warlock discussion

[whatta]

Guys i'm thinking to make one but i have 3 choices
1) hybrid lock (8-1 or 7-2 dunno)+cleric
2) pure int lock+cleric+10 warrior for shield trash
3) hybrid lock+cleric+10 warrior for shield trash
any opinions?

[CeLL]

Guys i'm thinking to make one but i have 3 choices
1) hybrid lock (8-1 or 7-2 dunno)+cleric
2) pure int lock+cleric+10 warrior for shield trash
3) hybrid lock+cleric+10 warrior for shield trash
any opinions?

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[Koffe]

Guys i'm thinking to make one but i have 3 choices
1) hybrid lock (8-1 or 7-2 dunno)+cleric
2) pure int lock+cleric+10 warrior for shield trash
3) hybrid lock+cleric+10 warrior for shield trash
any opinions?

1).

Thats my new build on Eos
Btw, if you really whant to kill an HolySpell character, you can stun+pure offering for 1hit-kill.
Its not cool, but in fw it works

[DonBebek]

So I'm gonna try the warlock/bard build on the new server
That is for sure. But I'm having second thoughts about taking pure int or hybrid
Some say hybrid, some say int
If you have any GOOD arguments about what to take, post here, and maybe people could decide
better.

[ahmedsabry]

Guys i'm thinking to make one but i have 3 choices
1) hybrid lock (8-1 or 7-2 dunno)+cleric
2) pure int lock+cleric+10 warrior for shield trash
3) hybrid lock+cleric+10 warrior for shield trash
any opinions?

1)best for grinding.. i'd say 8-1 or even 9-1
2)second best for grinding.. ur giving up a little defencive power and a little offensive power from 'offering' for the ability to interrupt enemy attacks and keeping him at distance. this is lifesaving in many situations, and takes less sp.
3-best for pvp.. might be a little slow on grinding, and a bit dangerous since u'll have less healing. but u'll be OWNAGE in pvp unless ur against someone with 'holy spell'

[Patronus]

go pure int for sure, ofc u cant tank everything but who can? warlock arent made to tank lols make a warrior for that, and if u think is hard to kill a guy with holy spell as pure int just imagine how hard will be if u go hibrid, me as pure int overhit a hibrid warlcok with sun +5, he never killed me when he had a +7 rod, now with sun we draw kills , shield trash is wonderfull vs melee builds, i used it at 8d but now i dont have any masterys left to get it again >.<

[ahmedsabry]

go pure int for sure, ofc u cant tank everything but who can? warlock arent made to tank lols make a warrior for that, and if u think is hard to kill a guy with holy spell as pure int just imagine how hard will be if u go hibrid, me as pure int overhit a hibrid warlcok with sun +5, he never killed me when he had a +7 rod, now with sun we draw kills , shield trash is wonderfull vs melee builds, i used it at 8d but now i dont have any masterys left to get it again >.<

hybrid warlocks can tank almost anything with Combat Raze and shield trash actually..

[Patronus]

what is the meaning of tank if you cant kill?
kinda useless for me
and what u will do if u cant debuff ur enemy?

anyway i can tank everythink with bless (as i said in another post only rogues are a problem coz xtrem/desesperate) btw do u have a warlock?

[penfold1992]

what is the meaning of tank if you cant kill?
kinda useless for me
and what u will do if u cant debuff ur enemy?

anyway i can tank everythink with bless (as i said in another post only rogues are a problem coz xtrem/desesperate) btw do u have a warlock?

bless in pvp is soo noob.
like snow nd the fences or skins
just lame as hell

[CeLL]

what is the meaning of tank if you cant kill?
kinda useless for me
and what u will do if u cant debuff ur enemy?

anyway i can tank everythink with bless (as i said in another post only rogues are a problem coz xtrem/desesperate) btw do u have a warlock?

bless in pvp is soo noob.
like snow nd the fences or skins
just lame as hell

yeah so is kd, kb, firewall, icewall, nukes, weapon attacks and lion shocks. stupid noobs, using skills, and tactics.

[DonBebek]

what is the meaning of tank if you cant kill?
kinda useless for me
and what u will do if u cant debuff ur enemy?

anyway i can tank everythink with bless (as i said in another post only rogues are a problem coz xtrem/desesperate) btw do u have a warlock?

bless in pvp is soo noob.
like snow nd the fences or skins
just lame as hell

yeah so is kd, kb, firewall, icewall, nukes, weapon attacks and lion shocks. stupid noobs, using skills, and tactics.

