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Massive Spiritual Orbs! Must SEE!! 56K warning...

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:39 pm
by Rakion
this pic was taken at Mountain View Colleges.
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i am very certain that i wasn't raining outside... and the camera works well!

and i think this is a spirit O.O
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:40 pm
by cin
ummm

idk

but i think they're


photoshopped -.-


either that, or there was some raindrops in front of the lens

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:46 pm
by Rakion
cin wrote:ummm

idk

but i think they're


photoshopped -.-


either that, or there was some raindrops in front of the lens

LOL no.. i wasn't Photoshop'ed i have, but hell idk how to use it... i only use photoshop just to re size images.
the cammera works well... i only posted 6 pics... if it was raindrops... then it should have rained and where there are rain there are umbrellas all around.

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:49 pm
by [SD]Twysta
Not a single person is looking at them.

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:57 pm
by Crumpets
Either Bad Camera / Lighting or processing.

Seen these MANY times before. Not spiritual 'orbs'.

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:05 pm
by BrokenSaint
lol? orbs? Anyways this happens a lot when there are dust particles around the light reflects off those particles. Nothing supernatural o.O

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:07 pm
by SpInKsTaR
I got a good as photo, Of a person standing in our couch, no joke, ill have to scan it cause didnt have a digital cam at the time...its kinda freaky :|

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:09 pm
by Rakion
Crumpets wrote:Either Bad Camera / Lighting or processing.

Seen these MANY times before. Not spiritual 'orbs'.

The camera works well... there are no signs of something wrong...
for example:
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still the same camera

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:24 pm
by piootr
look like spotlights

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:25 pm
by cin
about the other pics, it was light on those -.-

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:37 pm
by Waisha
Wasn't it Rakion who posted that pic of a lady in a window? Coincidence or a lier?

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:42 pm
by Rakion
should i really post another pic. -.- stupid sucky internet speed -.-"
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its imposible to be the camera, lights, rain drops,and dust!?, these are all taken at the dark... i dont see any thing wrong on these other pic.

sorry ppl i guess i'll post many tommorow to those who are not contented >_>
my mom's killing me XD

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:47 pm
by Amelie
you get that effect when there's lack of light in the area, camera finds a single source of light and it over expose it.

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:00 pm
by chickenfeather
I get these all the time. It's odd though because I will take one picture right after another in the same location and the orbs will appear in one and not the other.

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:39 pm
by iGod
Clean out the lens?

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:59 pm
by non ego man
BrokenSaint wrote:lol? orbs? Anyways this happens a lot when there are dust particles around the light reflects off those particles. Nothing supernatural o.O

This is the correct explanation. It's the camera's flash reflecting dust and/or drizzle in the air. It happens all the time. I'll give you $100 if you can find a photo in which you aren't using your flash.

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Due to the size limitations of the modern compact and ultra-compact cameras, especially digital cameras, the distance between the lens and the built-in flash has decreased, thereby decreasing the angle of light reflection to the lens and increasing the likelihood of light reflection off normally sub-visible particles. Hence, the orb artifact is commonplace with small digital or film camera photographs.

The orb artifact can result from reflection of light off solid particles (e.g., dust, pollen), liquid particles (water droplets - especially rain) or other foreign material within the camera lens.

The image artifacts usually appear as either white or semi-transparent circles, though may also occur with whole or partial color spectra, purple fringing or other chromatic aberration. With rain droplets, an image may capture light passing through the droplet creating a small rainbow effect.

Underwater photographers notice the effect also, which occurs for the same reason as above-water photographic artifacts. Sand, small sea life or other particles close to the lens, invisible to the diver, reflect light from the flash causing the orb artifact in the image. A strobe flash, which distances the flash from the lens, eliminates the artifacts.

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:07 pm
by NuclearSilo
Yay, i like this kind of topic. Spirit sould ftw 8)

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=81711&p=1035239#p1035239

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:14 pm
by iGod
Someone fetch the straitjacket

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:18 pm
by Burningwolf
iGod wrote:Someone fetch the straitjacket

lol!

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:33 pm
by NuclearSilo
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:37 pm
by non ego man
That's obviously a reflection in the car or bus glass. You can clearly see the seat in front with a cushion or pillow on it.

Or maybe a ghost-cow. :banghead:

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:40 pm
by cin
lol take a picture of clouds, see what monsters you see there

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:44 pm
by NuclearSilo
but this is not cloud =.=
See the thing i wrote WTF? :shock:

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:48 pm
by raysisfenix
did u try touching it?

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:59 pm
by Reise
lol Dust and in-car reflections.

