lionshout in PVP

[ThisIsAvalon]

Um dude my Bards would be in town. Good luck killing them. Anyway I would just absolute your Wizards then kill your Rogues because they actually are the weakest on your team. I don't even have to attack the Wizards all I have to do is send my Glaivers to kill your Rogues while the Wizards are taken out by absolute damage and the Warriors sit there trying to tank or something.

lol@warriors being weakest.(I can do it too!) I guess you've forgotten that Warriors have Vital Increase, Skins and are Full Str. The smart thing to do is keep your Cleric in town instead of having them out as cannon fodder. I'd rather play to win with my Clerics and Bards in town then play the way you play for whatever reason that is.

And uhh Raged! you are basically saying that PvP is easy to learn so you have to PvE or you won't know how to play. Which means if they already know the basic shit they should just bot their characters so they can get to the easy part of the game...

This guy reminds me of the total dumbshit bots that keep getting owned by my 8 man euro party. You bard will be in town? ROFL, how are you going to hide in a SAFEZONE in CASTLE SEIGE? You can always hide in your little safe zone, if you do, i'll just walk OUT of range. Then you gonna be sitting there sucking your thumb going DURRRRRRRRR how we killz himz!!?!?!?!??

Now, lets do some comparing. For this, we will use the Niya General as a medium.

Wizard does 35,000 damage to a Niya General with a +7 staff. Chinese spear does 10,000 damage.
1H Tank has 30,000 HP, Glavier has 20,000.
Chinese autopot heals 1/5 as fast as a euro cleric.


Now, all I would have to do to kill YOUR party, is to nuke your weak ass euro cleric with NO WARRIOR buffs for over 3x his life, then take out the rest of your party that does 1/3 of the damage as my wizards. Then you'll be crying on the floor going "Grrrr must bot more SP's". GG.


Oh yeah, and ksro people MURDER ANY bots that try to bot on their server, and then go grind it off. Koean community sees someone else in murder, and unlike the bot community of iSRO, lets them work it off, instead of killing them. kSRO isnt full of little bot **** like iSRO.


Back ontopic, the reason why kSRO players use lionshout is because of the way they pvp. They say "excuse me sir, do you wish to engage in a duel with me?". Their mindset is completely different then iSRO, they DONT CARE if they win or lose, its fun either way. Us, as Americans, as soon as we lose we go "Lag", or "You got lucky" or "SUN n00B!", and then then these people go bot more trying to become better.


That picture of a kSRO party? Total useless. All ints, no tanks at all. They will get CRUSHED by any other party.

[Barotix]

Ok dude you can do trade runs all you want I rly don't care about those. I wouldn't be PvPing to steal your trades I'm doing it for the fun and competition. Plus you are forgetting that Bards reduce damage plus there is the Cleric that reduces damage. My Bards would probably be Full Str anyway and your Wizards would be dead by the time you truly engaged my team and my Glaivers would probably be finishing off your Cleric by then, Unless he Blessed then they just kill your Rogues. Your damage is to easily killed and thus your party is useless, unless they don't use their damage buffs which makes them pointless then. There is really nothing you can do to my party other than kill my Cleric which probably won't happen anyway.

Read my edits, you will find them informative.

[ThisIsAvalon]

Ok dude you can do trade runs all you want I rly don't care about those. I wouldn't be PvPing to steal your trades I'm doing it for the fun and competition. Plus you are forgetting that Bards reduce damage plus there is the Cleric that reduces damage. My Bards would probably be Full Str anyway and your Wizards would be dead by the time you truly engaged my team and my Glaivers would probably be finishing off your Cleric by then, Unless he Blessed then they just kill your Rogues. Your damage is to easily killed and thus your party is useless, unless they don't use their damage buffs which makes them pointless then. There is really nothing you can do to my party other than kill my Cleric which probably won't happen anyway.

Tell me then, HOW will you manage to kill wizards off that have 57% absorb from the tank, and 35% absorb from the bard? Oh wait, you wont....your cleric would maybe take ONE out, and get 1 shot by the other 2.

