Argonaut wrote:Taelys wrote:I didn't like Venus too much. The community is very nice, best of all the servers
But if your build isn't fitting in the ideal build model you don't find parties. So no chinese build, no rogues, not a kind of experimenting build. If there are too many warriors when you start you're definitely out of parties, if there are too many wizzies when you start you're definitely out of parties.
If you want to start on Venus contact a guild master first and ask what build he needs, stick to the rules and don't think by yourself, the masters think for you. And be prepared to wait hours before you are allowed in a party.
You can build a chinese. You can build a rogue. You can build an "experimenting build". (whatever that is)
Just don't expect us to hold your hand while you do it. Venus has the
most parties of any server. We don't promise to have a party every day, every minute. Chinese? Meant to solo. You don't see any chinese on any other server bitching because they "cant find parties".
Seriously though, get the fu
.ck out of this topic please, thanks.

Don't try to pretend like you actually care when all you want to do is talk shit about this server. The topic starter is looking for advice on a less populated/bot infested server, not some rejects bitch fit.
I agree with the whole thing how if you plan to play on Venus, you lose your right to choose.
Thats bullshit, you can choose whatever you want.
When I joined, the first thing I was told was to ask the guild masters which build they needed. Even though I wanted to be a warrior, I had to go Wiz/Cler since they needed them the most. I had to be wiz, since they said it would be near impossible to get in parties with other builds.
No one forced you to become a wiz/cleric, thats bullshit. I know of
NO legit guildmaster on Venus who would even think of making someone choose a build. They all say "choose the build you like the best".
Worst part of all, some of them can spend 5+hours aday grinding. So if you dont spend the same amount of time as them, your pretty much left behind, and have to go look for a lower level party.(If they even want you in their party, since all of a sudden they dont need your build.)
So what? They want to grind 5 hours a day, you are really that greedy that you want to make them wait for you? Its their choice.
Granted, the legits do dominate the server, but the whole idea of piece and harmony amongst all is boring. FW are lame as they will ever be, Jobbing is kept to a minimum since every body is "friends" and dont want to hunt/thief you since they dont want to get in shit with the Guild master/union master.
Have you SEEN the latest war? 300+ people in the area at once. Even my computer lagged. There is TONS of legit conflict as well as bot conflict. Legits murder each others parties, fight each other - we just unite to kill bots.

The whole Idea of "you can only experience true euro play on venus" is boggus. You can experience that on any server, as long as you know where to look. I should also mention that if your Chinese on Venus, people automaticly assume your a bot, since your not in a 8/8 party. But you cant get into a 8/8 party since your chinese. Its a paradox really.
People won't automatically assume your a bot if your chinese unless you suddenly "pop" out of nowhere at lvl 70. If your in a legit guild and your chinese, no one will think your a bot. Even if your not in a legit guild and chinese, as long as your name is out there, no one will think your a bot. Again, your chinese .... you are meant to solo.
So if you want to go on a server, where you worship two powerhungry people, then Venus is the server for you. A place where you are ruled by dictatorship
Pick a corner. Buy tissues. Cry your emo heart out. Don't forget to get a dictionary and look up "confederation", because thats what Venus is ruled by.
I suggest you stay on your server, or try others for yourself. Go to dw look at the pvp there, look at the globals, try to watch some of the jobbing, or the Guild wars. Make the decision for yourself, not for somebody else
PvP in Venus is at SAMARKAND, not dw.
You say that you visited Venus, yet you don't know that?