Making/Selling Stones -> Good Money ?

[PR0METHEUS]

Ehm guys, maybe i didn'T say that i only have 500k

So i will not collect 5 million for tablets / elements etc.
I HAVE 500k AND I ASK THAT SHOULD I MAKE/SELL DGR4,DRG5 STONES OR SELL ELEMENTS, AND FOR WHAT PRICE . CAN YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION????? I HAVE NO MILLIONS, I WANT TO HAVE MILLIONS...

ah, i'M so angry today, sorry

Of course if you don't have much money, don't bother buying tablets and elements to make stones. Well here's my suggestion. It's what I did, and still do today, to make money. As you're out grinding and collect drops like "tiger dogtooth" or "black fur" or "broken arrow" or other weird items like that, collect a bunch of those. Get some voide rhondo, and break those weird elements up. It won't cost you much (just your grind time which you're spending anyway) and then sell those elements overnight in your stall.

Element prices depend on the server you're on. On Venice, I can sell wind2 and wind4 for around 2k - 2.5k each, sometimes even more. For other elements, I generally sell lvl 1 and lvl 2 for 500 each, lvl 3 for 750 each, lvl 4 and 5 for 1k each (never sold lvl 6-8). Some elements I find don't sell well at all, like fire lvl 5 and earth lvl 4/5. If a certain element level doesn't sell good at those prices, just sell them REALLY cheap. As long as you sell them for more than the cost of the rhondo (like double) you should be fine I'd think.

Keep track of what items give you wind2 and wind4 and spend time grinding there. The items themselves tell you what elements they create.

[Kori0129]

Ehm guys, maybe i didn'T say that i only have 500k

So i will not collect 5 million for tablets / elements etc.
I HAVE 500k AND I ASK THAT SHOULD I MAKE/SELL DGR4,DRG5 STONES OR SELL ELEMENTS, AND FOR WHAT PRICE . CAN YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION????? I HAVE NO MILLIONS, I WANT TO HAVE MILLIONS...

ah, i'M so angry today, sorry

Of course if you don't have much money, don't bother buying tablets and elements to make stones. Well here's my suggestion. It's what I did, and still do today, to make money. As you're out grinding and collect drops like "tiger dogtooth" or "black fur" or "broken arrow" or other weird items like that, collect a bunch of those. Get some voide rhondo, and break those weird elements up. It won't cost you much (just your grind time which you're spending anyway) and then sell those elements overnight in your stall.

Element prices depend on the server you're on. On Venice, I can sell wind2 and wind4 for around 2k - 2.5k each, sometimes even more. For other elements, I generally sell lvl 1 and lvl 2 for 500 each, lvl 3 for 750 each, lvl 4 and 5 for 1k each (never sold lvl 6-8). Some elements I find don't sell well at all, like fire lvl 5 and earth lvl 4/5. If a certain element level doesn't sell good at those prices, just sell them REALLY cheap. As long as you sell them for more than the cost of the rhondo (like double) you should be fine I'd think.

Keep track of what items give you wind2 and wind4 and spend time grinding there. The items themselves tell you what elements they create.

Thank You so much. But about wind lvl2: the best dropers are in Jangan's tomb ( lvl8-10 ) Next best dropper : Black Rober follower
They drop 2 of them.


So i should sell the wind2-4 elements for money, and make stones from cheap elements?


edit1: Only Wind2-4 are really valuable elements?

[PR0METHEUS]

Well I know of a mob that drops alchemy items giving 8 wind2 each.

Yeah in my experience, wind2 and wind4 sell the BEST. Some other elements sell alright. I know fire5 is my WORST seller. I can barely sell a stack of 100 fire5 for 250k even

Maybe the ch'in tomb is a good place to get wind2, if you're around their level. They're so low level, I don't think they'll ever give drops for me.

[InsertName]

Yeah in my experience, wind2 and wind4 sell the BEST. Some other elements sell alright. I know fire5 is my WORST seller. I can barely sell a stack of 100 fire5 for 250k even

100 fire lvl5 is only 70-80k

[phresh]

I think he meant 1000 fire5 for 250k.. same experience here.

You could sell some lvl4 stones sure.. but, people using 4th degree stuff are mostly poor so you're not going to get a good price most the time. Personally I'd pay 400k for a lvl4 str tab no question, but most the people at those levels couldn't affor that as they're lucky to have a even a mil gold.

So yes, 5th degree is where most people start doing more alchemy and the 5th degree stones do sell. I'm on the same server. I haven't meesed with 5th degree stuff for a while but prior to the events (and our economy is almost back that normal state) I was selling 5th lvl stones as follows:
STR5 - 600-650k
INT5 500-550k
CRIT5 500k
AGILITY5 400-500K
STAMINA5 400-500K
(and yes these are the ones generally worth making/selling cuz they are in demand)

Generally a lvl5 stone is worth around 500k, lvl6 around 600k but this is just a guild line, STR is always gonna be at a premium, random rubies are only gonna sell if they're cheap for their degree or someone really needs them.