[RogueKiller]

A Lion shout should be same as Mars from heuksal

To finish people

Oh ya, annoying when people use it at the right time

[NuclearSilo]

A Lion shout should be same as Mars from heuksal

To finish people

Oh ya, annoying when people use it at the right time

Yep, use it to 1 hit a noob is quite fun

[BloodOwnzzz]

Um dude my Bards would be in town. Good luck killing them. Anyway I would just absolute your Wizards then kill your Rogues because they actually are the weakest on your team. I don't even have to attack the Wizards all I have to do is send my Glaivers to kill your Rogues while the Wizards are taken out by absolute damage and the Warriors sit there trying to tank or something.

lol@warriors being weakest.(I can do it too!) I guess you've forgotten that Warriors have Vital Increase, Skins and are Full Str. The smart thing to do is keep your Cleric in town instead of having them out as cannon fodder. I'd rather play to win with my Clerics and Bards in town then play the way you play for whatever reason that is.

And uhh Raged! you are basically saying that PvP is easy to learn so you have to PvE or you won't know how to play. Which means if they already know the basic shit they should just bot their characters so they can get to the easy part of the game...

This guy reminds me of the total dumbshit bots that keep getting owned by my 8 man euro party. You bard will be in town? ROFL, how are you going to hide in a SAFEZONE in CASTLE SEIGE? You can always hide in your little safe zone, if you do, i'll just walk OUT of range. Then you gonna be sitting there sucking your thumb going DURRRRRRRRR how we killz himz!!?!?!?!??

Now, lets do some comparing. For this, we will use the Niya General as a medium.

Wizard does 35,000 damage to a Niya General with a +7 staff. Chinese spear does 10,000 damage.
1H Tank has 30,000 HP, Glavier has 20,000.
Chinese autopot heals 1/5 as fast as a euro cleric.


Now, all I would have to do to kill YOUR party, is to nuke your weak ass euro cleric with NO WARRIOR buffs for over 3x his life, then take out the rest of your party that does 1/3 of the damage as my wizards. Then you'll be crying on the floor going "Grrrr must bot more SP's". GG.


Oh yeah, and ksro people MURDER ANY bots that try to bot on their server, and then go grind it off. Koean community sees someone else in murder, and unlike the bot community of iSRO, lets them work it off, instead of killing them. kSRO isnt full of little bot **** like iSRO.


Back ontopic, the reason why kSRO players use lionshout is because of the way they pvp. They say "excuse me sir, do you wish to engage in a duel with me?". Their mindset is completely different then iSRO, they DONT CARE if they win or lose, its fun either way. Us, as Americans, as soon as we lose we go "Lag", or "You got lucky" or "SUN n00B!", and then then these people go bot more trying to become better.


That picture of a kSRO party? Total useless. All ints, no tanks at all. They will get CRUSHED by any other party.

Hold on a sec..(Counts down the time it takes to kill your Wizards with Absolute damage)

Ok what were you saying again? I have Bard Buffs and Bless Spell... Good luck killing my Cleric.(Don't forget Cleric Passives and Blessings) First of all, you aren't going to hit 35k with your Wizards on ANY real character. And wtf do you expect to accomplish with a Character who deals about 0 damage to anyone and only protects the Wizards I 1 shot with Absolute Damage.

You aren't thinking straight you are just being Farking retarded. You think you know everything about Euros but you can't even grasp all the concepts of it. Absolute damage is stupidly overpowered and 1 hits any Wizard with LT on. The Bard buffs are a passive 38% reduce of damage plus they boost both the Glaivers Phy and Mag damage. And unlike your Warriors who are protecting my Clerics 1 hits, I have my offensive defense of 5 Full Str's running around Stunning and KBing all your shit plus dealing damage to people. Even if your Wizards live and don't get KBed while casting do you seriously think you will kill a Cleric with Bard Buffs, Blessings, and the Cleric passives.

