i really dont think joymax care about any of this they might care a little if there is a guild like Killall _Koreans or something like that, but other wise they dont care
Vindicator wrote:normally id say forget what someone on an online game says or shows, but i know i hate the guild Hizbullah on Alps server, just because of their name.
just add this to your tiny brain ( I think ) >>>
White Power : an orgnisation hate ( used to kill ) HUMANS just because theire rece , not because they did some bad thinks to them ....
Hizbullah : an orgnisation fighting a SRTONG enemy that take over theire land and killing their childrens and womens ( until the time off writing this post ) using STRONG guns, tanks, airforces facing people that do not have any kind of good weapon but some yimes they use rock wich really works with that stuped ARMY .
AFTER this analyses : I thinks you must not COMPARE between ( White Power ) and ( Hizbullah ) . one of them fighting because they got planty of money and time with some STUPED idea . The other one is fighting for his FREEDOM .
CareBear wrote: GET A FN LIFE lol theres a lot more to worry about in sro than a guild called white power
As I already said, I afraid I' find surporters of those type of offenses, but then again this is something I expected.
Your comment.. there is really nothing to answer to, your reply is a statement by itself one that you will have to carry until one day, you may wake up from your own personal nightmare.
how is stating the obvious supporting racist offences?
I think botters, gold sellers, gold spammers, crashes, general abusive play, inconsideration for others on the server ........... list goes on ...... is enough to worry about without having to police the entire landscape of political correctness.
But hey, it's a black thing so lets just ban the guild ...
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Just because you think its wrong, it dosnt mean other people do.
If i think whites are better than blacks, maybe i get offended at you for saying there not. Stop thinking about what you think. It all comes down to EVERYONES INDIVIDUAL PERSPECTIVE.
FFS, its a guild name. Grow up. If you let this bother you so much than i will laugh when you actually have something serious happen to you.
iBilly wrote:Would people consider it racist if the guild name was Black_Power with a black fist?
I doubt it... God I hate political correctness.
Just ignore them, unless they're expressing racism in words to individuals it may offend, I don't see what the problem is. If they're keeping to themselves, leave them be.
I afraid I'd get some of that trash here, after all these guys do have supporters. Comparing this to "political correctness" is deeply offensive and totally out of order. Ignore hatred? Yeah right, of course, that's exactly what those racists wants, people ignore them, they grow, and start talking, exchanging ideas and soon the enter mainstream.
The last anyone should do is something as stupid, as dumb as to ignore that trash in any facet of life, whether at work, whether at home, whether playing on the internet or outside, never ignore racist trash, racist violence.
You, my friend, are blowing this way out of proportion. You're acting like the players ingame with the 'White_Power' label above their head are members of a racist group wanting to take over Silkroad.
It's a group of children misguided, ignorant youths I would wager, really nothing to get worked up about. What's wrong with ignoring them? Acting like you find their guild name offensive is exactly what they want, believe me.
You say it should never be ignored, you're right, it shouldn't. Problem is, the only people who are able to do something about it, quite simply won't. So sometimes you need to ignore them. That doesn't mean you should in real life... by all means, don't in real life, but this is a game.
Oh, and it is political correctness, so it wasn't a comparison.
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Joymax should act upon this. This is, can be, a political or rascist statement. Since politics-rasicm are not to be discussed nor executed in an online game where there are people who can not yet think for themselves this should be handled.
It's not about yes-no, or agree-disagree. It's about avoiding possible topics/remarks/discussion like this one.
So plain simple: no racist-political guildnames/character names/union names what so ever.
If they filter words like ass they can aswell react upon this
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Raiden wrote:You were inactive for 3 days, and one of my Co. Leaders kicked you. I apologize for the inconvience.
so if I name my char auschwitz then i am a racist using your theory
If you name your character Aushwitz you'd better have a good reason for it... and no saying it's sounds nice isn't a good reason. it does not make up for the negative conatination (is this even an english word?).
