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Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:13 pm
by Alterran
ok hmm all the worlds scientists say the water will rise right? well lets think ice is made up of water and air so hmm and the ice chuncks are mostly underwater so when they melt the air will leave leaving only the water right?

example

take a cup of ice and fill it with water let it sit for 3 hours and watch how the ice melts and the water level LOWERS so tell me what will happen to our oceans?

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:19 pm
by 0l3n
Alterran wrote:ok hmm all the worlds scientists say the water will rise right? well lets think ice is made up of water and air so hmm and the ice chuncks are mostly underwater so when they melt the air will leave leaving only the water right?

example

take a cup of ice and fill it with water let it sit for 3 hours and watch how the ice melts and the water level LOWERS so tell me what will happen to our oceans?


There's alot of ice that is not in or on water, alot of it is on land.
Just because you had an experiment in school doesnt mean your an expert.

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:24 pm
by woutR
Sign up for extra chemistry lessons, PLEASE!

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:27 pm
by Alterran
so the ammount of ice that isnt in the water or on land would have to be 30% of all the ice in the world for the water to even start rising and there isnt that much ice that isnt in water so how is the water gona rise if there isnt enough ice to make it rise?

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:28 pm
by Alterran
and to wouter im in college and i know what im talking about so yea...

and btw if you have nothing to do but flame me stay out of my posts

you guys do know this was a joke right?

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:37 pm
by woutR
community 'college' ftl

D you seriously think the water isn't going to rise? If so, how do you explain it has already and still is rising?

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:56 pm
by Midori
your logic is wrong, and im not flaming.

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:57 pm
by CrimsonNuker
You're making yourself look like a complete fool lol

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:58 pm
by takolin
1) Did you try your experiment with ice on salt water? Things work out different that way.

2) Do you realise that Antarctica is a huge pile of land covered with ice.

Your experiment failed.

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:59 pm
by Grimm-.-
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Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:59 pm
by cuchulainn
Alterran wrote:and to wouter im in college and i know what im talking about so yea...

and btw if you have nothing to do but flame me stay out of my posts


"Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"

You'd be wise to follow this advice in the future...

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:16 pm
by devin
omg. global warming was made up. dont buy into it.

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:21 pm
by dom
devin wrote:omg. global warming was made up. dont buy into it.


Fail. Nice try at being different.

Anyone who makes that claim is ignorant, and never taken seriously by anyone. The debate is not on whether or not the planet is warming, it is: it's quantitative, just fucking measure the annual temperatures. I'm sure that since they're going up, it literally means the planet is getting warmer. The debate is on whether or not the warming is caused by humans, antrophogenic global warming. That's why people say "it's the earth's natural warming/cooling cycle".

Even worse than you are idiots who claim global warming is made up, and that it's just the earth that's naturally warming up - GG fail @ argumentation.

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:44 pm
by Reise
takolin wrote:Do you realise that Antarctica is a huge pile of land covered with ice.


Ding ding ding!

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:52 pm
by Tasdik
woutR wrote:community 'college' ftl

For some people that's the best they can do.

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:54 pm
by dom
Tasdik wrote:
woutR wrote:community 'college' ftl

For some people that's the best they can do.


Then they shouldn't flaunt their divine intelligence and bastion and knowledge, they are last rate academics.

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:58 pm
by Tasdik
dom wrote:
Tasdik wrote:
woutR wrote:community 'college' ftl

For some people that's the best they can do.


Then they shouldn't flaunt their divine intelligence and bastion and knowledge, they are last rate academics.

True

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:07 pm
by cuchulainn
Tasdik wrote:
woutR wrote:community 'college' ftl

For some people that's the best they can do.


Someone who thinks they know something is much worse than someone who either doesn't know or admits they only know a little.

I applaud anyone who is trying to improve their education to better their lives or simply for the pursuit of knowledge. However, people also need to recognize that they do not and cannot know enough about everything to talk authoritatively about it. It's ok to take a stance, but you need to be willing to recognize when you're wrong and be able to analyze multiple viewpoints and be critical of your own.

(This all coming from someone who at one point thought I knew everything, boy I was a retard back then).

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:34 pm
by LaloHao
What goes up must come down
If it does evapore then the water cycle will act...(u must know it or else...)
it will eventually be a storm and all the water will come down again
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Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:44 pm
by crazy_foo
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Community college isn't necessarily ftl it's better than none at all :P (the picture wasn't aimed at u btw)

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:50 pm
by DaZzY
You fool!

Stop renting out the teletubies at your blockbuster and get Al Gore's documentary called 'An Inconvenient Truth' it will tell you all you need to know about the water rise and global warming.

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:57 pm
by dom
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Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:03 pm
by DaZzY
dom wrote:Image


A little OTT? i dont think it will rise that much =/

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:11 pm
by emperor3000
CrimsonNuker wrote:You're making yourself look like a complete fool lol



+1 lol


Your experiment with the ice in da water is dodo.

Durring that 3 hours, your water might of evaporated.

Have you ever frozen a bottle of water when its unopened, and take it out of the freezer.

Then you let it sit there, unopened, and after you see the ice have melted.

You open your bottle of water and it will to overflow out of the bottle.

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:02 am
by Nuklear
Wow, so much bashing and insults for a question. Lighten up people. 8)

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:48 am
by rek
Theres is a reason why they are scientists you know. Your cup of ice experiment fails.

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:04 am
by daemon225
this thread is fail

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 7:54 am
by Grandpa
daemon225 wrote:this thread is fail
Naw, not "fail".

This is 'old' information and I'm certain that we know more than we did in 1989, but who has ever said it better than one of my heroes, Issac Asimov??
This from about 20 years ago, way before everybody was talking 'bout it.
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It's a long speech and good ol' Issac goes off on a tangent (you can click him off at frame 4:00)
when he speaks about the boy who wrote, "Who gave the United State the right to tell Brazil what to do?".
It's almost all 1989 style rhetoric from there on out but click off is easy enuf.

Issac Asimov spoke of the "Greenhouse Effect" and another one of my 'heroes' balances the view, cautioning us to raise a skeptical eye to those with political motive when they speak about 'causes'. Read (if you are interested) from Phil Plait, The Bad Astronomer: Is Global Warming Solar Induced?

Alistair B. Fraser the "Bad Meteorologist" also balances the information with his comments about "The Greenhouse Effect"
First,

    Let’s get one thing straight.

  • The greenhouse effect and global warming
    ARE NOT the same thing.

  • There is a greenhouse effect, but, if there were not, we would all be dead!

  • It is becoming increasingly clear that we are also experencing global warming, but, that is a different matter.

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Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:36 pm
by iGod
It wont be as catastrophic as dom drew, the main problem will be the temperature not the water rising (which will be gradual). People wont sit around with their ankles in water and wait until they drown :S

We might cook like frogs though

Re: Global Warming And How The Water Will Not Rise

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:58 pm
by bakafish
dom wrote:http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/3228/waterleveltp9.jpg

Goodbye Netherlands!