are europeans overpowered

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:54 pm

well so what do you guys think

Jex · Post by **Jex** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:55 pm

Negative trooper, their attack and defense aswell as cooperative team play all coordinates into balance with the chinese stand alone and potting abilities.

BlackFox · Post by **BlackFox** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:55 pm

Not need to make a thread like this ...................

Jex · Post by **Jex** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:57 pm

Actually I don't think I've seen this being discussed before. can;t say I've read every thread but this topic is a specific part of the Europe update, maybe it will unfold into a decent discussion about mixing chinese and europe teams to form stronger guilds for jobs and wars.

tombbb · Post by **tombbb** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:00 pm

How can anyone make any sort of judgement about whether euro characters are overpowered or not without even having played them?

Quyxz · Post by **Quyxz** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:01 pm

idk

yet

JackB4u3r · Post by **JackB4u3r** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:02 pm

Depending on the situation.

Short version: no.

Long version:
In solo grinding a Chinese character will always be better then a Europe character. With no pot delay and more developed skills they have various options on how to build their character and so have many advantages over European characters which are party based and do very bad at solo grinding. Wizards are not bad at solo grinding, because of their high damage and the ability to constantly attack without a great delay. With a few X-Large potions, they can do very good, especially on non-aggro mobs.

In party grinding, a Europe party rocks and kills extremely fast. Wizards can do enormous damage in short period of time and clerics will heal the tanks, so that they don't even come to the critical hp zone, even if they are killing mobs which are much higher lvl than they are. A Chinese party will not work good together except they arrange themselves, but due to the fact that they are made to solo grind, they will rather make exp distribution parties.

Disconn3cted · Post by **Disconn3cted** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:03 pm

well considering that i've never played euro and there is an idk option i choose it since idk lol

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:06 pm

well we won't know that till we try it for ourslves :roll:

Ichimaru420 · Post by **Ichimaru420** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:07 pm

no I dnt think there are tbh especialy with the 20 pot delay I think it's evend out tbh.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:13 pm

the reason i made the post is because i know there are players that play cSRO and kSRO

and i wanted thier feedback

so i could make my iSRO, F.O.S. faq better

the faq i'm talking about is the 1 i made on the official forums as Yon_Cui

im just gonna be making polls

and putting together the data then adding it to the faq later

its like my way of collecting info from players more experienced than me

Krad_Red · Post by **Krad_Red** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:22 pm

JackB4u3r wrote:Depending on the situation.

Short version: no.

Long version:
In solo grinding a Chinese character will always be better then a Europe character. With no pot delay and more developed skills they have various options on how to build their character and so have many advantages over European characters which are party based and do very bad at solo grinding. Wizards are not bad at solo grinding, because of their high damage and the ability to constantly attack without a great delay. With a few X-Large potions, they can do very good, especially on non-aggro mobs.

In party grinding, a Europe party rocks and kills extremely fast. Wizards can do enormous damage in short period of time and clerics will heal the tanks, so that they don't even come to the critical hp zone, even if they are killing mobs which are much higher lvl than they are. A Chinese party will not work good together except they arrange themselves, but due to the fact that they are made to solo grind, they will rather make exp distribution parties.

always "in grinding this" "in grinding that" no one cares! grinding is boring! > <

how about in pvp? what people truely care for.

JackB4u3r · Post by **JackB4u3r** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:25 pm

Krad_Red wrote:always "in grinding this" "in grinding that" no one cares! grinding is boring! > <

how about in pvp? what people truely care for.

Grinding = Killing mobs.

Killing mobs = Experience.

Experience = Level up.

Level up = More power.

More power = Better at pvp.

Better at pvp = More fun.

XCaosX · Post by **XCaosX** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:31 pm

idc=?
idk=?
sry im lvl80 but noob xD

Disconn3cted · Post by **Disconn3cted** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:32 pm

XCaosX wrote:idc=i dont care
idk=i dont know
sry im lvl80 but noob xD

/Pi · Post by **/Pi** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:34 pm

Both races are on different gameplay. I can never emphasize this any more. The Chinese race is good at solo grinding, and with specialization, they're also good at PVP. The European race is good at party grinding, but again with specialization, they're good at wars.

