Glaive's now the worst.... ??

[AUST_ZoRrO]

Glaive's now the worst.... ??

Before the update glaive's were strong, after the update there crap!
All these bladers have these crazy statuses, like bleed and confusion, yet it costs like 20k for 1 of those pills to get rid of that status, and 45 secs before you can use a next one.
Thats stupid - there over powered.

[peex]

[Ashikiheyun]

Sounds good to me

[Sacrament]

glaivers were always weak

[Sharp324]

glaivers were always weak

Depends your version of weak i suppose

[Sacrament]

glaivers were always weak

Depends your version of weak i suppose

they cant kill me is my version of weak. i guess =/

[Deacon]

glaivers were always weak

Depends your version of weak i suppose

they cant kill me is my version of weak. i guess =/

Lol... Consider a account with lvl 15 murder weak ( just kidding )

[JailBait]

Glaive's now the worst.... ??

Before the update glaive's were strong, after the update there crap!
All these bladers have these crazy statuses, like bleed and confusion, yet it costs like 20k for 1 of those pills to get rid of that status, and 45 secs before you can use a next one.
Thats stupid - there over powered.

Have they fixed the Fire Shield buff so it wears off once you unequip the shield?

[_Shinigami_]

yea the Two_Hand Sword is stronger than the Glavie

which is why i went from Glavie user to Two hand sword user

[DarkJackal]

No, fire shield is still fked.

Guess I wont be using ice again yet =.=.

[Crumpets]

Glaive's now the worst.... ??

Before the update glaive's were strong, after the update there crap!
All these bladers have these crazy statuses, like bleed and confusion, yet it costs like 20k for 1 of those pills to get rid of that status, and 45 secs before you can use a next one.
Thats stupid - there over powered.

Have they fixed the Fire Shield buff so it wears off once you unequip the shield?

Sadly no.

Oh and glaive weak? I think the int hyb spears are the weakest now. I see them get man handeld by new soul spear + gsm ... Glaivers are by far still the best.

[tedtwilliger]

Glaive's now the worst.... ??

Before the update glaive's were strong, after the update there crap!
All these bladers have these crazy statuses, like bleed and confusion, yet it costs like 20k for 1 of those pills to get rid of that status, and 45 secs before you can use a next one.
Thats stupid - there over powered.

Have they fixed the Fire Shield buff so it wears off once you unequip the shield?

Sadly no.

Oh and glaive weak? I think the int hyb spears are the weakest now. I see them get man handeld by new soul spear + gsm ... Glaivers are by far still the best.

IMO intl hybrids are really disadvantaged, more at the 90 cap. If they drop fire, they drop fire shield, the magical defence and the phy buff for manna shield. All these skillz are as equally important to an intl build as the new manna shield is. Correct me if im wrong

[Crumpets]

Yup, everyone is being gay vs Fire mastery. But it still helps ... good new mag defense buff. Fire shield .... new nuke maxed is pretty good .. the imbue etc etc.

Also when Rouges finally get a higher level and start using stealth .. the new fire skill will be priceless. I have a 80 nuekr and only reason i got ice for is Mana shield .. as much as I love the skill, feels such a waste only that skill and or the phy defense buff.

[vindicated01]

yea the Two_Hand Sword is stronger than the Glavie

which is why i went from Glavie user to Two hand sword user

we dont know that in this time cause we dont have lv 60 two hand sword lets wait after we sing alot..

[Dumas42]

TBH What Joymax does to make a balanced game does not follow any logic.

First off, like DarkJackal has said, using other imbue other than Fire makes no sense.

Fire is stronger than Lightning for INT? If Lightning is the source of INT strength, speed, teleport and speed peircing force and concentration...why is fire stronger?

I ask you, if you ran through fire, or ran through a lightning storm, what would hurt more? Tons of burns, or death? I think death hurts more. Lightning is by far the strongest element of the trees, but Joymax in their illogical reasoning made fire stronger.

The sun, big fire ball? Think again, that's nuclear fusion.

Immunity? Fire gets the strongest nukes, the strongest imbue, and IMMUNITY? That defeats the whole purpose of lightning and fire.

Fire gets the most Nukes? Fire to me seems a perfect match for bladers or glaivers. Magic protection, fire shield, and good physical strength buffs. What do glaives and bladers need nukes. Lightning, you get one strong nuke at any given time, the others are outdated lvled and weak. Lightning nukes have very short distance, fire has the most distance. More stupidity.

For physical, seems OK I suppose. I cannot really comment on Euros.

All I know is IMMUNITY needs to be fixed. A blader has knock down, a glaiver has his stun and knock back, so do archers. STR characters have their status affects and chance on hits.

What do INT have? Going in with spear when you are a mage during a massive PvP fight is suicide. Sword, Shield and Nuking. If we do Ice nuke, no one freezes or frost. Lightning nuke, no one's parry reduces. Fire, no one burns. We don't get any status effect or chance on hits.

Balance the game Joymax. For us who choose lightning and ice, be nice if we had some decent nukes. Fire = Physical, Lightning = INT. Fire = Best nukes. Lightning = Crud Nukes. Something wrong here.

[Travis Miller]

Naaa man remember, Glaive are still powerful. You just got to get the right skills for counter attacks.

[AUST_ZoRrO]

I think the major issue is "balancing".

I came back to iSRO i few days ago (mainly for the european expansion), all of i sudden i see literally everyone in hotan wearing seal of suns, i was very surprised. Once i got into some pvp with some sosun bladers, i was amazed when they used their new 6 combo skill - bleed status, confusion status, etc...

