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So tell me, why are you here? Since the dawn of time, many people have speculated over a "meaning of life" or a "reason for living". Several theories have been formed, most of which are based around love, happiness, productivity, or, the number 42.

But, now, if you have the time, i'd like you to really think about it. I mean, what are you doin on this Earth. What are you doin that makes your life less futile. Less futile? Surely I mean worthwhile? No. I mean less futile. For, the way I see it, life is completely and utterly futile, with very few exceptions. Lets take this step by step.

Love. Yes, love is a wonderful thing, and when two people are in love, they can be happier than ever, no worries at all in life. Love innately has its own problems in connection with life. The pain will come in one of a few ways, either they will leave you, or you leave them, or something is caused that you break up. People gonna get hurt. On the other hand of course, maybe its till-the-day-I-die-best-thing-to-ever-happen-to-me love. Super. One of you will die before the other one. Best case? You both die together, or at a very very old age.

Even if you feel the pain is worth it, and that it makes the time you have on this earth living, what can you do that reduces the futility? You are gonna die and there aint nothing you can do tostop it. Have a kid? Ok so you produced a life. Grats, but that kid'll die and his kids, and his and so forth and unless hes got that thing that many others alive dont (see below). So love can be fun, and though the reproduction aspect is important, as we shall see, it is eventually, futile.

So you see, happiness doesnt stop the fact yuo will die. You can have fun, but you will eventually die, and what will you be remembered for? Theres 6 billion(give or take the odd one ) people alive. How many do you think are dead? A fuckload. How many of those are remembered for the great things they did? Newton. Einstein. Washington. Even Hitler. The lives of men like these made significant changes to the world and life as we know and understand it. People like these can say that their life was indeed not futile.

Lol, originally this was a far longer post, but i cut a lot out else ppl wont read it otherwise, i know you lazy kids. maybe if i made it into a comedy youtube movie, or put lots of sh1t and copy pasted things n stuff? (jk, (K) Stall).

But yeah to conclude, life is futile. you can do what you want to make it fun, last longer, be more entertaining, educational, discover things. But eventually you will die. And when you do, what will you have done to make such a change to the lives of others. Maybe you made other people happy. Great, but the people you made happy are gonna die too, nothing special to make life incredibly different. Futile I tells ya.

Discuss.


I'll put up my own counter to it after a few others posted =)

Life is a precious thing, most people just don't value how precious it is.
And with all the aspects of life like, love, fertility, reproduction and all the different emotions like you mentioned. It makes you wonder what caused this life, and all the many amazing aspects apart of it, but that I guess should be left for a different topic

life is :
being born, having sex, and finally being dead. basically everything else is to mask the fact that we don;t have long to live. really tbh we have the same purpose as animals. well thats my 3 cents

I don't give a damn about the meaning of life.
Thinking about makes me slightly depressive, thus I ignore it.

I'm happy I'm alive, while being in fairly good health with enough friends to make things pleasant.
Sure things can always go worse, but thinking about that, will interfere with living in the present.

Most people wonder all that stuff mainly when they are almost teenagers. I still do sometimes, I used to cry about it not because of saddness but frustration, I had so many questions annd nobody to answer them I used to get so mad at everything for that.

Life is complicated yet very simple, you have your priorities, just like everyone else. You have your dreams, your beloved ones, you have a job, you have a hobby.
Life is like a rollcoaster, sometimes it goes slow and gets you down, sometimes it's so fast and fun that you feel like flying. Everyone gets depressed at some point of their lives, and everyone is eventually happy, even if it's for just a moment.

you have your concept of life, and I have mine. In my opinion you should live life with no regrets, because in the end, the question "what if...?" is what really matters. I know I have a few of those, some goals I'll never be able to achieve. Try to keep those at a minium and to get rid of the skeletons in your closet and you'll be fine, at least that's the plan I'm sticking to.

