Nerf the damn things

SomebodyFromTheMass · Post by **SomebodyFromTheMass** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:12 pm

So, I spent more than a year getting to 80 so, I could be one shot by gay powerleveled rogues. I mean it's ok for euros to have higher damage. But whats too much is too much! :banghead:

XMoshe · Post by **XMoshe** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:16 pm

euro is team fight...so you get chinese teamfight...you give your life so your friends can kill the euros :- )

foudre · Post by **foudre** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:18 pm

i can see your anger at them probally being power lvled but, their damage is fair, because they die so easily

piootr · Post by **piootr** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:24 pm

foudre wrote:i can see your anger at them probally being power lvled but, their damage is fair, because they die so easily

imho it dun matter how fast you die if everything trying ot kill you is allready dead

Fly · Post by **Fly** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:27 pm

chinese were made to be solo. getting 1 shotted is not solo. chinese cant fight without a euro to buff them. they messed up big time. rouges need to have there damage lowered and defence raised. enough that they need to get 2 hits off, but not enough to make them another useless pure str build.

warriors also need a defence raise. kinda sucks if my tank cant tank....

foudre · Post by **foudre** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:27 pm

piootr wrote:
foudre wrote:i can see your anger at them probally being power lvled but, their damage is fair, because they die so easily

imho it dun matter how fast you die if everything trying ot kill you is allready dead

the very essence of a nuker

just make sure you get all of them

F-22 · Post by **F-22** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:46 pm

The reason for such high damage is that they have delay potion. If you read some of the tread earlier you will know that at higher lvl cap most euro characters will not learn any new attacks. So it would balance at the end. Also, if you watch on youtube with ksro you dont see many euro players mostly chinese because they knew this already ahead of time. Unfortunately for us, joymax does not provide this informations so we are screw like always.

foudre · Post by **foudre** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:56 pm

besides rogues, are meant for pvp compared to fighting creatures, thats what they excell at. If you had a team with you, that rogue would have been toast as soon as he killed you. Don't go jobbing solo

Drake · Post by **Drake** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:21 pm

SomebodyFromTheMass · Post by **SomebodyFromTheMass** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:22 pm

foudre wrote:
piootr wrote:
foudre wrote:i can see your anger at them probally being power lvled but, their damage is fair, because they die so easily

imho it dun matter how fast you die if everything trying ot kill you is allready dead

the very essence of a nuker

just make sure you get all of them

While I'm half done cooking my nuke, Rogue already kills me.

piootr · Post by **piootr** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:30 pm

SomebodyFromTheMass wrote:
foudre wrote:
piootr wrote:
foudre wrote:i can see your anger at them probally being power lvled but, their damage is fair, because they die so easily

imho it dun matter how fast you die if everything trying ot kill you is allready dead

the very essence of a nuker

just make sure you get all of them

While I'm half done cooking my nuke, Rogue already kills me.

............my life story of pvp right there.....same with wizzies their nukes cast much faster then ours and stgill do more dmg even without life control

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:32 pm

piootr wrote:
SomebodyFromTheMass wrote:
foudre wrote:
piootr wrote:
foudre wrote:i can see your anger at them probally being power lvled but, their damage is fair, because they die so easily

imho it dun matter how fast you die if everything trying ot kill you is allready dead

the very essence of a nuker

just make sure you get all of them

While I'm half done cooking my nuke, Rogue already kills me.

............my life story of pvp right there.....same with wizzies their nukes cast much faster then ours and stgill do more dmg even without life control

Too bad for you guys...

When I play my nuker, against rogues I use ice wall. Kill them every time unless they're out of range.

Fire wall against wizards. Dead.

xene · Post by **xene** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:35 pm

well euro vs chinese is like who gives the first hit wins lol.

MrLonely · Post by **MrLonely** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:35 pm

isn't that the assassin style? If you sneak up to your enemy and do one deadly move he is dead, if you make a mistake and do not kill him first, you can become the losing one, or if there are people around who witness that and kills you, the way of the rogue. So walk around in party. Do not make pure int and go trade run alone, those guys make me laugh

Drake · Post by **Drake** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:49 pm

Walls work well against rogues/wiz when you expect them but a good % of wiz/rogue use their invis/stealth to sneak out from the wall and try and attack when your not ready. Really, having played a wiz into the 5x range before returning to my nuker i know you cant blame them. PVP as we got accustomed to with chinese vs chinese is impossible for euros. There are no such thing as pot fights when u have a 15 sec delay....u kill or get killed

ping_lo · Post by **ping_lo** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:05 pm

foudre wrote:besides rogues, are meant for pvp compared to fighting creatures, thats what they excell at. If you had a team with you, that rogue would have been toast as soon as he killed you. Don't go jobbing solo

LOL you don't know rogue very well do you. My 50ish rogue has dropped traders/transports under the guard of several 69+ many suns and lived to tell the tale. Further I walk right up in front of them and take their goods. Then walk away. Most times they sit there scratching their heads going wtf just happened. Wiz can do it too.

rumpleKillskin · Post by **rumpleKillskin** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:20 pm

Ya, I can see what you mean...but its part of the game, are you pure int??

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:25 pm

Fly wrote:chinese were made to be solo. getting 1 shotted is not solo. chinese cant fight without a euro to buff them. they messed up big time. rouges need to have there damage lowered and defence raised. enough that they need to get 2 hits off, but not enough to make them another useless pure str build.

warriors also need a defence raise. kinda sucks if my tank cant tank....

+1 lol
i mean sure its okay for the 45 seconds we have buffs, but after that waiting for the cooldown, psh forget about it.

_Shinigami_ · Post by **_Shinigami_** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:19 pm

Drake wrote:

Trice · Post by **Trice** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:52 pm

when i was pvping wizards at 3X, i had a br19 shield. they didnt like just how often i blocked their hit, then did nuke /nuke+shout and killed them ^.^

HakubiNi · Post by **HakubiNi** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:03 pm

I have to agree though, there is this 52+ rogue. I'm a level 61 archer. Whenever I go out of town with a cape and he is nearby, he freaking backstabs me. I mean, stop it! Enought already! I want to mess around with cape, and you critting me for over my HP is not helping it.

Rogues and Wizards are a pain to fight against.

foudre · Post by **foudre** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:10 pm

let me rephrase what i said before then
Don't go jobbing solo or with an incompetent party or on high lvl trades without detection of some sort