I HATE, HATE how all you Venus people think you know everything about Euros because you happened to take over a server with the BASICS of them. If you want to Farking see a good guild playing Euro good, go see PurePainCrew instead and not pussy Avalon who are just everything normal about Euros.

You guys aren't even the first to do what you did you just get all your fame from your stupid Uruchi kill and public relations. You did what any competant, other than Vengeance, group of Euros can accomplish. Your experience with the game when put into Venus did the simple for you guys and the Farking retards of the community thought you were amazing for it. You went along with it by becoming arrogant and trying to be the leading information for Euros for the legit community. You are just another Farking NORMAL group of experienced players.

And if you think kSRO is so honorable then you don't know a Farking thing about it. Shit if you even think there are no bots on kSRO then your are Farking retarded... CHECK OUT ALL THESE NON BOTS LOLOLOL!!!



LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THAT MURDER THING HUH LOLOLOLOL!!!

[BloodOwnzzz]

Sorry about double post but it's necessary.

And if it really comes down to you saying my Cleric will still die then what happens when I put a Warrior in my party? I guess then you can't do anything to stop my party then...

And Barotix you just proved what I said. All you Farking Venus retards think you are so smart but can't even grasp the harder concepts of the Race you are so pro at. Absolute Cleric damage will kill your Wizards in 1 Shot...

[Barotix]

Um dude my Bards would be in town. Good luck killing them. Anyway I would just absolute your Wizards then kill your Rogues because they actually are the weakest on your team. I don't even have to attack the Wizards all I have to do is send my Glaivers to kill your Rogues while the Wizards are taken out by absolute damage and the Warriors sit there trying to tank or something.

lol@warriors being weakest.(I can do it too!) I guess you've forgotten that Warriors have Vital Increase, Skins and are Full Str. The smart thing to do is keep your Cleric in town instead of having them out as cannon fodder. I'd rather play to win with my Clerics and Bards in town then play the way you play for whatever reason that is.

And uhh Raged! you are basically saying that PvP is easy to learn so you have to PvE or you won't know how to play. Which means if they already know the basic shit they should just bot their characters so they can get to the easy part of the game...

This guy reminds me of the total dumbshit bots that keep getting owned by my 8 man euro party. You bard will be in town? ROFL, how are you going to hide in a SAFEZONE in CASTLE SEIGE? You can always hide in your little safe zone, if you do, i'll just walk OUT of range. Then you gonna be sitting there sucking your thumb going DURRRRRRRRR how we killz himz!!?!?!?!??

Now, lets do some comparing. For this, we will use the Niya General as a medium.

Wizard does 35,000 damage to a Niya General with a +7 staff. Chinese spear does 10,000 damage.
1H Tank has 30,000 HP, Glavier has 20,000.
Chinese autopot heals 1/5 as fast as a euro cleric.


Now, all I would have to do to kill YOUR party, is to nuke your weak ass euro cleric with NO WARRIOR buffs for over 3x his life, then take out the rest of your party that does 1/3 of the damage as my wizards. Then you'll be crying on the floor going "Grrrr must bot more SP's". GG.


Oh yeah, and ksro people MURDER ANY bots that try to bot on their server, and then go grind it off. Koean community sees someone else in murder, and unlike the bot community of iSRO, lets them work it off, instead of killing them. kSRO isnt full of little bot **** like iSRO.


Back ontopic, the reason why kSRO players use lionshout is because of the way they pvp. They say "excuse me sir, do you wish to engage in a duel with me?". Their mindset is completely different then iSRO, they DONT CARE if they win or lose, its fun either way. Us, as Americans, as soon as we lose we go "Lag", or "You got lucky" or "SUN n00B!", and then then these people go bot more trying to become better.


That picture of a kSRO party? Total useless. All ints, no tanks at all. They will get CRUSHED by any other party.

