euro or fire glavie

lint · Post by **lint** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:21 am

so we just got another computer and i want to retire my 77 int and start fresh with my twin.
but im stuck on considering what to make. at first i wanted to make a glavie but then i saw some euros kick int ass. would a lvl 74 euro be able to 1 hit a 75+ glavie?

Melli · Post by **Melli** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:22 am

u probably mean wizard and yeah they probably do.

lint · Post by **lint** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:33 am

approximately how much hp does a wizard at 74+ have?

the only thing thats holding me back from choosing a euro char is the pot delay

vindicated01 · Post by **vindicated01** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:38 am

zerk mode lv 64 wizzy can kill lv 80 charr ,...

donkyle · Post by **donkyle** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:38 am

well my union mate is a lvl 61 wizard and can take 14k of a lvl 66 and takes 3-4k of a lvl 80

Raiden · Post by **Raiden** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:42 am

lint wrote:approximately how much hp does a wizard at 74+ have?

the only thing thats holding me back from choosing a euro char is the pot delay

Wizard can probably 1 hit kill anyone depending on your gear and your opponent's gear. A wizard can also be 1 hit K.O'd due to pot delay and low HP. I am not sure how much a Wizard has a lv80 though.

foudre · Post by **foudre** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:58 am

don't let the pot delay scare you off, euro's are way more fun then chinese to play

i dont' auto pot i manual pot and its more fun then playing auto pot
wizzards are tough but so are warriors and they have good damage too

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:21 pm

foudre wrote:don't let the pot delay scare you off, euro's are way more fun then chinese to play

i dont' auto pot i manual pot and its more fun then playing auto pot
wizzards are tough but so are warriors and they have good damage too

you manual pot????
omg?? rofl.

not like it matters when your fckn life sacrifice thing is on anyway, what would you have like 3k hp at lvl 80? lol

ZiNC · Post by **ZiNC** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:41 pm

7k-8k hp at 80lvl for wizards...just look at a full str euros int and you will see.

Twist · Post by **Twist** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:42 pm

ZiNC wrote:7k-8k hp at 80lvl for wizards...just look at a full str euros int and you will see.

Full str euro int?Hmmm mkay

Sylhana · Post by **Sylhana** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:49 pm

Twist wrote:
ZiNC wrote:7k-8k hp at 80lvl for wizards...just look at a full str euros int and you will see.

Full str euro int?Hmmm mkay

I think he meant full str euro char's mana (using that as a reference for full int euro char's hp). Uhm but as stated already, life control is going to cut that already low hp, so you still get one-shot most of the time :/

justaskphil · Post by **justaskphil** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:00 pm

Euros are more challenging to play than chinese, and need a lot less farming, since two trees are the max needed.

A good high lvl wizard can pretty much 1 or 2-shot anyone out there (Xian server, full sun blader was 2-shot by a 7x wizard!!!) but the wizard's always a 1 shot kill himself.

Not much hp though...from 6k-7k with average blues (~25str & hp bonus), and 1/2 that when doing the life control stuff...

shoto · Post by **shoto** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:07 pm

why euro int have a different amount of HP than China chars???
Please explain to me why you people think that hp is different on a china v euro?

its not different a pure int euro = pure int china as far as HP is concerned.
the only exception is a spear since heuk has passive hp++

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:08 pm

ZiNC wrote:7k-8k hp at 80lvl for wizards...just look at a full str euros int and you will see.

i was talking about AFTER life turnover ( = 50% HP cut)

~ 3.7k hp at lvl 80?

lint · Post by **lint** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:17 am

so what do you guys recommend me and my brother on making

Jstar1 · Post by **Jstar1** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:54 am

euro its more fun working in parties

bakman · Post by **bakman** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:59 am

euro ftw

Logik · Post by **Logik** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:30 am

euro .

in venice theres no euro parties... :cry:

they all getting powerlvl i have a rogue and dont want to play cuz theres no parties to join and dont really want to get powerlvl by friends... idk why xD

so i just play with it when im really bored of farming :roll:

SchlaueHure · Post by **SchlaueHure** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:41 am

Euro may be strong have good buffs but there armor is crap and they all have little hp and the wrst thing is the 15 second pot delay

StacE · Post by **StacE** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:04 am

I don't get it. Whats the difference ebtween a Euro + a Chinese' HP/MP stats...

