I wouldn't be surprised. That is probably the reason there are more bots than actual players in the game. The game was made to support bots initially which is what makes it easy for people to develop them as such.
William-CL wrote:I wouldn't be surprised. That is probably the reason there are more bots than actual players in the game. The game was made to support bots initially which is what makes it easy for people to develop them as such.
+1
And I also wouldn't be surprised if joymax built in these functions with the purpose of benefiting from selling bot programs or bot time rather... It might have been there initially for testing purposes (or not). Or they might have just coded this into the game who knows...either way it seems to provide the framework/platform for botting.....You can never trust shitmax
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William-CL wrote:I wouldn't be surprised. That is probably the reason there are more bots than actual players in the game. The game was made to support bots initially which is what makes it easy for people to develop them as such.
+1
And I also wouldn't be surprised if joymax built in these functions with the purpose of benefiting from selling bot programs or bot time rather... It might have been there initially for testing purposes (or not). Or they might have just coded this into the game who knows...either way it seems to provide the framework/platform for botting.....You can never trust shitmax
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joymax do not sell bot programs or gold, i cant be asked to explain the reason.
The idea isn't farfetched...no need to facepalm....I don`t want to get into why it is possible either because I've been back and forth on the topic myself. The only thing I will offer here is that when you add up the cash made from selling gold and renting bot time and multiply that by the number of servers you get into the hundreds of thousands of dollars being leeched off the game...I don`t see joymax allowing that to happen when they make a big fuss if you and me try to do a simple charge-back on our credit cards.....Again you can`t trust shitmax
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I don't see any company releasing a game that would advertise that they will allow botting and allow gold buying as that would probably have a negative effect on their initial success...This has the effect of ruining game content off the bat and might deter players who can't readily buy anything online. (which amounts to a larger portion of the community.
There is already a sizable gap between those who can buy silk and those who cannot. And silk buyers often enjoy the game a little more than those non silk buyers....Adding botting time and gold to the list of silk items would only increase that gap further. It is better for joymax to act under the pretense that this gap is being created illegally and that they are trying to fix it rather than widening that gap themselves.
It was probably not the intent of joymax to create a game where botting is allowed but since botting and gold buying has become so prevalent they found ways to use it to their financial advantage by allowing it under some backdoor agreement. So in other words they might not have created bot programs themselves but they allow these gold/bot selling companies to continue for the aforementioned reason.
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not true... dont csro have a bot in their game.... so they included a bot. and lots of mmorpg's have the ability to buy in game gold... or to sell items that you can purchase with real money.
the backdoor agreement would also be stopped by what csro have done in banning all illegal programs used when starting the game and you can get banned for using a bot that isnt theirs afaik
Why have a backdoor agreement when they can just spawn gold, doesn't make sense to me.
Joymax doesn't have an agreement with gold selling companies imo but they are doing nothing to stop them too.
Some of my friends are regular customers of gold selling companies and they are pretty sure that there isn't an agreement with the company they are buying from and Joymax.
So in the first week in college i went with jeans and the pajama's shirt. Didn't notice what i was wearing till after i returned home.
Maybe they just use gold bots to fill the server, still doesnt sound right :/, also i would never be surprised if they actually run bots or something, also if joymax sells gold(not under jm name) and doesnt use gold bots it will look weird because everyone will wonder how did this "company" get all of this gold.
Agree with BuDo... If Joymax really wanted to stop every bot / gold selling company there was, they could do it instantly.. They are making money (shitloads of it, as well) off both of them, so they will always be around.
Snazzi wrote:Agree with BuDo... If Joymax really wanted to stop every bot / gold selling company there was, they could do it instantly.. They are making money (shitloads of it, as well) off both of them, so they will always be around.
u can think what you want.... but youre still wrong.
if they wanted full servers they could just lower server capacity. it makes no sense at all for joymax to own bots or have some sort of agreement with them in any sense.
penfold1992 wrote:not true... dont csro have a bot in their game.... so they included a bot. and lots of mmorpg's have the ability to buy in game gold... or to sell items that you can purchase with real money.
the backdoor agreement would also be stopped by what csro have done in banning all illegal programs used when starting the game and you can get banned for using a bot that isnt theirs afaik
So what are you saying?...Joymax does offer us or allow us to bot but pretend that they don't want botters? This isn't csro...they never claim that you can use an isro sanction bot...You're not making any sense of situation or offering any logical inferences......
