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Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:44 pm
by JacksColon
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:46 pm
by Priam
JacksColon wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7233537.stm
This guy was a total goober.

I am gonna have to agree on that, he's doing himself a favor.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:49 pm
by JacksColon
Priam wrote:JacksColon wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7233537.stm
This guy was a total goober.

I am gonna have to agree on that, he's doing himself a favor.
And us. I don't like any of the republican candidates, but even if he isn't as nutty as Huckabee, he's a bold-faced liar (most of them are, but he takes the cake). Anyways, he sucks. Good riddance!

Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:52 pm
by chickenfeather
He "suspended" his campaign - meaning he can come back at any time

just like john edwards.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:56 pm
by Tasdik
I'd hoped Ron Paul would have been the one who dropped out before Romney...ah well
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:56 pm
by JacksColon
chickenfeather wrote:He "suspended" his campaign - meaning he can come back at any time

just like john edwards.
Well, if you believe that (for either) then you don't understand US politics.

Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:57 pm
by Priam
Returning from suspension isn't a real possibility in this race.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:59 pm
by JacksColon
Yeah, you can't say "I'm KIND OF giving up"
When you drop out like that, you can't hope to come back in, because you don't have enough interest in your campaign to begin with. coming back weeks or months later is a joke, because things move too fast here in US politics. You will be long forgotten.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:02 pm
by XemnasXD
best news i've heard all day
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:04 pm
by chickenfeather
JacksColon wrote:Yeah, you can't say "I'm KIND OF giving up"
When you drop out like that, you can't hope to come back in, because you don't have enough interest in your campaign to begin with. coming back weeks or months later is a joke, because things move too fast here in US politics. You will be long forgotten.
But that's what they are doing... they are "suspending" to hold on to their delegates not quitting. It doesn't matter if they are forgotten or not. I'm guessing it's a strategic move but I don't know what their goal is.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:08 pm
by Priam
I would like to know there motives then, Cause holding on to something that hasn't put you even near the lead, is kinda weird.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:13 pm
by chickenfeather
Oh... I looked on wiki and pulled up this thing about a brokered convention:
If there is no single candidate receiving a majority of delegates at the end of the primary season, a scenario called a brokered convention would result, where a candidate would be selected either at or near the convention, through political horse-trading and lesser candidates compelling their delegates to vote for one of the front runners
So, by holding on to their delegates, Edwards and Romney can influence who becomes the nominee.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:23 pm
by Priam
Ah.. ok. Though that still isn't directly beneficial to Romney, unless he had allready give up.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:39 pm
by JacksColon
Well, sort of. But also, especially for Edwards, he might be vying for a VP spot too.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:40 pm
by XemnasXD
i dunno if your always allowed to transfer delegates....does anyone know the rules on that because i know there are situations where you can't
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:45 pm
by Priam
Hmm, good question, and google doesn't provide me with any answers :/
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:48 pm
by JacksColon
On the Republican side, decisions on how to allocate delegates is left to the state parties.
On the Democratic side, a candidate who "suspends" is technically still a candidate, so he or she keeps both district and statewide delegates won through primaries and caucuses. Superdelegates are always free to support any candidate at any time, whether the candidate drops out, suspends or stays in.
National party rules say that a candidate who "drops out" keeps any district-level delegates he or she has won so far but loses any statewide delegates he or she has won.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:42 pm
by Nuklear
I was flabbergasted when I read the news. Here's the video:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/07/ ... nnSTCVideoI'm not sure who exactly has control over the delegates. I always thought it was themselves. It does sound like if Romney has control over them then he'll send them John's way, securing the nomination and the Dem win in Nov. This might be good for my man Paul too. It's wishful thinking but more Rep might go searching for another candidate, not that Mitt is compatible to Paul, and the MSM might have something to say besides two candidates. I won't hold my breath though. >_>
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:02 pm
by JacksColon
Nuklear wrote: I won't hold my breath though. >_>
That's a good idea

Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:05 pm
by Nuklear
The childish remarks about Paul really need to stop.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:27 pm
by JacksColon
Oh hush, learn how to take a joke
Just cuz Ru Paul won't win doesn't mean he didn't get a lot of people energized and probably help steer the debates on issues a bit


Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:36 pm
by Nuklear
I found nothing funny about your attempt to be sarcastic. It's best to just leave this subject alone...but I see that's hard for you. I do agree with your last sentence even though, overall, you're very pompous. Unless things get back ontopic I see no reason for me to engage in this thread anymore.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:55 pm
by JacksColon
You take things too seriously. You think I'm pompous, I think I'm cheerful. If I were talking about Romney or McCain in such terms, you'd be cheering me on, but since it's about YOUR boy, you get all wound up. Calm down.

or don't. hell, what do I care

Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:23 pm
by Deadsolid
Lol, I guess we know who the Republican nomination is.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:49 pm
by Nuklear

Unfortunately, for all the smarts the scientist has he fails to see that a perfect Republican candidate already exists.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:51 pm
by JacksColon
haha gotta love Modern World
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:53 pm
by avanti42
I'd like to hear some examples of Romney being a "bold faced liar" cause all i ever hear is people saying that and not backing it up. its kinda funny cause people say that about him and say nothing about hillary who has been caught on national TV contradicting herself and then denying it.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:08 pm
by JacksColon
avanti42 wrote:I'd like to hear some examples of Romney being a "bold faced liar" cause all i ever hear is people saying that and not backing it up. its kinda funny cause people say that about him and say nothing about hillary who has been caught on national TV contradicting herself and then denying it.
Examples? SuRE!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HotMWgYVm2Q&feature=relatedhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=WbbazjY8Adw&feature=relatedhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=H5Xc-X8LckQ&feature=relatedhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=J3urX7ijSNc&feature=related (my fave)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4kCyAgVoHSc&feature=relatedBut, I'm not saying Hillary isn't a liar either
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6Yplk29g1ec&feature=related
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:10 pm
by Nuklear
Ya, it's hard not to find incriminating stuff on 'frontrunners'.
Love John's Mitt on Mitt.
Re: Romney Quits - Thankfully
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:46 pm
by avanti42
alright ill give you that one but i still like him better than mccain
to bad hes gone