Just remember the lower lvl the stuff, the less likely people that lvl are to have lots of gold. Sure a sosun 24 glav is pretty and might be worth the 40mil to you, but finding a lvl24 player with 40mil to spend just isn't that likely. Of course there are exceptions with people starting new chars, but we're talking majorities here.

And yeah, elements simply sell better in hotan because more people are buying them. But, some elements you need for lvl3-5 stones that you don't need for lvl6-8 stones, and those will sell better in donwang, and not at all in hotan. Wind5 for example, was one of my best sellers in donwang, can't give it away in hotan.

So yes you can sell the premium elements and make a nice profit and try selling stones that use the non-selling elements but, you'll find the stones that sell are the same ones you need those high-priced elements to make. Still there some stones that can be made from cheap elements and common tabs that will sell if priced right.

the best thing to do is start selling. Look at stalls. Waste people's time asking them how much they're sellin theirs for, etc. Just get a feel for the market, it takes experience more than anything.

Hope this helps..

[Mauler109]

Well I know of a mob that drops alchemy items giving 8 wind2 each.

I think I know what mob your talking about, and i'm just about to the level there at.
I think.
*Runs off to check if was right*

[Kori0129]

I don'T think that crit and int stones are good to make at deg5, because they need wind 2


bytheway I'm lvl29

[PR0METHEUS]

I think he meant 1000 fire5 for 250k.. same experience here.

Yeah I meant 1,000 fire 5. When I first started selling elements, I basically used the following rates (on venice)

lvl 1: 500 each
lvl 2: 500 each
lvl 3: 750 each
lvl 4: 1k each
lvl 5: 1k each

wind: generally double the above (at least for lvl 2 and lvl 4)

Most of my lvl 1 and 2 (non wind) elements don't sell good, and fire 5 sells BAD. According to the rates above, 1,000 fire 5 should sell for 1k each = 1mil, but I can't even sell 1,000 fire 5 for 250k. If I put up 100 (1 hundred) fire 5, it doesn't even seem to sell for 25k. So who knows.

I don'T think that crit and int stones are good to make at deg5, because they need wind 2


bytheway I'm lvl29

Well that's true if you BUY wind 2. That would be a bad idea. But if you are collecting wind2 from mobs, then you can make/sell degree 5 crit stones and make some good money. I used to sell lvl 5 challenge (crit) stones for 400k each and they sold good. If you're not actually buying the elements, then stone sales are almost pure profit. Still, I'd rather sell the elements themselves usually. Let the consumer decide what stones he/she wants to build from your elements.

[Kori0129]

"bytheway I'm lvl29 "

Well that's true if you BUY wind 2. That would be a bad idea. But if you are collecting wind2 from mobs, then you can make/sell degree 5 crit stones and make some good money. I used to sell lvl 5 challenge (crit) stones for 400k each and they sold good. If you're not actually buying the elements, then stone sales are almost pure profit. Still, I'd rather sell the elements themselves usually. Let the consumer decide what stones he/she wants to build from your elements.

So if i make Str stones, and make crit stones form gained( not bought) wind2 then i will live rich?



For this post : "There is a mob what drops 8 wind2 "
It'S a Red-Eyed Ghost'S material called Fire Leather

[PR0METHEUS]

"bytheway I'm lvl29 "

Well that's true if you BUY wind 2. That would be a bad idea. But if you are collecting wind2 from mobs, then you can make/sell degree 5 crit stones and make some good money. I used to sell lvl 5 challenge (crit) stones for 400k each and they sold good. If you're not actually buying the elements, then stone sales are almost pure profit. Still, I'd rather sell the elements themselves usually. Let the consumer decide what stones he/she wants to build from your elements.

So if i make Str stones, and make crit stones form gained( not bought) wind2 then i will live rich?



For this post : "There is a mob what drops 8 wind2 "
It'S a Red-Eyed Ghost'S material called Fire Leather

Well I didn't say you'd be rich by making str and crit stones (from gained elements). It takes a while to gain those elements, and so you really can't make TONS of stones to sell that way. I just get enough elements to sell a stone or 2 every once in a while. All I was saying is when you DO sell a stone, the only thing it costs you is the void rhondo used to build the elements, which isn't much.

As for the 8 wind2, for some reason I thought fire leather gave you 2 or 4 wind2 each. I'm thinking of the red scorpions for 8 wind2. I can't remember though.

[phresh]

Alchemy drops guide

I get more elements from the other rondos typically[/hint]

[Mauler109]

thanks presh, i couldn't remember which site it was on.