They aren't ANY different. The only difference is that chinese' gear is all alchemied which adds loads of HP. The euro gear is hard to find + un-alchemied explaining why there is higher damage and less health.

The pot delay is not that bad either...
You learn to work with euro's, people are just frightened by the 15sec pot delay and never bother to actual level past lvl10. Euro's will rape at lv80 when they have +5 Full Blue gear like every lv80 chinese atm.

There are lv64 wizards with 0 int on gear and a +3 staff killing lv80 full blued chinese characters.

A warrior in my guild, is lv76 with avg. gear... +3 2/3/4 int and less str. He's 1h S/S , and i guaentee you that he can kill. Killing at generals in parties, he out damages all the +7 lv80 glaivers. In PvP, he is able to kill lv80 fully farmed characters with gear WAY better than his.

All you euro haters are so prejudice >_>!

On topic: IMO, seeing as you have your brother to play with... choose euro. You'll be able to party together making levelling easy as pie. And having 2 of you will help you not to die.
My advice is to choose builds that complement each other. Like warrior + wizard, so that you can party effectively.

foudre · Post by **foudre** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:12 am

MrFudge wrote:
foudre wrote:don't let the pot delay scare you off, euro's are way more fun then chinese to play

i dont' auto pot i manual pot and its more fun then playing auto pot
wizzards are tough but so are warriors and they have good damage too

you manual pot????
omg?? rofl.

not like it matters when your fckn life sacrifice thing is on anyway, what would you have like 3k hp at lvl 80? lol

something wrong with manual potting? going auto pot is no fun, and removes a certain lvl of gameplay, try manual potting even with chinese its way more fun to play, because you are trying to get hits in and then heal at the same times, but making sure you don't use one too early, its alot more fun and takes more skill,

Woody93 · Post by **Woody93** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:13 am

I don't like Euro. The attack rating is unbelievable high, but you can be dead with 1 attack. I hear many wizards telling me 'F*ck, again dead!' because there spawned 1 extra monster against him, and with his 500HP he can't kill him. So, that's why i don't like wizards. If you are Chinese nuker, you don't die that much as a wizard, because you don't have Life Control. And without Life Control, wizards can't 1 Hit mobs.

Warriors are better buils IMO. They have great buffs and good HP/Attacks. So if you pick an euro char, i should choose Warriors.

foudre · Post by **foudre** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:29 am

Woody93 wrote:I don't like Euro. The attack rating is unbelievable high, but you can be dead with 1 attack. I hear many wizards telling me 'F*ck, again dead!' because there spawned 1 extra monster against him, and with his 500HP he can't kill him. So, that's why i don't like wizards. If you are Chinese nuker, you don't die that much as a wizard, because you don't have Life Control. And without Life Control, wizards can't 1 Hit mobs.

Warriors are better buils IMO. They have great buffs and good HP/Attacks. So if you pick an euro char, i should choose Warriors.

wrong without life controll i can 1 hit creatures up to my lvl

with life controll i can kill higher lvl ceratures then my chinese nuker could, i mean my nuker took like 3 or 4 hits to kill things a few lvls higher and got critted after killing like 5 creatures and was dead, with wizzard and life controll, bam dead creature 1 hit a few lvls higer then me 4 lvls higher i can normally 1 hit with life controll on, 5-6 lvls higer its 2 hits with or without life controll

and life controll doens't have to be on, its great for solo, but i have a sub class bard so i don't much care what extra spawns as long as its not a giant or champ, the champ i can still kill easily enough even with half hp, the giants i can kill without life controll and fear/hit and run, but it takes a little while and i'd rather just keep blasting the little ones