+6 without lucky powder

initialbee · Post by **initialbee** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:39 pm

today no mood to leveliong,so i decided to make my +5 lvl64 blade to +6,when i add weapon elxir into alchemy window and press fuse,i just release i haven't put lucky powder yet :banghead:

,but what so surprise,its was SUCCESSED

omg, i gonna +7 on my blade soon,without lucky powder i think

(jk)

HuyFong · Post by **HuyFong** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:49 pm

hehe gratz man. Just becareful of the negative attention you might get. Remember the best thing about going to +7 is that if it suceed its gold! If it fails, then so what make it back to +5 and its purple again. A lot of people put importance on +6 when its really not. So just go for it and have fun

again gratz bro

initialbee · Post by **initialbee** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:59 pm

actually i nv thought that i can +6,just try,maybe too nervous...i for got to put lucky powder...but its wrk

maybe its a bugs

mKaaru · Post by **mKaaru** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:08 pm

imagine how much money Joymax could make if they would add Lucky stones to Item Mall

lately there's been a such a high demand on lucky tabs/stones to +7 a weapon (especially the 8th degree ones) that doing so would really provide Joymax yet another valuable source of income

drop me sosun sword once cap raises and you implemented luckies in item mall Gargamel!

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:34 pm

Eh if they wanna make money they should sell Universal pills in bulks fo 500, i'd need that >.>.

But yeah whats the diff between stone and powder? I thoguth they were the same...

Zakaria · Post by **Zakaria** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:45 pm

i think lucky stones add a lucky atribute to ure wep
so if u use a lucky stone ure wep becomes------> lucky 1 times

and its like an extra lucky powder thats always on ure weapon ( i think

)

initialbee · Post by **initialbee** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:55 pm

..........+7 failed.....with adding lucky stone...also had add lucky powder this time... :cry:

next time i will try to make it withut lucky powder

kenbong · Post by **kenbong** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:01 pm

I just laugh at initialb33 when i saw him forget to put lucky powder to +6 his blade..But it's work... :banghead:

But after few minutes,it's MY TURN TO FORGET TO PUT LUCKY POWDER!!
I too nervous till i forget to put lucky powder.. :banghead:

No wonder i +5 for 5 times and all failed... :banghead:

I only realize i forget to put lucky powder when i saw my inventory still have 5 lucky powder which i buy before i do alchemy.. :banghead:

He laugh till his stomachache and i feel upset for it.. :banghead:

A damn shit unlucky alchemy day...Now +5 gone... :banghead:

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:59 pm

Zakaria wrote:i think lucky stones add a lucky atribute to ure wep
so if u use a lucky stone ure wep becomes------> lucky 1 times

and its like an extra lucky powder thats always on ure weapon ( i think )

Thats wah ta i was thinkin... so I dont understand why in Olympus, possibly other servers a lucky stone goes for 2-3m ( degree 8 ), while powders cost 100K+

Chaby · Post by **Chaby** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:02 pm

Lucky is like a double chancer. If the alchemy fails, it's like it's done again with lucky on item.

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:03 pm

Arr right thnx chabs

zexy · Post by **zexy** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:16 pm

kenbong wrote:I just laugh at initialb33 when i saw him forget to put lucky powder to +6 his blade..But it's work...
But after few minutes,it's MY TURN TO FORGET TO PUT LUCKY POWDER!!
I too nervous till i forget to put lucky powder..
No wonder i +5 for 5 times and all failed...
I only realize i forget to put lucky powder when i saw my inventory still have 5 lucky powder which i buy before i do alchemy..
He laugh till his stomachache and i feel upset for it..
A damn shit unlucky alchemy day...Now +5 gone...

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :shock:

zexy · Post by **zexy** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:17 pm

Chaby wrote:Lucky is like a double chancer. If the alchemy fails, it's like it's done again with lucky on item.

I doubt luck works that way.

Drachenklaue · Post by **Drachenklaue** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:33 pm

Maybe luck (as powder and stone) isn't implemented in alchemy calculation at all and it's just a random generator behind all calculations.

PhaiKia · Post by **PhaiKia** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:51 pm

initialbee wrote:..........+7 failed.....with adding lucky stone...also had add lucky powder this time... next time i will try to make it withut lucky powder

LOL.. how many days ? you can't sleep.. after failed to +7

SuicideGrl · Post by **SuicideGrl** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:03 pm

zexy wrote:
Chaby wrote:Lucky is like a double chancer. If the alchemy fails, it's like it's done again with lucky on item.

I doubt luck works that way.

the way i understand it, every alchemy try is a random dice roll.

if you press fuse and the random value you get falls outside the range of what would be a "success" for that enchantment, then either a) the item fails or b) lucky kicks in and it gets rerolled.

lucky powder, however, merely adds to the chance of success. not sure if the bonus from the powder applies to both rolls or just the initial one, meaning if you fail and the lucky stat causes a reroll, does the powder bonus apply to that too? not sure. i would assume yes, but without seeing the code i dunno.

HuyFong · Post by **HuyFong** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:50 pm

I really don't know how lucky works but all I know is that every single time I have lucky on an item or added it onto my item it always fails. I have never had lucky worked on +4 or above.

+7 :arrow:

add lucky stone :arrow:

add weap elixir :arrow:

failed

+8

add lucky stone :arrow:

add weap elixir :arrow:

failed

+7

no lucky

suceed +8

no lucky

suceed +9

lucky stone is bugged & overpriced

MasterPuxxy · Post by **MasterPuxxy** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:27 am

HuyFong wrote:I really don't know how lucky works but all I know is that every single time I have lucky on an item or added it onto my item it always fails. I have never had lucky worked on +4 or above.

+7 add lucky stone add weap elixir failed
+8 add lucky stone add weap elixir failed

+7 no lucky suceed +8 no lucky suceed +9 lucky stone is bugged & overpriced

LOL! Cannnot be more ture!
I have 5 lucky stone, try to +7 failed! Up to now, it has waste about 30 astral!
Man.... cry about it!
WELL , the weapon itself is a beast, once have 4 crit in a row!

initialbee · Post by **initialbee** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:39 pm

HuyFong wrote:I really don't know how lucky works but all I know is that every single time I have lucky on an item or added it onto my item it always fails. I have never had lucky worked on +4 or above.

+7 add lucky stone add weap elixir failed
+8 add lucky stone add weap elixir failed

+7 no lucky suceed +8 no lucky suceed +9 lucky stone is bugged & overpriced

hmm......i gonna try to make it without lucky,included lucky powder

Drachenklaue · Post by **Drachenklaue** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:33 pm

Want to see the algorithm.
...
Anyone willing to marry one of the developpers?

Quyxz · Post by **Quyxz** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:51 pm

Do lucky powders increase your chance of succeedin, then ?

initialbee · Post by **initialbee** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:35 pm

Quyxz wrote:Do lucky powders increase your chance of succeedin, then ?

just try