Avalon VS Epic [56K WARNING]

[[SD]Kratos]

Even if avalon lost, this just proved how botters are noobish and how avalon is so strong compared to them.

Botters needed to invite ALL SERVER (not only their union) to win vs ONE GUILD

See u at rematch saturday

[Epinephrine]

If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be invites to guild -> they are dumb
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be outside buffers -> they are even dumber
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be lags due to massiv amount of players -> the dumbness has new names..

Come on be serious. What do you expect? This was more then a Ava vs Epic war. It was a legit vs botters war. If they ever thought it would be something different then just lol.

[Norain_]

If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be invites to guild -> they are dumb
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be outside buffers -> they are even dumber
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be lags due to massiv amount of players -> the dumbness has new names..

Come on be serious. What do you expect? This was more then a Ava vs Epic war. It was a legit vs botters war. If they ever thought it would be something different then just lol.

Wow ur dumber than ur last ''the tumbness has new names...''
It wasnt a legit Vs Botter. It was Avalon Vs Epic. Ok it was but that wasnt the deal that Fly and Epic made at the first place.

[JustaDude]

If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be invites to guild -> they are dumb
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be outside buffers -> they are even dumber
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be lags due to massiv amount of players -> the dumbness has new names..

Come on be serious. What do you expect? This was more then a Ava vs Epic war. It was a legit vs botters war. If they ever thought it would be something different then just lol.

Wow ur dumber than ur last ''the tumbness has new names...''
It wasnt a legit Vs Botter. It was Avalon Vs Epic. Ok it was but that wasnt the deal that Fly and Epic made at the first place.

Then your dumbness come to air if you didnt imagine they would "cheat" like you guys said, i just see it as they were smart enought to make up an strategy, You Venus people think you're at some sort of E-War, well my friend In war everything is fair.

And i can bet any amount of $ that if Avalon have won that war you guys would've took it as "Legitz Pwnd Bottars" or no?

Anyways Avalon good work on Waring the Epic guys i dont know if you gave your best or what but better luck next time.

[klemmyez]

If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be invites to guild -> they are dumb
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be outside buffers -> they are even dumber
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be lags due to massiv amount of players -> the dumbness has new names..

Come on be serious. What do you expect? This was more then a Ava vs Epic war. It was a legit vs botters war. If they ever thought it would be something different then just lol.

no really, because fly have take some botter for help them.

[BloodyBlade]

Haha pwned guys, pwned.
Finally they got beaten, now you can't come up screaming "OMG WERE THE BEST OF VENUS"..

lolwut?

Avalon still comes on top after that war. All capped botters in the server against one guild (not to mention the gross cheating they made), and in the end, they only got 1k point difference. It's funny and pathetic at the same time.

That, is exactly what I mean.
You guys think you rule the whole sro world..

[Toasty]

If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be invites to guild -> they are dumb
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be outside buffers -> they are even dumber
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be lags due to massiv amount of players -> the dumbness has new names..

Come on be serious. What do you expect? This was more then a Ava vs Epic war. It was a legit vs botters war. If they ever thought it would be something different then just lol.

Wow ur dumber than ur last ''the tumbness has new names...''
It wasnt a legit Vs Botter. It was Avalon Vs Epic. Ok it was but that wasnt the deal that Fly and Epic made at the first place.

Then your dumbness come to air if you didnt imagine they would "cheat" like you guys said, i just see it as they were smart enought to make up an strategy, You Venus people think you're at some sort of E-War, well my friend In war everything is fair.

And i can bet any amount of $ that if Avalon have won that war you guys would've took it as "Legitz Pwnd Bottars" or no?

Anyways Avalon good work on Waring the Epic guys i dont know if you gave your best or what but better luck next time.

Ah so thats what justifys them botting.

[fckl]

If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be invites to guild -> they are dumb
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be outside buffers -> they are even dumber
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be lags due to massiv amount of players -> the dumbness has new names..

Come on be serious. What do you expect? This was more then a Ava vs Epic war. It was a legit vs botters war. If they ever thought it would be something different then just lol.

+1

additionally avalon had their buffers there from beginning (and they were buffing from the beginning like epic's buffers did).

stop whining! avalon the big sign of playing-legit lost on the server they want to establish their legit-community.

read the global (!) statement of Fly: "if avalon loses, i will leave this server" <<if he proves to be a fair loser he will definetly fullfill his promise. if he doesn't the botters will call him a true liar (which would damage all legit's reputation).

[frankaslt1]

If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be invites to guild -> they are dumb
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be outside buffers -> they are even dumber
If fly and/or nb really thought there wont be lags due to massiv amount of players -> the dumbness has new names..