Hold on a sec..(Counts down the time it takes to kill your Wizards with Absolute damage)

Ok what were you saying again? I have Bard Buffs and Bless Spell... Good luck killing my Cleric.(Don't forget Cleric Passives and Blessings) First of all, you aren't going to hit 35k with your Wizards on ANY real character. And wtf do you expect to accomplish with a Character who deals about 0 damage to anyone and only protects the Wizards I 1 shot with Absolute Damage.

You aren't thinking straight you are just being Farking retarded. You think you know everything about Euros but you can't even grasp all the concepts of it. Absolute damage is stupidly overpowered and 1 hits any Wizard with LT on. The Bard buffs are a passive 38% reduce of damage plus they boost both the Glaivers Phy and Mag damage. And unlike your Warriors who are protecting my Clerics 1 hits, I have my offensive defense of 5 Full Str's running around Stunning and KBing all your shit plus dealing damage to people. Even if your Wizards live and don't get KBed while casting do you seriously think you will kill a Cleric with Bard Buffs, Blessings, and the Cleric passives.

I HATE, HATE how all you Venus people think you know everything about Euros because you happened to take over a server with the BASICS of them. If you want to Farking see a good guild playing Euro good, go see PurePainCrew instead and not pussy Avalon who are just everything normal about Euros.

You guys aren't even the first to do what you did you just get all your fame from your stupid Uruchi kill and public relations. You did what any competant, other than Vengeance, group of Euros can accomplish. Your experience with the game when put into Venus did the simple for you guys and the Farking retards of the community thought you were amazing for it. You went along with it by becoming arrogant and trying to be the leading information for Euros for the legit community. You are just another Farking NORMAL group of experienced players.

And if you think kSRO is so honorable then you don't know a Farking thing about it. Shit if you even think there are no bots on kSRO then your are Farking retarded... CHECK OUT ALL THESE NON BOTS LOLOLOL!!!



LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THAT MURDER THING HUH LOLOLOLOL!!!

Avalon was reffering to player bots not gold bots, and the absolute dmg will be absorbed, everything you have said has already been refuted in my post you just lack the reading comprehension to see it

why so serious, man? I was going to go to Hera to basically apply all these stratgies there, but i didn't want to deal with the perpetual 2000/2001+ crowdedness and the massive number of player bots that would decide to war Vengeance. (Vengeance will succeed)
*pokes fun at blood*

Regarding purepaincrew: Vapor and you guys are cool, but when Athens is considered Legit like Odin, Venus, and soon Hera then you can be "arrogant".

EDIT: You would need at least 2 warriors or else that one warrior will be strained and end up dieing. (unless glaivers acquire warrior buffs one day). And i only recently moved back to Venus.

EDIT:EDIT:regarding Absolute dmg: i would like to buy Quota for 100kk pl0x

[NuclearSilo]

LMAO

[ThisIsAvalon]

A cleric without warrior buffs = cannon fodder. Its been proven over and over again. Theres no way thru it, around it, or to avoid it. Get that thru ur thick skull. Without warriors, you cleric is DEAD.

You guys aren't even the first to do what you did you just get all your fame from your stupid Uruchi kill and public relations. You did what any competant, other than Vengeance, group of Euros can accomplish. Your experience with the game when put into Venus did the simple for you guys and the Farking retards of the community thought you were amazing for it. You went along with it by becoming arrogant and trying to be the leading information for Euros for the legit community. You are just another Farking NORMAL group of experienced players.

Rofl, you make SpiritPower seem smart.

[BloodOwnzzz]

Ok dude no buffs disable Absolute Damage, nice try.

Vengeance will not succeed. I was in it. It is a HUGE failure and you'll see it when they lose the fortress.

And it won't take 2 Warriors there is to much happening that is not directly related to actual defense that will be happening, lots of KB and Stun. And before you say I'll disable your bard buffs by attacking them then think that my Bards will be far away.

I am taking this seriously because I have a personal vendetta against Venus and all the rest of the retards who don't know what they are talking about. I am Farking tired of this shit...

[ThisIsAvalon]

Ok dude no buffs disable Absolute Damage, nice try.