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Raiden wrote:You were inactive for 3 days, and one of my Co. Leaders kicked you. I apologize for the inconvience.
so if I name my char auschwitz then i am a racist using your theory
If you name your character Aushwitz you'd better have a good reason for it... and no saying it's sounds nice isn't a good reason. it does not make up for the negative conatination (is this even an english word?).
It's the name of something, doesn't need a reason for it at all.
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so if I name my char auschwitz then i am a racist using your theory
If you name your character Aushwitz you'd better have a good reason for it... and no saying it's sounds nice isn't a good reason. it does not make up for the negative conatination (is this even an english word?).
It's the name of something, doesn't need a reason for it at all.
True.
But if you find it ok for yourself to name your character Aushwitz then you really should visit the place. (not personally intended iBilly)
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Raiden wrote:You were inactive for 3 days, and one of my Co. Leaders kicked you. I apologize for the inconvience.
Alright, I'm going to end this thread now since obviously, the same trash that exists in the game also exist here.
"White Power became the name of the American Nazi Party's newspaper, and the title of a book by Rockwell. Many white nationalists, including white supremacists and certain neo-Nazis, have since used the phrase White Power to describe their political goal."
Neo-Nazis, KKK, violence against people because they are not white.
Ignorance is the tool of the racist, he prefers you ignore racism so that it can flourish, whether it being your next door neighbor or on the internet, in this game, might as well ignore it be start accepting it and slowly, it becomes the norm.
Yeah, lets ignore the nazi flag as a guild icon too? Why not? Probably your grand father fought against them, but that's not really important isn't it? I mean, that's probably why you have freedom nowadays, because your grand father decided to ignore them. Oh! Wait, he didn't ignore them, he accept to sacrifice his life for you.
Where ever this kind of filth shows up, it is an obligation to fight it.
White Power.. not important to you? But wait they are bots, I brought friends and we witness they are botters. But you know the irony in this, you probably care much more they are botters than the fact that many of those kids would love to kill people just because they are not white.
Anyway, like I said, I needed to bring attention to this matter, hopefully some people also sent complaints, wise people not ignorant racist people. So this will be my last reply, obviously kids today don't really care about their world, don't care about yesterday and even tomorrow, at least some kids don't.
FluxFire wrote:Alright, I'm going to end this thread now since obviously, the same trash that exists in the game also exist here.
"White Power became the name of the American Nazi Party's newspaper, and the title of a book by Rockwell. Many white nationalists, including white supremacists and certain neo-Nazis, have since used the phrase White Power to describe their political goal."
Neo-Nazis, KKK, violence against people because they are not white.
Ignorance is the tool of the racist, he prefers you ignore racism so that it can flourish, whether it being your next door neighbor or on the internet, in this game, might as well ignore it be start accepting it and slowly, it becomes the norm.
Yeah, lets ignore the nazi flag as a guild icon too? Why not? Probably your grand father fought against them, but that's not really important isn't it? I mean, that's probably why you have freedom nowadays, because your grand father decided to ignore them. Oh! Wait, he didn't ignore them, he accept to sacrifice his life for you.
Where ever this kind of filth shows up, it is an obligation to fight it.
White Power.. not important to you? But wait they are bots, I brought friends and we witness they are botters. But you know the irony in this, you probably care much more they are botters than the fact that many of those kids would love to kill people just because they are not white.
Anyway, like I said, I needed to bring attention to this matter, hopefully some people also sent complaints, wise people not ignorant racist people. So this will be my last reply, obviously kids today don't really care about their world, don't care about yesterday and even tomorrow, at least some kids don't.
I totally agree. Ignorance is the key for the growth of racism.
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jabbers wrote:the wings dont do anything for you other than look fap fap fap retardedd
joymax doesint care about this thats why they diddint do anything i mean this is almost nothing compared to our other problems...
DO YOU NOT KNOW MY IN-GAME NAMES?