I'm curious that you used the word "futile". I think a better word would be "meaningless". Because, yes, we all die, and what does it matter? Nothing. There are exceptions, of course. Eintstein being one. As I've stated in previous posts, I think that life only matters to the person living it. He/she gives it meaning. However, on a larger scale, it doesn't matter. 1 person living a life and then dying doesn't really affect anything. sure that person will effect those he/she comes into contact with, but those people don't really matter either, on a larger scale. Hell, 6 billion people don't matter. If earth is destroyed by a massive comet or asteroid, are aliens in the andromeda galaxy gonna cry? For all we know, there have been countless "intelligent" alien species throughout the galaxy and universe who have been obliterated and become extinct. Do we care? If we find out, will we care? No. Should we care? IMO, no. Sure, if one of those aliens was a friend of mine, I'd care. It's the same thing when I read in the newspaper about a car accident where someone is killed. Inevitably, someone that I know will read the same article and be upset and sad and all that. But I ask, "why? you don't know that person. Yes, it's awful for that person's loved ones, but why does it matter to you? You don't need to shoulder the burden of pain for someone's loss who you don't even know"

Anyway, is life meaningless, to me. NO...I enjoy living. I matter to those that love me, and those that I love matter to me. But, is my life and death going to effect the continuation of the universe? No. It's all about scale.

anyway, that's my 25 cents hahaa

just live life to its fullest and have fun

I have thought alot about this kind of stuff many times..
The conclusion i came to was that its best not to think too much.

In reality my sense of life is not just happiness all these emotions at a degree where constructed by us humans to feel more comfort, cuz if you see most living things survival goes first then comfort but we passed the stage of even considering survival ,so all we have to worry about is comfort

and when i hear people saying we are all a reflection of ourselfs it makes sense we are all human trying to organize our comfort
and the things introduced to as children subconsciously misuse for comfort instead of survival helps us

the more i think of it, i also start to see how we lost the thought and completely lost our selfs in comfort we are no longer a human animal
we are the magical creatures we call demons as we describe them as pleasure seekers in reality wether you run to religion,music,companionship,family,yoga or whatever activity no matter if its considered right or wrong in our small blink in time, its all for comfort so really do enjoy your life no matter what.
even if you live in horrible conditions you should be comfortable with simply being alive we are not immortal we wont see the sun rise forever ..life's very reason is to stay alive and that within itself is comfort because living is comfort the rest just enhances it

so thats my thought on life dont like it just ignore it

and thinking about what where here for or all that is just insecurities in ourselfs

ill admit it im insecure with my personality

Silver0 wrote:In reality my sense of life is not just happiness all these emotions at a degree where constructed by us humans to feel more comfort, cuz if you see most living things survival goes first then comfort but we passed the stage of even considering survival ,so all we have to worry about is comfort

and when i hear people saying we are all a reflection of ourselfs it makes sense we are all human trying to organize our comfort
and the things introduced to as children subconsciously misuse for comfort instead of survival helps us

the more i think of it, i also start to see how we lost the thought and completely lost our selfs in comfort we are no longer a human animal
we are the magical creatures we call demons as we describe them as pleasure seekers in reality wether you run to religion,music,companionship,family,yoga or whatever activity no matter if its considered right or wrong in our small blink in time, its all for comfort so really do enjoy your life no matter what.
even if you live in horrible conditions you should be comfortable with simply being alive we are not immortal we wont see the sun rise forever ..life's very reason is to stay alive and that within itself is comfort because living is comfort the rest just enhances it

so thats my thought on life dont like it just ignore it

and thinking about what where here for or all that is just insecurities in ourselfs

ill admit it im insecure with my personality

interesting points. I've also thought how we've tended to think of ourselves as "above" animals in some way because we have feelings...truly we are animals, eventhough, I agree, we have become obsessed with nonessential things such as money, ipods, sro, punanny, etc.

just have fun while you're alive.

life is what you make it. Its meaning can be defined by you while you are alive and by those who remember you after you are dead but regardless the impact and the true meaning of your life is often unknown to many. Meaning and purpose can be found in different things depending upon perspective. True meaning would be in respect the universe and i cannot fathom what role a single life play in the grand scheme but all life and death serves a purpose, if only to bring the universe closer it its inevitable end.

As of now i believe my purpose is to help fix the world.

XemnasXD wrote:As of now i believe my purpose is to help fix the world.

ROFL LMFAO going comedian huh
only way to save this world is to end the human race,
unless you mean save the human race not the planet

Silver0 wrote:

XemnasXD wrote:As of now i believe my purpose is to help fix the world.