Vengeance will not succeed. I was in it. It is a HUGE failure and you'll see it when they lose the fortress.

And it won't take 2 Warriors there is to much happening that is not directly related to actual defense that will be happening, lots of KB and Stun. And before you say I'll disable your bard buffs by attacking them then think that my Bards will be far away.

I am taking this seriously because I have a personal vendetta against Venus and all the rest of the retards who don't know what they are talking about. I am Farking tired of this shit...

Lol, a personal vendetta. Awww, did you kill you little bot fwiends and hurt their feewings? Poor you.... grow some balls, if this game is too complicated for you, play TicTacToe, or MapleStory. I've watched PurePainCrew pvp with euros. They are good, but can still improve a whole lot.

[BloodOwnzzz]

Ok dude no buffs disable Absolute Damage, nice try.

Vengeance will not succeed. I was in it. It is a HUGE failure and you'll see it when they lose the fortress.

And it won't take 2 Warriors there is to much happening that is not directly related to actual defense that will be happening, lots of KB and Stun. And before you say I'll disable your bard buffs by attacking them then think that my Bards will be far away.

I am taking this seriously because I have a personal vendetta against Venus and all the rest of the retards who don't know what they are talking about. I am Farking tired of this shit...

Lol, a personal vendetta. Awww, did you kill you little bot fwiends and hurt their feewings? Poor you.... grow some balls, if this game is too complicated for you, play TicTacToe, or MapleStory. I've watched PurePainCrew pvp with euros. They are good, but can still improve a whole lot.

I don't even have any friends on Venus lol. Like I said I am not a bot and I do not support them. Why are you being so dense?

When was the last time you actually saw PPC PvP? In that youtube video? Lol, that was a joke Guild War vs a noob guild. And before you start dissing PPC I will say I'm not in it I just know the people in it. If you think they can improve then tell me what they can do then.

[ThisIsAvalon]

I don't even have any friends on Venus lol. Like I said I am not a bot and I do not support them. Why are you being so dense?

When was the last time you actually saw PPC PvP? In that youtube video? Lol, that was a joke Guild War vs a noob guild. And before you start dissing PPC I will say I'm not in it I just know the people in it. If you think they can improve then tell me what they can do then.

If you dont have friends on Venus, and never played on it, how the fck do you know how we pvp? Oh wait you dont. I've logged onto watch PPC pvp because Vapore is a pure str/warlock, just like my build. You have no idea what your talking about, just grasping as straws.

[MrSonic]

*grabs popcorn*

[Barotix]

Ok dude no buffs disable Absolute Damage, nice try.

Vengeance will not succeed. I was in it. It is a HUGE failure and you'll see it when they lose the fortress.

And it won't take 2 Warriors there is to much happening that is not directly related to actual defense that will be happening, lots of KB and Stun. And before you say I'll disable your bard buffs by attacking them then think that my Bards will be far away.

I am taking this seriously because I have a personal vendetta against Venus and all the rest of the retards who don't know what they are talking about. I am Farking tired of this shit...

Well I'm having this neato discussion with because server traffic beat me up again and i have the sniffles
@the bold, Fence will, send most of the dmg to the warrior, meaning: a live Wizard.

• How far are we talking? If they're to far to use their buffs you might as well get rid of them, if they're not then Sprint assault + KB (assuming they get dulled) then daring berserker and their dead. Or the wiz teles and nukes :/
• The warriors have a higher KB chance (80% X2[two KB moves]) and they also have stun as well, with better buffs. The glaives are just there to leech and die.
• What shit? I haven't been arrogant, i don't have a right to. I'm just a piece of the whole European Machine (the weakest piece).
• And you have a vendetta, why? What sis avalon do to piss you off?

[echo]

Lol this became so farked up, this was topic about lion shouts is pvp

[BloodOwnzzz]

I don't even have any friends on Venus lol. Like I said I am not a bot and I do not support them. Why are you being so dense?