Spiritual "orbs" are the hugest BS I've heard any paranormal investigator talk about.

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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:16 am
by Rakion
maybe the last pic i'll ever post >.>
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this a clear dark place with the same place but another location...the lights are away like in the previous pic that i have posted... but WTF?! no orbs?! Maybe the dust have settled?... or maybe my father have cleaned the lens... idk???
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this one is very close to the light but nothing is showing?
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this one is clearly with under the light... and i still see orbs?!



i got this from searching on how to make fake orbs:http://www.njghosts.com/fake.html
What IS an Orb?


Obviously, no one really knows for sure, but Trent Brandon, in his excellent book, "The Ghost Hunter's Bible" says

"Many paranormal investigators believe that orbs are the essence of the soul or "life force" left behind after death. Orbs are perfect circles of pure energy that can be photographed and videotaped but almost never seen with the naked eye. Floating orbs retain a conscience with the same emotions, intelligence and personality traits of the living individual it represents".



I've been getting many emails saying "that's nothing but DUST!" to "that's a REAL orb!", and, sometimes, the former get kind of "snippy" about it! At this point, i don't know how to "prove" it either way....... (but, then, THEY can't, either!). I'm currently experimenting with "perspective" tests, as well as investigating 3-D photography. I'll keep you posted as to my results.


Lately, i've been hearing idiotic statements (from sites like "Ghost Study") that any picture with more than 3 orbs in it is probably dust. I'd like to know who the idiot is who came up with THAT number! Why "3"? It's a generally-accepted theory that an "orb is the first stage of a manifestion (apparition)". If this is true, then many, many orbs would have to "come together" (like living tissue cells) to generate the energy & substance needed to form an apparition.


IMHO, photos that show MANY orbs are the "2nd stage" of this. (The first stage being orbs -- "psychic energy" -- just "floating around". If conditions are right, they will merge and the 3rd stage (apparition) will be created.


Also, i myself have taken pix showing dozens of orbs, and IMMEDIATELY took another photo (as fast as my digital camera could charge -- 1 to 3 seconds). If it WAS dust, where did EVERY SINGLE dust particle go? How come they're ALL gone? You'd think that 1 or 2 would remain in the picture. People who parrot this sort of nonsense are FOOLS! (And, i don't give a damn WHAT their "credentials" are! Unlike them, I'M using Common Sense!).


I've also been told that "digital cameras" can cause "color correction of the pixels in dim light", and that they should NOT be used for ghost hunting. BS! As a test, i took over THREE HUNDRED pictures in different kinds of lighting conditions, and did not record ONE orb!


(I personally think you have a much better chance of capturing a REAL orb than that "color correction" nonsense! (Now, don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that it doesn't happen; i just don't think that it happens as much as these "experts" seem to think it does).


IMHO, i feel that 35mm photography is MUCH MORE suseptible to creating "images", due to faults with the film itself, chemical developing, & printing processes. But, that's just MY opinion!


My opinion is backed up by a friend of mine, who actually worked in a film developing lab and really knows his stuff about 35mm photography. He writes:


"The idea of color correction causing the orbs isn't right. Film has just as many, if not more problems than digital. I've been involved EXTENSIVELY with color darkroom materials and convention photography shooting back from 1982-6. I worked with a company called Instrumentation Associates out of Merritt Island, and designed, built and tested darkroom color processors. I've even made my own custom color formulas for developing films and had my own color darkroom. In the 90's I attended AFI taking digital courses, and can tell you, the correction simply shits the gamma (the slope of the 3 color curves). It is my opinion that digital ccd sensor would probably provide a degree of repeatability that is desirable, actually"....


I think it depends on what you've come to believe (and, *I* believe that they ARE orbs!), so pls don't write me any "snippy" letters unless you can backup (with PROOF) what you're saying!
Happy Hunting!

i'm pretty much convinced to this dude =/


sorry to be rude but i need a pic. on the dust in the pic., light, raindrops. b4 i get cnvinced that it was the camera and not something else.

Re: Massive Spiritual Orbs! Must SEE!! 56K warning...

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:26 am
by Reise
Take a picture of these orbs without flash on the camera and I'll believe it's paranormal.

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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:34 am
by Amelie
NuclearSilo wrote:Image


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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:33 am
by non ego man
Rakion wrote:i'm pretty much convinced to this dude =/


*sigh*

@Amelie...that's just dust. and lol

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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:37 am
by Grimm-.-
ZOMGWTF!1!111@!@12221!!!
Spiritual ORBS!
Tey Are the Feks!@!@12

No but seriosly...
*Sigh@U*
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