If I am to follow what you've been saying from your postings I would deduce that joymax isn't in agreement with bot companies or gold companies and that they are just truly helpless on the situation....and they allow these things to happen...allow hundreds of thousands of dollars to be leeched off of their creation while they ban you and me over a $20-$30 credit card charge-back which doesn't make sense either..Since when joymax doesn't care about money?
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Snazzi wrote:Agree with BuDo... If Joymax really wanted to stop every bot / gold selling company there was, they could do it instantly.. They are making money (shitloads of it, as well) off both of them, so they will always be around.
u can think what you want.... but youre still wrong.
if they wanted full servers they could just lower server capacity. it makes no sense at all for joymax to own bots or have some sort of agreement with them in any sense.
They don't have to own them but they can indeed have a backdoor agreement with them....The logical reasoning behind this could be that rather than fighting against gold bot companies who will always find ways to leech money from joymax's customers why not let them be as long as joymax gets a cut. That does make sense. Joymax is all about making money..like any other corporation....Use your brain..they would not allow gold bot companies to make tons of money from their creation and they stand there and do nothing....That is almost as bad as allowing thieves into your store and watch them sell what they stole from you to the customers that walked into your store....
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Snazzi wrote:Agree with BuDo... If Joymax really wanted to stop every bot / gold selling company there was, they could do it instantly.. They are making money (shitloads of it, as well) off both of them, so they will always be around.
u can think what you want.... but youre still wrong.
if they wanted full servers they could just lower server capacity. it makes no sense at all for joymax to own bots or have some sort of agreement with them in any sense.
They don't have to own them but they can indeed have a backdoor agreement with them....The logical reasoning behind this could be that rather than fighting against gold bot companies who will always find ways to leech money from joymax's customers why not let them be as long as joymax gets a cut. That does make sense. Joymax is all about making money..like any other corporation....Use your brain..they would not allow gold bot companies to make tons of money from their creation and they stand there and do nothing....That is almost as bad as allowing thieves into your store and watch them sell what they stole from you to the customers that walked into your store....
Couldn't have said it any better. Joymax finally realised that fighting against the bots was a huge waste of time because there are people out there who are willing to spend weeks on end finding how they can get past the last 'patch' Joymax made. I bet it is AMAZING profit for them.. What good company denies an almost flawless way of making money?
Yes infact Joymax did create there own IG bot, i belive it was either J/k/c sro which actually sold there own bot to there players i cant remember which, when i was working on Atomix in the early days i discovered this also and its quite obviously a bot. Why? Because in some countrys they try and stop there players playing for long periods of time and instead of players loosing intrest and limiting there time they offer an alternative method where there players can physicaly keep playing and still not be at there computers for large amounts of time. The iSRO community does not accept the botting like other versions see it as a natural thing which is evident in many other games, so i imajine thats why iSRO never offered it to there players.
Kellogz wrote:Yes infact Joymax did create there own IG bot, i belive it was either J/k/c sro which actually sold there own bot to there players i cant remember which, when i was working on Atomix in the early days i discovered this also and its quite obviously a bot. Why? Because in some countrys they try and stop there players playing for long periods of time and instead of players loosing intrest and limiting there time they offer an alternative method where there players can physicaly keep playing and still not be at there computers for large amounts of time. The iSRO community does not accept the botting like other versions see it as a natural thing which is evident in many other games, so i imajine thats why iSRO never offered it to there players.
just my 2 cents.
that was vsro, and it was because the law prohibited play of video games past 5 hours a day so this recharge system was actually stolen from them.
Kellogz wrote:Yes infact Joymax did create there own IG bot, i belive it was either J/k/c sro which actually sold there own bot to there players i cant remember which, when i was working on Atomix in the early days i discovered this also and its quite obviously a bot. Why? Because in some countrys they try and stop there players playing for long periods of time and instead of players loosing intrest and limiting there time they offer an alternative method where there players can physicaly keep playing and still not be at there computers for large amounts of time. The iSRO community does not accept the botting like other versions see it as a natural thing which is evident in many other games, so i imajine thats why iSRO never offered it to there players.
just my 2 cents.
That's interesting....But I still believe that allowing it can do more harm than good. It has great potential to ruin game content experience as well as diminishing the social aspect of the game which is very important....But to each his own...draw your own conclusion and live by it
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