When was the last time you actually saw PPC PvP? In that youtube video? Lol, that was a joke Guild War vs a noob guild. And before you start dissing PPC I will say I'm not in it I just know the people in it. If you think they can improve then tell me what they can do then.

If you dont have friends on Venus, and never played on it, how the fck do you know how we pvp? Oh wait you dont. I've logged onto watch PPC pvp because Vapore is a pure str/warlock, just like my build. You have no idea what your talking about, just grasping as straws.

If you say shitty things on forums then you obviously won't be better in game. I get my information from the way you played that war vs that guild or w/e that Asya took a video of. There are plenty of things I can say you could have done better there first but I think I'll wait for what you think PPC can do better.

[ThisIsAvalon]

Lol this became so farked up, this was topic about lion shouts is pvp

Yeah, im done with this topic. This guy can go play his chinese char on his sun botted server and have fun. Its like talking to a brick wall.

Side note: Absolute dmg deals 6k only. Wizard can just take off LC, and nuke the cleric. Im pretty sure 1 nuke > 2 absolute in speed.

[BloodOwnzzz]

Ok dude no buffs disable Absolute Damage, nice try.

Vengeance will not succeed. I was in it. It is a HUGE failure and you'll see it when they lose the fortress.

And it won't take 2 Warriors there is to much happening that is not directly related to actual defense that will be happening, lots of KB and Stun. And before you say I'll disable your bard buffs by attacking them then think that my Bards will be far away.

I am taking this seriously because I have a personal vendetta against Venus and all the rest of the retards who don't know what they are talking about. I am Farking tired of this shit...

Well I'm having this neato discussion with because server traffic beat me up again and i have the sniffles
@the bold, Fence will, send most of the dmg to the warrior, meaning: a live Wizard.

• How far are we talking? If they're to far to use their buffs you might as well get rid of them, if they're not then Sprint assault + KB (assuming they get dulled) then daring berserker and their dead. Or the wiz teles and nukes :/
• The warriors have a higher KB chance (80% X2[two KB moves]) and they also have stun as well, with better buffs. The glaives are just there to leech and die.
• What shit? I haven't been arrogant, i don't have a right to. I'm just a piece of the whole European Machine (the weakest piece).
• And you have a vendetta, why? What sis avalon do to piss you off?

Absolute damage is not Magical or Physical damage. It ignores all defense and thus kills low health people in 1 hit... And if they do take off LT then they are cannot kill my Cleric ever. Yeh I saw that little edit after you said you were done with thte thread.

And the Bards will be far enough where you can't reach them without coming out far enough for my Cleric to kill your Wizard.

[BloodOwnzzz]

Lol this became so farked up, this was topic about lion shouts is pvp

Yeah, im done with this topic. This guy can go play his chinese char on his sun botted server and have fun. Its like talking to a brick wall.

I'm still waiting for what you think PPC can do better from what you saw of them.

[Barotix]

Ok dude no buffs disable Absolute Damage, nice try.

Vengeance will not succeed. I was in it. It is a HUGE failure and you'll see it when they lose the fortress.

And it won't take 2 Warriors there is to much happening that is not directly related to actual defense that will be happening, lots of KB and Stun. And before you say I'll disable your bard buffs by attacking them then think that my Bards will be far away.

I am taking this seriously because I have a personal vendetta against Venus and all the rest of the retards who don't know what they are talking about. I am Farking tired of this shit...

Well I'm having this neato discussion with because server traffic beat me up again and i have the sniffles
@the bold, Fence will, send most of the dmg to the warrior, meaning: a live Wizard.

• How far are we talking? If they're to far to use their buffs you might as well get rid of them, if they're not then Sprint assault + KB (assuming they get dulled) then daring berserker and their dead. Or the wiz teles and nukes :/
• The warriors have a higher KB chance (80% X2[two KB moves]) and they also have stun as well, with better buffs. The glaives are just there to leech and die.
• What shit? I haven't been arrogant, i don't have a right to. I'm just a piece of the whole European Machine (the weakest piece).
• And you have a vendetta, why? What sis avalon do to piss you off?