Come on be serious. What do you expect? This was more then a Ava vs Epic war. It was a legit vs botters war. If they ever thought it would be something different then just lol.

+1

[Crumpets]

+1

additionally avalon had their buffers there from beginning (and they were buffing from the beginning like epic's buffers did).

stop whining! avalon the big sign of playing-legit lost on the server they want to establish their legit-community.

read the global (!) statement of Fly: "if avalon loses, i will leave this server" <<if he proves to be a fair loser he will definetly fullfill his promise. if he doesn't the botters will call him a true liar (which would damage all legit's reputation).

Actually, AVa's 'buffers' held off for abit. I wasl istening in on the union chat and it was made clear we were to back off and get out of the way. But then the legion of Epic's buffers came and it went awol from there.

[mmaggot]

I laugh so hard at this thread isn't being a bot cheating in the first place. The venus legits are running around making excuses why they lost. they CHEATED!!!!! DUH!!!!

[GoogleVsYahoo]

who cares its a game deal with it!

[Velocity]

I think its time that Avalon union and BHA, Merge

[tianxiahui]

Even if avalon lost, this just proved how botters are noobish and how avalon is so strong compared to them.

Botters needed to invite ALL SERVER (not only their union) to win vs ONE GUILD

See u at rematch saturday

i thought the match on next saturday is between Oddessy vs PepsiLegend, as what i see on the global when i was in venus server. lose is lose Avalon..Face the Fact

[Kalypso]

http://www.wegame.com/watch/Epic_Vs_Avalon/

Someone can make direct link?

[Nocturjo]

I was there screaming out random stuff, and ROFL at firetruck's chanting.

So was I, was actually a lot of fun.

[NO_SILK_4_ME]

Ok...if you guys don't see how this match up is unfair, I suggest you take a look at the players in Avalon and Epic. Check rev6 and you'll see Avalon only has 12 capped lvl 90 players in it with many not even at 6X. They've let most of their members begin leading other guilds to form more legit unions.

Now look at Epic. Atleast 20 capped lvl 90 players to begin with and the ones who weren't capped were kicked so they could add from other botting guilds, even OUTSIDE of their own union.


With all the outside buffers and whatever else they pulled off, I'd say they made a bigger effort to win this than they EVER made in ANY fortress war. Avalon didn't give enough of a damn to do that. They know they can't work fortress, so this is their little compensation, which in itself can't even be considered a victory.

TURK NABB.

[skillznl]

Haha pwned guys, pwned.
Finally they got beaten, now you can't come up screaming "OMG WERE THE BEST OF VENUS"..

lolwut?

Avalon still comes on top after that war. All capped botters in the server against one guild (not to mention the gross cheating they made), and in the end, they only got 1k point difference. It's funny and pathetic at the same time.

That, is exactly what I mean.
You guys think you rule the whole sro world..

Atleast they are trying to do something for the legit Community. Only what i have you seen doing here is making the thing worse.... people like you should gtfo of this thread

I was there screaming out random stuff, and ROFL at firetruck's chanting.

So was I, was actually a lot of fun.

OMG you are the one who humped my leg!!!!! xD

[BloodyBlade]

Oh should I.

[monkey.]

I made this thread and I let him stay well more flaming more fun

[skillznl]

I dont care if you made this thread

Oh should I.

Yes you should

[Tasdik]

Alright, Ya'll keep saying that Epic cheated during the guild war by having out side buffers and recruiting capped botters to help them. But Avalon ALSO had buffers helping and what not. So they both cheated. Epic maybe more so but still they both cheated. And Avalon lost. Yet they refuse to disband as agreed upon. We're there actually rules stating that Epic couldn't recruit people to help in the war? Probably not. And since they both had outside buffers they both cheated equally.

Now people are like "well the botters cheated so why shouldn't we?" Does this mean that Avalon is going to start botting simply because the botters are doing it? The thing that separates Legits from Botters is the fact that we legits play fairly and never lower ourselves to botting or cheating in anyway. Yet here the Legits were. Cheating. And still they lost. Now they refuse to hold up to their end of the bargain by disbanding. Yes I know Venus needs Avalon, I'm not stupid. But, Avalon needs to set the example for Legits everywhere and disband. They can go make a new guild with the exact same people idc. But they need to do what they said they'd do.

[Simplifique]

Avalon lost, that's a shame. Must be some advance updated programming I guess, cause there is definitely no way botters could figure out a way to beat actual legit-learned pvp teamplay. I mean it had to be an act of god that led them to victory (or even turn up in numbers, actually logged on O_O ). (outside buffers and guild stacking don't count as cheating. It's more like common practice).

