farming at nachals

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Since NO-ONE seems to give a normal answer to questions in the other subforums these days im asking it in general.



Hey Smile

Im gonna hit 69 most likely 2night, and at lvl 69 I start the farming. I will go 9-gapping from 69 to 70, thats gives me enough SP to get full farmed.

But i need some information, could anyone answer one or some of these questions please?!:

With a lvl 68 +3 spear with +44% mag dmg, can I 1shot them???
How much DMG do they do to a pure int?
How much % zombie reduce should I have (Idont use fire shield king or something)?
Is 6000hp enough to get 5 of them attacking you without dieing, im using garment

Already thanks alot ppl!

[woutR]

I don't think you will be able to 1shot them. You will find out soon enough anyway.
Best is 100% reduce
Damage done to you in garment is piss weak, you will be able to take 5 mobs, easy.

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Thx:)

Well about the search, phpBB system just SUCKS so does its search system

[ShaimeBlade]

if you are want to farm at lv69.. i think u need to go to takla matan and kill death karas u can kill with 1 nuke and lot of mob and just some ppl..
or hunt egw's because the pure int CANT kill the nachal with 68+3 spear. ;(

[Crumpets]

I don't think you will be able to 1shot them. You will find out soon enough anyway.
Best is 100% reduce
Damage done to you in garment is piss weak, you will be able to take 5 mobs, easy.

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Yeah he will be, if not his build sux balls. I'm PURE int 116% mag balance lvl 68 and they hit me for 1 ~ 100 damage. I can tank every nachal in the room without dieing. Oh ... IMO Fire shield is a must tho >.> I'm immune to everything except burn so I never need to buy a pill. You may have problems if you get ganged and your pills fail to work. Zombie + gang bang = dead.

Alltho.. if you 1 shot them no need to worry

I'm 68 and have 6572 hp PURE INT. Never once died here.. as I said .. whole room easy. Btw Masteries are EVERYTHING maxed to 60.

Oh my current weapon is a sos+5 blade 22% mag .. I do 7.5k dmg.
Just about to pimp my 68 sword out and then easy 1 shot. 8k +

[LuCiDiTy]

I don't think you will be able to 1shot them. You will find out soon enough anyway.
Best is 100% reduce
Damage done to you in garment is piss weak, you will be able to take 5 mobs, easy.

Search was invented for a reason...

Yeah he will be, if not his build sux balls. I'm PURE int 116% mag balance lvl 68 and they hit me for 1 ~ 100 damage. I can tank every nachal in the room without dieing. Oh ... IMO Fire shield is a must tho >.> I'm immune to everything except burn so I never need to buy a pill. You may have problems if you get ganged and your pills fail to work. Zombie + gang bang = dead.

Alltho.. if you 1 shot them no need to worry

I'm 68 and have 6572 hp PURE INT. Never once died here.. as I said .. whole room easy. Btw Masteries are EVERYTHING maxed to 60.

Oh my current weapon is a sos+5 blade 22% mag .. I do 7.5k dmg.
Just about to pimp my 68 sword out and then easy 1 shot. 8k +

he is pure int spear. He should do more dmg than a pure int sword. Is nachals attacks magic? Or why garment on a pure int spear?

[purified]

I was already farming there at 65, full INT, garment, lvl 3 fire shield-king and atleast 7-10 % zombie reduce on your accessories. Its always good to farm there from 66-72 for a full INT. Two shotting nachals is already good enough, I even kill them before they even get to hit me unless I have about 20 of the things surrounding me

Some pictures

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thx all

ill try to get +10% or more on ALL my jewels, again, thanks alot!

If someone got something to add, please do it!

[Saigon713]

I don't think you will be able to 1shot them. You will find out soon enough anyway.
Best is 100% reduce
Damage done to you in garment is piss weak, you will be able to take 5 mobs, easy.

Search was invented for a reason...

Yeah he will be, if not his build sux balls. I'm PURE int 116% mag balance lvl 68 and they hit me for 1 ~ 100 damage. I can tank every nachal in the room without dieing. Oh ... IMO Fire shield is a must tho >.> I'm immune to everything except burn so I never need to buy a pill. You may have problems if you get ganged and your pills fail to work. Zombie + gang bang = dead.

Alltho.. if you 1 shot them no need to worry

I'm 68 and have 6572 hp PURE INT. Never once died here.. as I said .. whole room easy. Btw Masteries are EVERYTHING maxed to 60.

Oh my current weapon is a sos+5 blade 22% mag .. I do 7.5k dmg.
Just about to pimp my 68 sword out and then easy 1 shot. 8k +

Can you say Perfect Alchemy, I knew a spear nuker could get 114% mag balance(kuz i knew one )

With Shield you can get 115.. and the Gold Dragon Flag adds 2 Int, Now 116% is max eh

Nice

Now for the poster..

Nice question for someone who is 69 =)

*Do Int monsters hurt me in garment!? Do i need Fire Shield!?*

Interesting..

Well GL with Farming, and I suggest hitting 72 and Farming, 72 Weapon acts as a 76 weapon Stats wise, much much higher, =), your choice though

[Crumpets]

bah proof

Not yet a full 1-shot .. this is a uhmm 68+4 61% mag sword.

[Stallowned]

Nachals are a gift for pure int or other int based builds.
I'm not even pure int and I've stood up to like 3 giants and a bunch of regulars the other day but ended up having to run because I really couldn't see shit from all their attacks.
100% zombie reduction is a must if you plan to fight in the "scary room", which must have 500 nachals if you are alone. If you plan on fighting in the first room, zombie reduce will of course help but isn't necessary since you shouldn't have 500 on you at once and thus are less likely to get farked over by pots acting before pills or pills not acting because of delay or whatever.