Exactly

[ahmedsabry]

what is the meaning of tank if you cant kill?
kinda useless for me
and what u will do if u cant debuff ur enemy?

anyway i can tank everythink with bless (as i said in another post only rogues are a problem coz xtrem/desesperate) btw do u have a warlock?

bless in pvp is soo noob.
like snow nd the fences or skins
just lame as hell

yeah so is kd, kb, firewall, icewall, nukes, weapon attacks and lion shocks. stupid noobs, using skills, and tactics.

+1
s/s nukers for example are one hell of a JOKE without thier snow.. its never wrong to use a skill u have just because it makes noobs unable to kill u -.-
anyway bless only lasts for 45 seconds so u cant rely on it.. u need a strategy to stay alive. Hell, im a warrior and i have bless AND skins and im saying that because there is a microscopic 30 second gap to reuse those skills. but its a fact if u cant get ur opponent killed in 45 seconds and u have no backup plan, ur done..

[Patronus]

bless in pvp is soo noob.
like snow nd the fences or skins
just lame as hell

where did i said i use bless to pvp? i said i can use it if i want to tank.
snow isnt a problem for me i LOVE when chineses use it, ofc i use it sometimes (i mean bless), when my rival use bugs to get advantage, as u see its an skill, looks like u still play in cap 70 or so

[monkey.]

bless in pvp is soo noob.
like snow nd the fences or skins
just lame as hell

Skills are given to use not be called noob for them. There is more than enough turks saying that. Dont join them. If you pvp someone that use his own cleric sub to use bless or warrior with skins its fair, if someone else buffs your opponent then ofc its noob. But if self buffed then you're just stupid to understand that its part of game and whine like other kids for using these skills in PvP. :/

[Berto]

bless in pvp is soo noob.
like snow nd the fences or skins
just lame as hell

where did i said i use bless to pvp? i said i can use it if i want to tank.
snow isnt a problem for me i LOVE when chineses use it, ofc i use it sometimes (i mean bless), when my rival use bugs to get advantage, as u see its an skill, looks like u still play in cap 70 or so

Mm, lemme tell yah something. First off, "What is the meaning of tanking if you can't kill?" Warlocks aren't all about damage. You need to find a balance between damage and tanking in order to be successful. A fragile warlock is a burden. I was still killing in 80 cap with a 72+3 warlock rod. It's about a balance, warlocks can kill str users easily with a variety of dot's and nukes. When it comes to ints, warlock clerics have an array of absolute damage skills that are fast casting to destroy the enemy effeciently. I RARELY ever use bless in pvp, I find it noobish. I lol when warlocks will tell the person "wait 4 bless i n0t rdy." Uhh go back to practicing how to play.
I don't have 90 cleric either. With a heavy hybrid like me (83- 85%) and 80 cleric, I still had the ability to go robes. Robes = 20% extra healing with faith passive which allows me to supply that lost healing power and I still get full hp with no prob. AND I still 1 hit with offering no prob. I suppose the satire in my other posts couldn't translate within the thread.
Hybrid is tested and proven. You won't see any pure int warlocks in my server (save 1 or 2), many were direct inspirations from me.
Good luck with your pure int......LOL

[DonBebek]

You are all talking about pvp and builds for pvp
Don't you have something to say about pve and is there any difference in builds and their efficiency in pve

[Patronus]

u should come sparta and see how many warlocks are here, then ask how many are hibrids (most of them), and ask people who i pvpd, most of them think im hibrid coz they cant kill me (i dont use to use the hidden/sleep bug btw) its not about get more hp or less for me, its about how to use the skills in rigth time, so bad we arent in same server and test it

[Bread_Fish]

bless in pvp is soo noob.
like snow nd the fences or skins
just lame as hell

where did i said i use bless to pvp? i said i can use it if i want to tank.
snow isnt a problem for me i LOVE when chineses use it, ofc i use it sometimes (i mean bless), when my rival use bugs to get advantage, as u see its an skill, looks like u still play in cap 70 or so