In short, the Chinese race lean more towards one on one fights, while the European race lean more towards massive fights.

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:34 pm

I don't care
I don't know

Anyways, euro party grind is a lot more fun.

cin · Post by **cin** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:35 pm

XCaosX wrote:sry im lvl80 but noob xD

lulz.

as far as i know, both races have their advantages and disadvantages.
so i say no; euros are not overpowered.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:48 pm

so i can safely edit my faq and say the current races and races [arabic/islam] to come will be balanced

and its safe to suggest
chinese = solo

euro = party

muslim/arabic = ????

HyorunmarouZ · Post by **HyorunmarouZ** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:51 pm

Barotix wrote:so i can safely edit my faq and say the current races and races [arabic/islam] to come will be balanced

and its safe to suggest
chinese = solo

euro = party

muslim/arabic = ????

I'm not sure, but i have the impression that Arabics are solo oriented too.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:51 am

hmm so more are pushing towards no

hmm 25 more votes and ill edit my faq according to what the majority says

DragonTalon · Post by **DragonTalon** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:38 am

Krad_Red wrote:always "in grinding this" "in grinding that" no one cares! grinding is boring! > <

how about in pvp? what people truely care for.

Im pretty sure the same thing applies. If it was a 1v1 Nuker Vs. Warrior im pretty sure a nuker would win. But throw in a healer type class to aid the warrior then im guessing the nuker is considered pwned? Im not so sure myself so correct me if im wrong.

Sharp324 · Post by **Sharp324** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:56 am

Krad_Red wrote:
always "in grinding this" "in grinding that" no one cares! grinding is boring! > <

how about in pvp? what people truely care for.

Actually grinding in a euro party is quite enjoyable. Its not just click and move on. You all have to work together and i love that fact

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:12 pm

so it seems the majority agree euro's are not overpowered,.....but why

Fly · Post by **Fly** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:02 pm

HyorunmarouZ wrote:
Barotix wrote:so i can safely edit my faq and say the current races and races [arabic/islam] to come will be balanced

and its safe to suggest
chinese = solo

euro = party

muslim/arabic = ????

I'm not sure, but i have the impression that Arabics are solo oriented too.

they are solo-party oriented. meaning they solo with a party of summoned mobs they created. both solo and party at the same time.

there pvp styal would prolly be in between euro and china. better then china in group, and better then euro in 1v1.

FireboltNuker · Post by **FireboltNuker** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:15 pm

Not at all.

CMG230 · Post by **CMG230** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:16 pm

i read every skill of all classes for euro, and its apparent that euros do WAY more damage, even the cleric has skills that do more damage then chinese pure int nukers. But they cant spam pot/pills

HyorunmarouZ · Post by **HyorunmarouZ** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:16 pm

Fly wrote:
HyorunmarouZ wrote:
Barotix wrote:so i can safely edit my faq and say the current races and races [arabic/islam] to come will be balanced

and its safe to suggest
chinese = solo

euro = party

muslim/arabic = ????

I'm not sure, but i have the impression that Arabics are solo oriented too.

they are solo-party oriented. meaning they solo with a party of summoned mobs they created. both solo and party at the same time.

there pvp styal would prolly be in between euro and china. better then china in group, and better then euro in 1v1.

Yeah that's very logical

if we already met the extremes (group and solo) there's only the in-between left...

That summoning sound interesting would be good to see what "beasts" or cretures can be summoned, like that Aladdin's ripoff genie hehe

Now we only need to wait for nightbloom and you to make a movie when it is released :wink:

CMG230 · Post by **CMG230** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:25 pm

i think islam will be awesome. I saw a movie on sro islam, i think the link was on here but cant remeber, and a ninja is fighting with skaleton guards. Would be interesting if you can summon like diablo 2 :lod style, ressing undead, and summoning skaletons to have a mix of them. that would be so fun to play, im assuming they will also have poison as an element, as poison always seems to follow the summoner in all the games ive played. The ninja also looked cool, wasnt all weapon oriented, they had spinning kicks and throws and such, but this wasnt actual gameplay, just a movie trailer about it, so thoes skills and crreatures may not even exist.

Tetsumaru · Post by **Tetsumaru** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:26 pm

there is no such thing as a muslim ninja.

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