[Doru]

Can you say Perfect Alchemy, I knew a spear nuker could get 114% mag balance(kuz i knew one )

With Shield you can get 115.. and the Gold Dragon Flag adds 2 Int, Now 116% is max eh

At L68, pure int has 87 str, 288 int - thats 96.0% balance naked. If a person has 5 int on each of the 12 items, thats 348 int - thats 116.0% balance naked. But then once you add on the gold flag you have 350 int - thats 116.7% balance. Thus, the maximum mag. balance at L68 is 117% (rounded up).

To the poster, I don't understand why you don't just go into the room and find out the answer to your questions - it would take less than 5 minutes.

I would guess that a L68+3 spear with L60 masteries would be right on the edge of one hitting, hard to say (if you had masteries at L68 I would think you would one hit). Getting a 40% increase in attack rating might really help you get over the hump and one hit with more consistency (IMO perfect atk. rating increase is almost a requirement for a spear anyway). It also might be worth your time going for +5 as it might be the difference maker, and if you grind the entire level at 9 level gap, that will be a looooong time.

As everyone said, don't worry about death, you should be able to tank LOTS with ease. Only thing is you don't have fire shield . . . I wouldn't worry too much about getting killed via zombie (I never even got close when testing with pills), but you will go thru lots of pills. Make sure you always have enough and you should be fine - and don't bother upgrading jewels, its a waste unless you have fire shield to get you over the 100% hump.

FYI - I was still grinding there at L73 (and may still go back even yet until they are blue) with a L68+5 spear, L73 masteries and could rage the entire room solo with ease. In fact, when I had the entire room to myself I think its the best spot in the game for a pure int, even better than the bandits den . . . and people wonder how a legit player could already be L75. ROFL.

[iGod]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/-Chester-/lolosaurus.jpg

bah proof

Not yet a full 1-shot .. this is a uhmm 68+4 61% mag sword.

TIMMYEEEE

rofl @ the gc btw.

[i_hydrate_i]

im the best person to answer this question for u..im level 69 farming at nachals i have two spears a sos 64+9 and i way over hit them with 11k nukes..i have been trying out my 68+4 fully imped (very good blues) spear and 70% of the time i 1 shot them...but of course my magic balance is between 113-114% i have ALLOT of int 5 stuff im using sos armor and getting hit between 300-700 and ican have 10+on me without dieing (i do use xlarge pots however, they last a LONG time at 45% pots)

[i_hydrate_i]

im the best person to answer this question for u..im level 69 farming at nachals i have two spears a sos 64+9 and i way over hit them with 11k nukes..i have been trying out my 68+4 fully imped (very good blues) spear and 70% of the time i 1 shot them...but of course my magic balance is between 113-114% i have ALLOT of int 5 stuff im using sos armor and getting hit between 300-700 and ican have 10+on me without dieing (i do use xlarge pots however, they last a LONG time at 45% pots)

[Crumpets]

Same X-Large @ 40%

I take roughly 75 hp pots and 1300 mp pots. Still run out of mp be4 hp.

[_Medea_]

Get to 72 and use sword. You'll be able to stay there forever without dying.

My 72 sword is ridiculously better than the SOS i've seen and the people that one shot nachals at 70 cap were ones with SOS swords. My 72 sword has 250ish% reinforce while the SoS ones have around 230ish%

Also, invest in fire shield, you'll need it for ice immune in PVP anyway.

[cool2fool]

I was already farming there at 65, full INT, garment, lvl 3 fire shield-king and atleast 7-10 % zombie reduce on your accessories. Its always good to farm there from 66-72 for a full INT. Two shotting nachals is already good enough, I even kill them before they even get to hit me unless I have about 20 of the things surrounding me

Some pictures

OMG I didn't know pure int has that kind of HP

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Its not my fault I have some shitty gear.

[Golden]

you will one shot them. im lvl 69 pure iint ss farming at 70 i leae like | | that muchso when i get my skills up ill one shot.


Good Luck with your farming ^^

[[Raz0r]]

what's the approximate magical def of pure ints with garm with and without buffs?

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bah proof

Not yet a full 1-shot .. this is a uhmm 68+4 61% mag sword.

hmm so id guess i max heaven lion shout + the last book and start attacking with that so i can finish with my +3 spear, or mayb i can borrow a sos +7 spear from a guildy

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Well on topic:

Thanks all for your help! Im 69 now, maxxed fire shield king to 60, bought 300special pills, 200 x-large, 1000large MP, and +30% zombie reduce, in 1 hour no zombie at all, and they hit no more that 500 (except that special attack they use 1/5th the times.

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hmm, i didnt do fire shield king ONCE and i died within 30min >.<

[achmalach]

At L68, pure int has 87 str, 288 int - thats 96.0% balance naked. If a person has 5 int on each of the 12 items, thats 348 int - thats 116.0% balance naked. But then once you add on the gold flag you have 350 int - thats 116.7% balance. Thus, the maximum mag. balance at L68 is 117% (rounded up).

Eum how do you calculate the relation between points of int/str and the balance %?

[Crumpets]

hmm, i didnt do fire shield king ONCE and i died within 30min >.<

Ahh fire sheild king is a must, universal pills simply won't cut it.


Oh to answer that dudes 1615 mag defence ( Would be 50 points higher with lvl 3 hard fire BUT thats a 61 skill and my masterys are 60 MAXED )



Lost 9 int by switching to new set of 8th. BADDDD luck with alchemy now.