Mm, lemme tell yah something. First off, "What is the meaning of tanking if you can't kill?" Warlocks aren't all about damage. You need to find a balance between damage and tanking in order to be successful. A fragile warlock is a burden. I was still killing in 80 cap with a 72+3 warlock rod. It's about a balance, warlocks can kill str users easily with a variety of dot's and nukes. When it comes to ints, warlock clerics have an array of absolute damage skills that are fast casting to destroy the enemy effeciently. I RARELY ever use bless in pvp, I find it noobish. I lol when warlocks will tell the person "wait 4 bless i n0t rdy." Uhh go back to practicing how to play.
I don't have 90 cleric either. With a heavy hybrid like me (83- 85%) and 80 cleric, I still had the ability to go robes. Robes = 20% extra healing with faith passive which allows me to supply that lost healing power and I still get full hp with no prob. AND I still 1 hit with offering no prob. I suppose the satire in my other posts couldn't translate within the thread.
Hybrid is tested and proven. You won't see any pure int warlocks in my server (save 1 or 2), many were direct inspirations from me.
Good luck with your pure int......LOL

you just put your fingers in your ears and say "lalalalala" til everyone stops talking dont you

pure it warlock cleric is also tested and proven so its not NECESSARY to go hybrid because you dont NEED to sacrifice damage to stay alive
if you play you warlock correctly your enemy will never even touch you
and thats not including sleep trapping and shield trash

[Berto]

Lol okay, I've seen plenty warlocks in my days and seen them fail and succeed. Not to mention being able to be independent while fighting off 2+ people gang banging me as an added bonus. Go ahead and get killed with a single crit because I would rather not. I've got what it's called experience, played my warlock since the day euro came out.

[penfold1992]

because outside blessing fking noobs are the usual culpret.

nukers are useles without bless? thats absolute rubbish. if any1 uses bless snowshield or skins i will just run around for 1min till its off of them so i can pvp with properly.

ice wall and fire wall are supposed to be destroyed, i only use them with intent of blocking 1 shot otherwise i dont use them. however a fully skinned fenced bless 2h is just taking the piss. these skills should have a longer recharge time so outside buff users cant just sit in a party with like 7 other cleric bards just handing him bless.

o well thats uranus for you

i even let these people kill me over and over again and i just take my equip of cuz i know if i bother 2 kill them they will call apon outside buffers and makes pvp shit.

sno isnt so bad cuz its fun killing glavies mp lol but appart from that its just a INVINCABLE FOR 1M BUTTON!

[ahmedsabry]

easy guys.. its a fact that both full INT and hybrid locks are good, and are both proven.
its just a way of playing your character.. u can go full int s/s nuker and u can go hybrid and both are strong. u can even go hybrid BLADER for god's sake, and still be successfull. (there is a video of a hybrid blader raping everone in his way somwhere.. not really sure about the name. i guess Barotix knows about that guy.)
i even know hybrid warrior/locks who go a little hybrid for mana increase and are still as devastating.
chill guys..

[Berto]

easy guys.. its a fact that both full INT and hybrid locks are good, and are both proven.
its just a way of playing your character.. u can go full int s/s nuker and u can go hybrid and both are strong. u can even go hybrid BLADER for god's sake, and still be successfull. (there is a video of a hybrid blader raping everone in his way somwhere.. not really sure about the name. i guess Barotix knows about that guy.)
i even know hybrid warrior/locks who go a little hybrid for mana increase and are still as devastating.
chill guys..

Hybrid warrior locks? ROFL

[Crumpets]

easy guys.. its a fact that both full INT and hybrid locks are good, and are both proven.
its just a way of playing your character.. u can go full int s/s nuker and u can go hybrid and both are strong. u can even go hybrid BLADER for god's sake, and still be successfull. (there is a video of a hybrid blader raping everone in his way somwhere.. not really sure about the name. i guess Barotix knows about that guy.)
i even know hybrid warrior/locks who go a little hybrid for mana increase and are still as devastating.
chill guys..

Hybrid warrior locks? ROFL

Seriosuly lol. If you want better mana efficiency just go robes .....

[ahmedsabry]

easy guys.. its a fact that both full INT and hybrid locks are good, and are both proven.
its just a way of playing your character.. u can go full int s/s nuker and u can go hybrid and both are strong. u can even go hybrid BLADER for god's sake, and still be successfull. (there is a video of a hybrid blader raping everone in his way somwhere.. not really sure about the name. i guess Barotix knows about that guy.)
i even know hybrid warrior/locks who go a little hybrid for mana increase and are still as devastating.
chill guys..

Hybrid warrior locks? ROFL

Seriosuly lol. If you want better mana efficiency just go robes .....

the guy's name was "virulence" as far as i remember. DA/lock at the 80 cap.. has a nice video out there.
he didnt use DOTs and stuff, but i dont think they would have been too bad