The amount of defense, attack, etc i lost was crazy i was getting so much damage. I literally felt like a lvl60 vs lvl80.

Is it just me or have attacks / monsters become slightly stronger?
I noticed that mages are doing around 1.5-2k dmg on me, yet i swear before the update they could barely do 1.3k. Even the generals, did a random 4k critical on me (i think it might of been one of those - party monsters), but the fact is everything seems stronger :S

Even checked all my items like 4 times to make sure i was wearing the latest gear - on top i still got some of my sosun garment on me, and yet damage was still above average since update. Interesting...

[heroo]

errrm.., im glavier and still own anyone of my lvl ?

[Amelie]

+1

[Dark Shifty]

I think that bowmen have become the new bladers but worst than ever. THEY ARE SO ANNOYING WITH THEIR STUN AND KNOCKBACK X5. /endcapslock (Just had to get that out there)
Now for some input on the subject, me being a glaiver i love the new ss move. To me, it has brought a balance in its self for more dmg wise. I can kill about anyone my lvl, excpet for bladers and now bowmen(stupid knockback ) Glaivers being the worst? IMO HELL NO

[JailBait]

Glaive's now the worst.... ??

Before the update glaive's were strong, after the update there crap!
All these bladers have these crazy statuses, like bleed and confusion, yet it costs like 20k for 1 of those pills to get rid of that status, and 45 secs before you can use a next one.
Thats stupid - there over powered.

Have they fixed the Fire Shield buff so it wears off once you unequip the shield?

Sadly no.

Heh so they've been exploiting that to make themselves tougher than they were supposed to, following a cookie cutter build and bashing 3 buttons. Now things change a bit, requiring rethinking gameplay and what happens?

Guess what, players might need to seriously consider the Force tree now. The new series that removes 2 random negative effects, in an AoE fashion looks really neat.
Great job on that one from JM's part I think.
Teamwork is the way to go. SRO is no longer about making YouTube videos on how people "pwnz0r" 1-on-1 outside DW.

[UniQ]

what if a lvl80 glavier has 50% mana shield? 20khp, with mana its 40k stamina... means nobody can kill u... for 2min lol

but I think hybrid int is owning like hell if they're 80+. At lvl54 i have 5k hp and 88% mag balance (can 1 hit hashades)

[ZeFrog]

Glaive's now the worst.... ??

Before the update glaive's were strong, after the update there crap!
All these bladers have these crazy statuses, like bleed and confusion, yet it costs like 20k for 1 of those pills to get rid of that status, and 45 secs before you can use a next one.
Thats stupid - there over powered.

Have they fixed the Fire Shield buff so it wears off once you unequip the shield?

Sadly no.

Heh so they've been exploiting that to make themselves tougher than they were supposed to, following a cookie cutter build and bashing 3 buttons. Now things change a bit, requiring rethinking gameplay and what happens?

Guess what, players might need to seriously consider the Force tree now. The new series that removes 2 random negative effects, in an AoE fashion looks really neat.
Great job on that one from JM's part I think.
Teamwork is the way to go. SRO is no longer about making YouTube videos on how people "pwnz0r" 1-on-1 outside DW.

If JM fixes the Fire Shield, 70/70 balance Sword/Ice/Light builds will be good PvP builds, the notoriously unkillable Ice Bladers will also make a comeback as well...

[Nyahgis]

Glaive's now the worst.... ??

Before the update glaive's were strong, after the update there crap!
All these bladers have these crazy statuses, like bleed and confusion, yet it costs like 20k for 1 of those pills to get rid of that status, and 45 secs before you can use a next one.
Thats stupid - there over powered.

Have they fixed the Fire Shield buff so it wears off once you unequip the shield?

Sadly no.

Oh and glaive weak? I think the int hyb spears are the weakest now. I see them get man handeld by new soul spear + gsm ... Glaivers are by far still the best.

IMO intl hybrids are really disadvantaged, more at the 90 cap. If they drop fire, they drop fire shield, the magical defence and the phy buff for manna shield. All these skillz are as equally important to an intl build as the new manna shield is. Correct me if im wrong

ROFL? Int hybrids weak? HAHA. Right now... I happily tank 4~5 people in job wars, and easily drop any build. I'm lvl 80 with maxed skills. My buddy [mindwarped], lvl 75, same build as me, also has little problems disposing of lvl 80s. Int hybrids are not at all weak at this cap... Come to troy and check out some of our int hybrids if you don't believe it.

[Echos]

hehe,yeah i made myself pure str blader bcuz i dream of having sosun shiled
at highlvls
it should be like playing with god mod,and with few other sosun wearings it would be almost godlike

[Tokughavita]

wow your such a copycat, GTFO

[EngravedDemon]

Glaive's still pack a lot of punch... Not weakened at all...

The only thing now is that they can't really use mana shield at its full potential b/c they'd always be out of mp to use skills... So that's out of the question... Unlike Hybrids...

Hmm, one thing that bothers me though is this thing about fire shield... Did they fix the % Reduce to actually just Effect reduce? Which pretty much means no IMMUNITY? Hehe...

Anyway... Like Nyaghis said...

I think it's the dawn on the Int Hybrids... to Dominate... LOL!

[Shadowman20818]

Glaives were and are average, not weak by any means though, the only weak builds are the ones that have no clue what they're doing and even sun gear won't help.

[bambskiii]

hahaha!

[John_Doe]

Glaives were and are average, not weak by any means though, the only weak builds are the ones that have no clue what they're doing and even sun gear won't help.

+1