ROFL LMFAO going comedian huh
only way to save this world is to end the human race,
unless you mean save the human race not the planet

we can save earth. we just need to all move to another planet. ..Mars, here we come!

JacksColon wrote:

Silver0 wrote:

XemnasXD wrote:As of now i believe my purpose is to help fix the world.

ROFL LMFAO going comedian huh
only way to save this world is to end the human race,
unless you mean save the human race not the planet

we can save earth. we just need to all move to another planet. ..Mars, here we come!

then what save mars? where not suited for what we want ppl like xemnas just want a good environment for themselves, we screwed up and planting trees and recycling wont change it back,
get off your pc dont buy cellphones tvs anything electrical they all contain a harmful substance for the environment live in a farm eating lettuce

be careful b/c if you put pesticides they kill bugs which
= less bug eaters
=less animals that eat the bug eaters
=less animals that eat other animals
just with one living person trillions of other living things are killed in this planet
in a hurry to save sexually transmitted Crabs??
or only save what you want?
how about bacteria?
or do you mean save the planet cuz this planet is millions of years old and it can evolve and where evolving it atm, we will be gone and nature/earth will incorporate what we leave

all the tree hugging ppl just want to save themselves from themselves

thats why it makes me angry

\living kills accept it

I'm happy I'm alive. and the life is love,help other ,have fun.good health and the list can go on. finally being dead

Good to see varied responses ^_^
Anyhow, as I said, id post my counter, but its basically already been said. Sure, we’re futile or, as JC says meaningless, but that doesn’t meant we cant enjoy the time we have. We’ve been blessed with, albeit a tiny tiny tiny spec of time in comparison to other things in the universe, but its time nonetheless and we should value it while we have it.

I once heard something that made me think about this... i think it was in the movie "The Matrix: Reloaded": "The purpose of Life is to end".

And i agree to it. The only certain consequence of life is death, the circumstances can be different, the events in it can be different but, in the end, death will be there for us.

What will happen when the Earth is destroyed? Unless humans travel to another world and infect it and destroy it just as we have done (and are doing) with Earth, the Universe will exist as if nothing relevant had happened.

I agree that we should enjoy our time, but i don´t expect that time to be important to anyone else but myself or my loved ones.

Each and every one of us has a purpose in this life, and non of us know this purpose. our goal is to achieve this purpose.

and no life is not futile imo.

Silver0 wrote:

JacksColon wrote:

Silver0 wrote:

XemnasXD wrote:As of now i believe my purpose is to help fix the world.

ROFL LMFAO going comedian huh
only way to save this world is to end the human race,
unless you mean save the human race not the planet

we can save earth. we just need to all move to another planet. ..Mars, here we come!

then what save mars? where not suited for what we want ppl like xemnas just want a good environment for themselves, we screwed up and planting trees and recycling wont change it back,
get off your pc dont buy cellphones tvs anything electrical they all contain a harmful substance for the environment live in a farm eating lettuce

be careful b/c if you put pesticides they kill bugs which
= less bug eaters
=less animals that eat the bug eaters
=less animals that eat other animals
just with one living person trillions of other living things are killed in this planet
in a hurry to save sexually transmitted Crabs??
or only save what you want?
how about bacteria?
or do you mean save the planet cuz this planet is millions of years old and it can evolve and where evolving it atm, we will be gone and nature/earth will incorporate what we leave

all the tree hugging ppl just want to save themselves from themselves

thats why it makes me angry

\living kills accept it

IMO your logic is flawed. The only REAL purpose of a species is to survive and procreate (thus furthering the species' survival). and the "tree huggers" you talk about are also greatly concerned that damaging the environment will cause serious problems for the developing world, where poor people cannot escape from such problems as those in wealthier states.....And eventually, these problems will become more and more global (and are becoming) and even the rich won't be able to escape them - read "Risk Society" by Ulrich Beck if you can understand it. Also, future generations will be burdened with the environmental problems we have created. If you have kids, you don't want them to have to struggle harder to survive.

well i guess its hard for people to care that much since nobody alive now will live to see anything really horrible

IMO your logic is flawed. The only REAL purpose of a species is to survive and procreate (thus furthering the species' survival). and the "tree huggers" you talk about are also greatly concerned that damaging the environment will cause serious problems for the developing world, where poor people cannot escape from such problems as those in wealthier states.....And eventually, these problems will become more and more global (and are becoming) and even the rich won't be able to escape them - read "Risk Society" by Ulrich Beck if you can understand it. Also, future generations will be burdened with the environmental problems we have created. If you have kids, you don't want them to have to struggle harder to survive.

yeah understood but then it shouldn't be names global
"Human Warning"
the world poses no danger

all comes back to our own environment and our procreated beings environment not the world its self

the selfish act within that is what makes me sick

all the tree hugging ppl just want to save themselves from themselves

so once again living kills,
even our own future species.

