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Faith - False or?
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:54 pm
by Nitro
Well... my dear SRF-ers ... with a question I come ... Sooo okay... lets start like this ... Faith ... Lets put this example... before people tought that earth is everything ... they believed in it... Then science came and proved the faith that its wrong ... that we arent alone ... that we are little piece of universe ... soo basicly we put faith first , then science comes and conquers it ... Science > Faith ...
Where science doesnt reach , there is faith until the science come and prove that faith is wrong... Thats how it will be maybe in future ... science will prove once again that faith is wrong ...
Your opinion?
Re: I think faith is shit
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:02 pm
by San
Re: I think faith is shit
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:08 pm
by DotCom
i think u mean religion
Re: I think faith is shit
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:10 pm
by Nitro
DotCom wrote:i think u mean religion
Hmmm... Faith , Religion ... does it really matter? ...well I read what the link that
San posted ... and I'm pretty amazed... but again ... lets stick to topic ... what do you guys have to say?
Re: I think faith is shit
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:17 pm
by Fat_Smurf
in before all jesus/allah/buddah/rael lover and NS
Re: I think faith is shit
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:22 pm
by XCaosX
i just dont make to myself so hard questions..
Re: I think faith is shit
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:23 pm
by redneck
When has Faith been proved wrong? It hasn't...Define faith please?
I think your a dumbass you should rethink his shit before reposting a topic that has been in the OTL time and time again...
Re: I think faith is shit
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:30 pm
by San
man, u guys are so harsh
cant we just like discuss things without getting all hotheaded and swearing at each other?
Re: I think faith is shit
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:32 pm
by Nitro
redneck wrote:When has Faith been proved wrong? It hasn't...Define faith please?
I think your a dumbass you should rethink his shit before reposting a topic that has been in the OTL time and time again...
Whats with the attitude? I just asked a question and putted my opinion about it, and wanted to know your opinions ... I'm maybe young and unexperienced , thats why I'm asking ...
Re: I think faith is shit
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:37 pm
by redneck
Nitro wrote:redneck wrote:When has Faith been proved wrong? It hasn't...Define faith please?
I think your a dumbass you should rethink his shit before reposting a topic that has been in the OTL time and time again...
Whats with the attitude? I just asked a question and putted my opinion about it, and wanted to know your opinions ... I'm maybe young and unexperienced , thats why I'm asking ...
Right when you said faith is shit...
Re: I think faith is shit
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:42 pm
by Nitro
redneck wrote:Nitro wrote:redneck wrote:When has Faith been proved wrong? It hasn't...Define faith please?
I think your a dumbass you should rethink his shit before reposting a topic that has been in the OTL time and time again...
Whats with the attitude? I just asked a question and putted my opinion about it, and wanted to know your opinions ... I'm maybe young and unexperienced , thats why I'm asking ...
Right when you said faith is shit...
Pleased now? Well... my opinion is that faith is something that answers some questions that are hard to be answered , until science comes and answers it
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:35 am
by Morgoth
Science can answer how questions but only religion can answer why questions
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:54 am
by Nuklear
Morgoth wrote:Science can answer how questions but only religion can answer why questions
How can religion answer questions? It isn't based on reason, logic, or proof.
Yes, Nitro. One day science will do something or explain something and I will have the last laugh. Provided I'm still alive anyway.
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:14 am
by Simplifique
Nuklear wrote:Morgoth wrote:Science can answer how questions but only religion can answer why questions
How can religion answer questions? It isn't based on reason, logic, or proof.
Yes, Nitro. One day science will do something or explain something and I will have the last laugh.
Provided I'm still alive anyway.
Have faith :3.
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:20 am
by Morgoth
How was life created?
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:26 am
by Belgarath
Morgoth wrote:How was life created?
Which is a matter of faith.
Faith is fallible and contains no logic, if used in this sense. I for one dont go for the whole faith scene.
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:32 am
by Nuklear
Morgoth wrote:How was life created?
Most likely evolution.
So, in the absence of knowledge you fall back on something that's not based on knowledge? Ya, that makes sense.
Belgarath: +1
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:35 am
by Belgarath
Nuklear wrote:Morgoth wrote:How was life created?
Most likely evolution.
So, in the absence of knowledge you fall back on something that's not based on knowledge? Ya, that makes sense.
Belgarath: +1
Exactly. I'd rather not believe in anything if the truth is not scientifically proven.
Brain Power > Faith Power
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:43 am
by Morgoth
Nuklear wrote:Morgoth wrote:How was life created?
Most likely evolution.
you're getting off topic, i asked how life was created not how it progressed
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:45 am
by Simplifique
Morgoth wrote:Nuklear wrote:Morgoth wrote:How was life created?
Most likely evolution.
you're getting off topic, i asked how life was created not how it progressed
Primordial soup theory.
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:52 am
by Nuklear
Morgoth wrote:Nuklear wrote:Morgoth wrote:How was life created?
Most likely evolution.
you're getting off topic, i asked how life was created not how it progressed
Don't know and honestly don't care. It has little impact on me. Maybe if we found out what actually happened it would effect me, but it doesn't now. Are you getting to something or just wanted to pick my brain?
With you all the way, Belgarath.
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:55 am
by Tasdik
Faith>Science....the whole big bang theory is bull crap
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:57 am
by Simplifique
Tasdik wrote:Faith>Science....the whole big bang theory is bull crap
Then disprove it.
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:59 am
by Belgarath
Epic Christian Reasoning-
When someone dies or something bad happens.
"God has a plan for everyone."
When someone is born retarded or disabled.
"God made everyone for a purpose."
...And my favorite
When confronted with immoral acts.
"God forgives us of all our sins."
Gotta love 'em.
All because they have faith.
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:02 am
by Tasdik
Simplifique wrote:Tasdik wrote:Faith>Science....the whole big bang theory is bull crap
Then disprove it.
Alright for one....the earth is spinning on an axis of 23 1/2 degrees *I think* if it were any closer/farther to the sun it couldn't support life...now how is that just a random coincidence?
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:04 am
by Nuklear
My favorite is praising god only when good things happen. You never hear someone praising the fact they have cancer.
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:07 am
by Simplifique
Tasdik wrote:Simplifique wrote:Tasdik wrote:Faith>Science....the whole big bang theory is bull crap
Then disprove it.
Alright for one....the earth is spinning on an axis of 23 1/2 degrees *I think* if it were any closer/farther to the sun it couldn't support life...now how is that just a random coincidence?
For a believer, it couldnt be coincidence. Hence it has meaning, and you can draw faith from it. From a scientific point of view, the fact that it exists in that loca, is a condition met to sustain primordial soup theory. Two sides of the same coin.
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:08 am
by Vandall
Nuklear wrote:My favorite is praising god only when good things happen. You never hear someone praising the fact they have cancer.
I don't hear ppl praising him in the usual sense, but I hear ppl saying "this is for the best", and stuff like that.
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:08 am
by Tasdik
Nuklear wrote:My favorite is praising god only when good things happen. You never hear someone praising the fact they have cancer.
Cancer is our fault most of the time....very few time if ever is it God's
Re: Faith - False or?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:10 am
by Tasdik
For a believer, it couldnt be coincidence. Hence it has meaning, and you can draw faith from it. From a scientific point of view, the fact that it exists in that loca, is a condition met to sustain primordial soup theory. Two sides of the same coin.
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I disagree... It is not logical that the earth happened to appear exactly at the right spot in thee entire universe to support life.....someone knew where it had to be ...God knew where it had to be