[PR0METHEUS]

its funney how epic had to recruit all ppl from other guilds and had outside buffers
we started 1 hour early and not all our ppl was ther and you had to cheat

Lol... I just love these guys, just like you, who cry after you last in a war...
"We didnt have most of our players online" "They`ve recruted other players from other guilds"...
It makes me sick... Quit crying like a 7 y.o and accept the fact you lost!

How is that "crying like a 7 year old"? Epic and Avalon declared war with each other at a pre-set time. Epic started an hour early when most of Avalon wasn't online. If everything started on time, with the agreed terms, Avalon wouldn't be able to complain.

Epic might as well have battled against my wife and I alone, and then claimed victory against Avalon.

I still don't see how it's fair to recruit from other guilds for a war, especially outside your union. At that point, it's not an Avalon vs. Epic war at all. Epic didn't win if Epic had so much help from so many other guilds.

[Tasdik]

P.S Now I'm wondering if the guild war had been fair and Avalon had lost would Avalon actually admit defeat and disband? Probably not.

[Simplifique]

How is that "crying like a 7 year old"? Epic and Avalon declared war with each other at a pre-set time. Epic started an hour early when most of Avalon wasn't online. If everything started on time, with the agreed terms, Avalon wouldn't be able to complain.

But they accepted the war, and went on with it didn't they? Or did I miss something. A war with such dire consequences should not have been fought in haste.

I still don't see how it's fair to recruit from other guilds for a war, especially outside your union. At that point, it's not an Avalon vs. Epic war at all. Epic didn't win if Epic had so much help from so many other guilds.

They fought under the same banner regardless. They had to share a common objective, isn't that enough reason to unify even for one battle?

[Panu]

I still don't see how it's fair to recruit from other guilds for a war, especially outside your union. At that point, it's not an Avalon vs. Epic war at all. Epic didn't win if Epic had so much help from so many other guilds.

They fought under the same banner regardless. They had to share a common objective, isn't that enough reason to unify even for one battle?

One battle? its supposed to be a Guild war, GUIILLLDDD WAAARRR!!!!! not Server vs Avalon war.

[Epinephrine]

How is that "crying like a 7 year old"? Epic and Avalon declared war with each other at a pre-set time. Epic started an hour early when most of Avalon wasn't online. If everything started on time, with the agreed terms, Avalon wouldn't be able to complain.

Epic might as well have battled against my wife and I alone, and then claimed victory against Avalon.

I still don't see how it's fair to recruit from other guilds for a war, especially outside your union. At that point, it's not an Avalon vs. Epic war at all. Epic didn't win if Epic had so much help from so many other guilds.

1. Epic DIDNT start a hour earlier, 5 SST was the starting time of war. SST is always the same, doesnt care if USA, Europe or Asia!
2. As i now know, NOT Epic did the war request! It was Avalon that made the request. See the video.
3. Avalon is still refusing to disband until they don't own the fortress anymore. It's still big blabla and just excuses. I already said, make a lvl1 noob and disband the union and kick the members. Finest solution. And remake the union with another guild as unionleader couldn't be that hard, or aren't there any lvl5 guilds? lol.


@ Panu
What do you expect on such a war? lol, be realistic

[Simplifique]

I still don't see how it's fair to recruit from other guilds for a war, especially outside your union. At that point, it's not an Avalon vs. Epic war at all. Epic didn't win if Epic had so much help from so many other guilds.

They fought under the same banner regardless. They had to share a common objective, isn't that enough reason to unify even for one battle?

One battle? its supposed to be a Guild war, GUIILLLDDD WAAARRR!!!!! not Server vs Avalon war.

Legit vs a group of players that has a history of cheating. If the one leading the guild war of Avalon (which I would assume is fly) failed to see that guild stacking or the use of outside buffers were not likely to take place, than he just made a very serious error in judgement.

Accusations of dishonor and harsh exchanges almost always happen in guild wars against botters. Cheating is common, fly knows this. This isn't the first guild war against a botter guild he has been against. Why even bother setting the terms before hand when other members of that guild Epic, will add his/her friends to help them out, especially when the stakes are very high.

Regardless of what happens to Avalon guild, or whether players will leave or whatnot, in the end it's just a game with some players just got brought back down to Earth. It was fun while it lasted, and sro, especially isro isn't going to always be online forever.

[RogueKiller]

Only problem they will most likely have if they lose the second war is that people will leave the server. Most likely no one important but the low levels, server hoppers and quitters will jump ship when needed. Shit like that always happens. But considering most of those people are between 1 and 30 it wont affect anything.
But too many lame after war excuses. Get over it. Do it back instead of bitching.