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ive gotten plenty of pms from gm's saying "hello are you a bot?"
or for my gm name "your user name is very inappropriate and it could be used to falsely encourage players that you are in fact a GM please make another charicter..."
there are worst things in the game that innapropriate guild names
my guild name is "10k_plz"
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im_a_bot wrote:joymax doesint care about this thats why they diddint do anything i mean this is almost nothing compared to our other problems...
DO YOU NOT KNOW MY IN-GAME NAMES?
im_a_bot im_euro_bot _GM_Dumbass
ive gotten plenty of pms from gm's saying "hello are you a bot?" or for my gm name "your user name is very inappropriate and it could be used to falsely encourage players that you are in fact a GM please make another charicter..."
there are worst things in the game that innapropriate guild names my guild name is "10k_plz"
You are just and all around bad ass.
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jabbers wrote:the wings dont do anything for you other than look fap fap fap retardedd
im_a_bot wrote:joymax doesint care about this thats why they diddint do anything i mean this is almost nothing compared to our other problems...
DO YOU NOT KNOW MY IN-GAME NAMES?
im_a_bot im_euro_bot _GM_Dumbass
ive gotten plenty of pms from gm's saying "hello are you a bot?" or for my gm name "your user name is very inappropriate and it could be used to falsely encourage players that you are in fact a GM please make another charicter..."
there are worst things in the game that innapropriate guild names my guild name is "10k_plz"
You are just and all around bad ass.
Holy shit! YOU REBEL!
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iBilly wrote:You, my friend, are blowing this way out of proportion. You're acting like the players ingame with the 'White_Power' label above their head are members of a racist group wanting to take over Silkroad.
It's a group of children misguided, ignorant youths I would wager, really nothing to get worked up about. What's wrong with ignoring them? Acting like you find their guild name offensive is exactly what they want, believe me.
You say it should never be ignored, you're right, it shouldn't. Problem is, the only people who are able to do something about it, quite simply won't. So sometimes you need to ignore them. That doesn't mean you should in real life... by all means, don't in real life, but this is a game.
Oh, and it is political correctness, so it wasn't a comparison.
That was actually very well said and I think this thread should be ended on that note.
The game of "so what if I were to call my character/guild ____" is very childish.
XemnasXD wrote:1.why do people think that white power groups only offend black ppl.? 2. I'd gladly help you b1tch about it but something tells me nothings going to happen 3. Theres a guild called KKK in Odin but i think they're Turkish and it means something different in they're language. 4. How did that guild get to lvl 4 without JM doing anything about it. Really i think if we brought these guys to court we could sue them for all sorts of negligence.
1. Agreed. I'm white and White Power groups offend me too. We're ALL Human!
2. Yeah Joymax probably won't do anything. If they ban them, someone will just create VVitePower or WhitePovver... etc. If Joymax won't ban gold spammers in town that FLOOD all chat, I doubt they'd ban a guild name that might offend some people. Then again, they did ban Nazi emblems at one point.
3. Simiarly, White Power probably means something different, or nothing at all, in many cultures around the world.
4. Sue Joymax? In what court? I'm not familiar with law suits on companies in other countries. How does that even work?
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say what you want about the motives of someone to name a guild "white power" but im willing to bet its an attempt to get attention and maybe offend some ppl so if any of them browse the forum while there bots runnin i bet they are pissin themselves laughing.
Worrying about racism in a game is kinda pointless....whats the best you could do, get there name changed and emblem removed?...good thing its so hard to get some money and start another guild
If anyone wants to actually accomplish something to prevent/combat racism a game/game forum is not the place you should be.
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I hate it when people bring this kinda real life crap into games. -.-''
I really wish when people log on or start up a console, they would Leave all that racism,politics and all that other garbage at the door.
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Hopefully If you post this up on joymax's forums and get there attention eventually they will do something about it. Good luck..
Why cant you just gang up on the guild? War them! Hunt them down! Harass them! lol That is why they named the guild that in the first place, to get attention. Give it to them!
Whining and crying at JM has NEVER done any good.
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