

nightbloom · Post by **nightbloom** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:08 am

Fuhito wrote:
redneck wrote:Check rev6 why are all the servers green...somethings fishy...

iSRObot is bwoken.

Hope it stays that way.

redneck · Post by **redneck** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:08 am

Fuhito wrote:
redneck wrote:Check rev6 why are all the servers green...somethings fishy...

iSRObot is bwoken.

really how do u know?

AXII · Post by **AXII** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:08 am

I heard ur pet grinding while u r afk in 2moons may be gaymax should try this

borat2 · Post by **borat2** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:11 am

nightbloom wrote:
Fuhito wrote:
redneck wrote:Check rev6 why are all the servers green...somethings fishy...

iSRObot is bwoken.

Hope it stays that way.

perfect time to have a look how many gold bots there actually are in each server since those are still working. :cry:

PiiNoY · Post by **PiiNoY** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:11 am

Twist wrote:Ok.

Krad_Red · Post by **Krad_Red** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:11 am

Barotix wrote:
9. User shall not complain of problems that arise due to use of other software not by the Company in conjunction with the Company’s software.

the Company no longer allows the user to complain about flaws in the service of Silkroad Online; for this reason any questions regarding gold bots intown spam or general problems and bugs are ignored and/or left unchecked.

9. Company has no responsibility to mediate between conflicts that arise between users or between the user and a 3rd party service or any responsibility toward any compensation for any problems that arise because of this.

Could also mean that JM isnt going to take responsibility if you decide to use 3rd party programs and a loss of account or personal information results... JM's ToS could be interpreted in a number of ways.. They leave too many loop holes.

AXII · Post by **AXII** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:11 am

Also there is no such an idiot experience system like sro.I spent 1 year and buyed lots of tickets until fully farmed.After 2 months l8tr euro update i saw 80 lvl euro char :banghead:

Fuhito · Post by **Fuhito** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:13 am

redneck wrote:
Fuhito wrote:
redneck wrote:Check rev6 why are all the servers green...somethings fishy...

iSRObot is bwoken.

really how do u know?

Word of mouth.

(being in a bot union keeps me alive a bit longer when jobbin')

nightbloom · Post by **nightbloom** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:21 am

Fuhito wrote:
redneck wrote:
Fuhito wrote:
redneck wrote:Check rev6 why are all the servers green...somethings fishy...

iSRObot is bwoken.

really how do u know?

Word of mouth.

(being in a bot union keeps me alive a bit longer when jobbin')

Fuhito · Post by **Fuhito** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:25 am

nightbloom wrote:
Fuhito wrote:
redneck wrote:
Fuhito wrote:
redneck wrote:Check rev6 why are all the servers green...somethings fishy...

iSRObot is bwoken.

really how do u know?

Word of mouth.

(being in a bot union keeps me alive a bit longer when jobbin')

Oh please.

How many bot guilds did you have in your union in the brief stay at Persia?

nightbloom · Post by **nightbloom** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:30 am

The one that made us all quit Persia.

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:35 am

Pwnt.

lol >.>

Fuhito · Post by **Fuhito** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:37 am

nightbloom wrote:The one that made us all quit Persia.

Did you manage to stay legit? 'Cause I'm not seein' how I shot myself in the foot or whatever you're trying to imply with that gif.

o_rly · Post by **o_rly** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:00 am

tl;dr

I still despise gold bots, legal or not

Sylhana · Post by **Sylhana** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:14 am

Thanks for the info Barotix. You're right about the change in Tos, but I do think it is more for JM to cover themselves against the botting problem (as many have pointed out), so as not to be liable for its discourse and lack of solutions against it.

I hope you would at least stay on this forum :love:

. There is always hope that things will turn around. If not, then I'll jump to RYL and try that out too >,^ (maybe after trying out guildwars first xD).

firefox6 · Post by **firefox6** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:26 am

redneck wrote:Check rev6 why are all the servers green...somethings fishy...

a few of my botter friends said that the bot servers are down and when you logout you cant log back in to the bot or something..

so now you can see how many bots use isro bot.. and thats not counting people that have been botting the whole time and did not log out.. some of them did not log out so they are still going..

bluey · Post by **bluey** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:29 am

************READ THIS!

These are the only things I found that would suggest that botting is illegal, which is too vague really to say one way or another.

Article 2 (Approval of Use Request)
1. Company may approve or disapprove and cancel such approval or agreement at Company's discretion according to the terms and conditions set out below.
① User's registered name is not a real name
② Illegal use of someone else's name (include lineal ascendants/descendants)
③ Omissions and/or misstatement on user application
④ Disapproval resulting from other misconduct of the User
⑤ Misconduct that is offensive to public peace, order, and/or morals
***⑥ Activity deemed as having ad adverse effect on Company's services
⑦ Failure to fulfill any terms and conditions of the Agreement requested by the Company
⑧ Payment of the service fee through the use of others' credit card, wired/wireless phone, or bank account without permission

6. User shall not violate other people's rights by using the services in violation of the public peace and morality.

This Agreement is effective from 10/2, 2007.

So you are correct, they did change the ToS - and from a legal standpoint, this document does not clearly or definitively state that using a third party program (bot) is illegal. However, the ToS states that they may ban accounts at their discretion.

This is the reason Mary Min quit

This is the reason why there have been no ban lists for months

ShuQi · Post by **ShuQi** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:49 am

The bot terrorists have won.

Cerus · Post by **Cerus** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:56 am

Doesn't matter.

H31grind · Post by **H31grind** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:08 am

Cerus wrote:Doesn't matter.

+1

joymax doesnt care about bots because they give them money.

DiabolicBow · Post by **DiabolicBow** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:10 am

Even if JM changed their TOS that they dont care about botting... it's not like they ever cared. They just "pretended", then just said. fu.ck it. Let these idiots keep complaining.

alZen · Post by **alZen** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:44 am

thanks for bringing this up. not good for hand grinders.

Guardia · Post by **Guardia** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:51 am

Joymax 1, Legits 0. :banghead:

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