Absolute damage is not Magical or Physical damage. It ignores all defense and thus kills low health people in 1 hit... And if they do take off LT then they are cannot kill my Cleric ever. Yeh I saw that little edit after you said you were done with thte thread.

And the Bards will be far enough where you can't reach them without coming out far enough for my Cleric to kill your Wizard.

Fence doesn't increase magical or physical defense it sends a proportion of damage to the warrior. so you will split up your party just so you can use your cleric to do one absolute dmg skill, i have more than one wizard and they won't be close enough for you to hit all of them with your absolute dmg skill, but to appease you lets say you manage to kill one wizard (no matter how unlikely) your cleric still has about 8k(10k?)* hp at the cap its "cannon fodder".

(dmg is still dmg, absolute or not, it ignores defences not absorption.)

in Party VS Party only a European Party can beat a European Party.

EDIT: i am done as well.

[BloodOwnzzz]

Absolute Damage does not have a set damage type and does not transfer because of the Fences.

[Crumpets]

Shouts in pvp = Win ( I did it for well over 3 years )

Goldbots in Korea .. when they get to a certain lvl they get retired .. and the company restarts. Unlike here in iSRO where you have fdjghjfkdgh x34768 on the ice.

[n1ght5h4de]

Lols at the ULTIMATE party with 5 Glaivers Edit: My sincere apologies , it was Unbeatable

[BloodOwnzzz]

I didn't say it was the ultimate party. I prefer Full Euro because of the stuff it can do but not the party they suggested, but I still see this as a better leveling party because it CAN bot(Not saying it did and I'm not a bot, already said but some won't read all posts). It is also probably the best mix party you can make maybe Bowers would be better though I kinda like the extra health from Glaives for parties.

[SaoKill]

For PvP wouldn't you rather want to have the Heuskal Passive than the Vital Increase [More HP ; 35% Attack Reduce]

[BloodOwnzzz]

Only reason for Vital Increase is tanking which you won't be doing much of. I would never have my Warriors PvP with Vital Increase on because they can deal some pretty good damage, even as 1H.

[Barotix]

Only reason for Vital Increase is tanking which you won't be doing much of. I would never have my Warriors PvP with Vital Increase on because they can deal some pretty good damage, even as 1H.

Have fun getting one hit by wizards with Life Control on. Just get the enemy in dull status (asuming you're 1h) and you should be able to kill them, vital is very useful and you tank more often that not. Especially in those sticky situations where its a wiz a bard and a (2h)warrior (assuming the warrior doesn't use quotas or fences: most don't) vs you. You vital up, kill the bard heal HP kill wiz then handle warrior.

EDIT: Vital is alot better than it seems. so much hp

barotix you can't use shield thrash/crush consecutively, and u cant spam sprint assault + shield crush to stop the enemy forever.

theres a cooldown lag in between, shield crush is a 2part hit and u can get hit after the first hit before the 2nd.

unless its changed, i stopped my warrior back in august last year and ive played it once since then but didnt have thrash on my skills bard, only crush.

The party that prevails basically is determined by how far away the respawn point is at and how much time u are given after each respawn, also how far away the opposing force is at the time of respawn.

The "/" (slashes) are used to designate an either or, personally i prefer trash because it is immediate, rather than crushes two hit, with the second hit being the KB one. I'm not the only one in the party with interruption skills.

[Da_Realest]

Lion Shouts do not interupt the next action. Fudge pointed out that it was due to the Shouts' damage taking others MP down to 0 because of Snow Shield.

If the animation for the skill starts and is suddenly halted, I say that is a interruption.

With no lag you can time a lion shout to hit a target at nearly the same time a nuke hits a target.

Why use lion shouts? You can quickly make decisions when a enemy appears instead of being stuck in a nuke animation. You can also prevent enemies from attacking who have on mana shield. Its also a great finisher.