Haven't +4 any weapon yet

MaRcG · Post by **MaRcG** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:10 pm

Hi guys, I had a lvl 64+0 that i +3ed but it wouldn't +4 i dont know why, i used like 40 wep elixirs cos i wanted to +4 but ithe damm weapons won't increase and only made +3.

Then the other weapon, glavie lvl 68, i +3 with 3 elixirs, tried to +4, it fail, +3 again in a coupple of tries, +4 failed. The rare thing was that it was very easy to +3 that weapon but it wouldn't go +4.

Is this normal?

Tygrah · Post by **Tygrah** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:20 pm

Yes, unless your name is Deacon! ><

In the case of the 2nd glavie, then seeing it +3'd easy, you probably did the right thing trying for +4.

Trying a few elixirs too see if the item is lucky or not is a bit like calling someone in poker - you've got to pay if you want to see their cards! The only trouble is that in making +1 -> +3 you don't get as good a measure of the item's luckiness as you'd like due to the large amount of randomness involved.

(See also this thread.)

LadyB · Post by **LadyB** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:42 pm

its rare. i spent 18 mil on like 80 weap elixirs trying to get my som shield to +7. and i finally got to +7 lol. no astrals

KYD · Post by **KYD** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:54 pm

After you make couple of items +4 you know when and what items to plus

from +4 its become harder

+4 it's really piece of cake

Tygrah · Post by **Tygrah** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:56 pm

LadyB wrote:its rare. i spent 18 mil on like 80 weap elixirs trying to get my som shield to +7. and i finally got to +7 lol. no astrals

Might have been easier to use shield elixirs on that!

ciddy · Post by **ciddy** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:57 pm

Tygrah wrote:
LadyB wrote:its rare. i spent 18 mil on like 80 weap elixirs trying to get my som shield to +7. and i finally got to +7 lol. no astrals

Might have been easier to use shield elixirs on that!

lol i was thinking the same thing

LadyB · Post by **LadyB** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:57 pm

KYD wrote:After you make couple of items +4 you know when and what items to plus

from +4 its become harder

+4 it's really piece of cake

seriously. once your past +4, you will notice how easy +4 is :banghead:

s0017 · Post by **s0017** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:03 am

LadyB wrote:its rare. i spent 18 mil on like 80 weap elixirs trying to get my som shield to +7. and i finally got to +7 lol. no astrals

Maybe you spent all that money on the wrong elixer.

sk8ter · Post by **sk8ter** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:14 am

s0017 wrote:
LadyB wrote:its rare. i spent 18 mil on like 80 weap elixirs trying to get my som shield to +7. and i finally got to +7 lol. no astrals

Maybe you spent all that money on the wrong elixer.

lol...

Rockshmo · Post by **Rockshmo** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:02 am

I can't even get my 4d shield to +3.. everytime +1 ok +2 fail/ok +3 always fail.

Manowar · Post by **Manowar** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:17 am

LadyB wrote:
KYD wrote:After you make couple of items +4 you know when and what items to plus

from +4 its become harder

+4 it's really piece of cake

seriously. once your past +4, you will notice how easy +4 is

+1. I noticed after i +4d a lvl 64 blade i managed to get +4 on 4 garm items and a ring.

But yea its pretty normal to blow 40+ elixers on +4ing a wep, which is how much i blew trying to +4 my sos sword. Though if u ask me u might have better luck on another wep.

lexies2 · Post by **lexies2** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:23 am

I can never get anything pass +5 :banghead:

Bakemaster · Post by **Bakemaster** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:31 am

My level 42 INT 3 spear (way back before the alchemy update when that was hot stuff and we couldn't see damage/reinforce percentages) took 31 elixirs to +3. So y'all best stop with the complaining.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:53 am

i haven't made a successful +3 yet. but then again i don't try so meh

& yes, that's normal..

LadyB · Post by **LadyB** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:40 am

sk8ter wrote:
s0017 wrote:
LadyB wrote:its rare. i spent 18 mil on like 80 weap elixirs trying to get my som shield to +7. and i finally got to +7 lol. no astrals

Maybe you spent all that money on the wrong elixer.

lol...

oops i meant shield

timtam · Post by **timtam** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:38 am

+4 isnt that hard...

but i once had a sos spear that wouldnt go +2 >_>

Susanoo · Post by **Susanoo** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:57 am

I have done +5 several times, but I haven't tried +7 yet. I'll try a shield soon if I find one with a 18-20 br or so

MaRcG · Post by **MaRcG** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:16 am

Susanoo wrote:I have done +5 several times, but I haven't tried +7 yet. I'll try a shield soon if I find one with a 18-20 br or so

w/ or w/o astral?

Lets say i want my final glavie 72 be +7 but i wont use astrals, any possibility? Or i could just make lvl 72 weapons +3/+4 sell them and buy a +7...

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:06 am

Tygrah wrote:Yes, unless your name is Deacon! ><

What does that has to do with me

Ur just jealous on me! xD

justaskphil · Post by **justaskphil** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:54 pm

you can usually tell if a weapon is going to be difficult or not to get to +5 and beyond...if I can't get from 3 - 4 in 3 tries, that's as far as I go. Throw in the towel...get it back to +3 and sell it. (SOS stuff, see below paragraph) You can be stubborn and buy a bunch of elixirs to make it happen, but you're probably better off to save the cash, sell item to recoup elixir cost, and use it to buy another weap to ++.

Even though each item has its own level of 'lucky' for alchemy and endurability success, you should find a friend that has a good 'lucky' level (i.e. success with +++) - let them take that item for a spin and see what happens. It works well with sos stuff to let someone that's more lucky than you try to +++ it for you. I normally have a lot better success with stones than the ++ so I try to let someone else ++ my stuff and I try to add stones for them

imporkchop · Post by **imporkchop** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:13 pm

i believe each item has their probabliity of succes rate in + and alchemy. If it keeps failin chance are that the weapon is unlucky.

I +3 my weapon in 1 try. then i waited and +4 it in another try. then i got luck stone and +5 it in a few days.

the blues were all done in 1-2 tries.

but i had a weapon that i spent 20mil tryin to add blue wih no luck and i end up sellin / breakin it

LuCiDiTy · Post by **LuCiDiTy** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:24 pm

I made a 72 spear and a 68 sword +5 today >.> .Sometimes you are lucky sometimes you even fail +3/4.

MaRcG · Post by **MaRcG** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:28 pm

well im the unlukiest person uve ever seen, do u know the lvl 68 glavie +3 i made? Well i sold it to the npc by accident.

brentonsbbe359 · Post by **brentonsbbe359** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:31 pm

yea i tryed getting my lvl 16 sos sheild +3 it worked but i had one sheild elxir left...................i tryed it failed

LuCiDiTy · Post by **LuCiDiTy** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:49 pm

MaRcG wrote:well im the unlukiest person uve ever seen, do u know the lvl 68 glavie +3 i made? Well i sold it to the npc by accident.

ouch >.<