A Whole Species committing massive suicide/murder under a live happy mind set is beautiful in an ironic way


Question is live with what makes you happy or
Be Happy with what you live

Silver0 wrote:

IMO your logic is flawed. The only REAL purpose of a species is to survive and procreate (thus furthering the species' survival). and the "tree huggers" you talk about are also greatly concerned that damaging the environment will cause serious problems for the developing world, where poor people cannot escape from such problems as those in wealthier states.....And eventually, these problems will become more and more global (and are becoming) and even the rich won't be able to escape them - read "Risk Society" by Ulrich Beck if you can understand it. Also, future generations will be burdened with the environmental problems we have created. If you have kids, you don't want them to have to struggle harder to survive.

yeah understood but then it shouldn't be names global
"Human Warning"
the world poses no danger

all comes back to our own environment and our procreated beings environment not the world its self

the selfish act within that is what makes me sick

all the tree hugging ppl just want to save themselves from themselves

so once again living kills,
even our own future species.

A Whole Species committing massive suicide/murder under a live happy mind set is beautiful in an ironic way


Question is live with what makes you happy or
Be Happy with what you live

It's called "Global Warming" not warning. The earth IS warming. WE are causing it. It's effects can eradicate not only other species of plants and animals, but can greatly harm our own.

JacksColon wrote:

Silver0 wrote:

IMO your logic is flawed. The only REAL purpose of a species is to survive and procreate (thus furthering the species' survival). and the "tree huggers" you talk about are also greatly concerned that damaging the environment will cause serious problems for the developing world, where poor people cannot escape from such problems as those in wealthier states.....And eventually, these problems will become more and more global (and are becoming) and even the rich won't be able to escape them - read "Risk Society" by Ulrich Beck if you can understand it. Also, future generations will be burdened with the environmental problems we have created. If you have kids, you don't want them to have to struggle harder to survive.

yeah understood but then it shouldn't be names global
"Human Warning"
the world poses no danger

all comes back to our own environment and our procreated beings environment not the world its self

the selfish act within that is what makes me sick

all the tree hugging ppl just want to save themselves from themselves

so once again living kills,
even our own future species.

A Whole Species committing massive suicide/murder under a live happy mind set is beautiful in an ironic way


Question is live with what makes you happy or
Be Happy with what you live

It's called "Global Warming" not warning. The earth IS warming. WE are causing it. It's effects can eradicate not only other species of plants and animals, but can greatly harm our own.

well yeah agreed but people should stop saying there trying to save the earth, it seems reasonable to say where trying to save ourselves and more poetic i must add

GrindingEternaly wrote:life is :
being born, having sex, and finally being dead. basically everything else is to mask the fact that we don;t have long to live. really tbh we have the same purpose as animals. well thats my 3 cents

+1 ;D

I agree to some degree. The lexicon has become a bit watered down. To say that we're saving the planet, I think some people really believe that too. But, I firmly believe that there is no such thing as altruism, thus, if you are "saving the environment" what you're really doing is "saving the environment from humans which thus leads to a better life and chance of survival FOR humans" ...not as catch tho haha

HejsaN wrote:

GrindingEternaly wrote:life is :
being born, having sex, and finally being dead. basically everything else is to mask the fact that we don;t have long to live. really tbh we have the same purpose as animals. well thats my 3 cents

+1 ;D

i love having sex. being born and dying I could do without tho

rebirth would be fun.

mosiac wrote:rebirth would be fun.

rebirth? like how? reincarnation, sure. but, getting all gooey all over again and screaming and being covered in blood...no thanks

as in every thing starts over again. you don't remember anything of your last life/or you do. either you come back as the same species you were pre-death or it be random. then again this world will probably be dead in the next lifetime..