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Weed.. or "Pot" to those of you who don't smoke it, and "dope" for those of you who know nothing about drugs whatsoever.

I've been smoking grain for about 10 years now, and it's come to my attention that there are proven negative side effects to smoking marijuana.. And yet none of them seem to apply to me. One of the things I read specifically sparked my interest, that marijuana can actually make you stupider, which I thought was ludicrous. I am a member of MENSA, with an IQ of 183, so surely if marijuana made you stupider 100% of the time, that would be impossible. This got me thinking, is it because we believe these things will happen to us that new smokers are stupider, have a harder time concentrating, develop spelling problems, and can even stunt their growth with marijuana, or is it all a bunch of crap?

I remember when the hot myth around was that orange products, specifically the consumption of vitamin C, interrupted the THC molecules in your bloodstream, thereby ruining your high.... Except these were unfounded, because vitamin C is a visual enhancer, and if anything would actually enhance your high. Could this be the case with these modern day rumours? I don't recall such blasphemy being spilled in the 60's..

So how about the smokers here? Are youi plagued by any of the health hazards of smoking marijuana?

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For those of you keen on finding the truth about marijuana =]

im with you, i only smoke occasionally, rather than regularly. But a few of my mates do smoke on a regular basis and they too are highly intelligent people (we are doin the same course at uni afterall, not like they are doin media)

nope not really I tried it once cus I was wanted 2 see what it was like but I didn't try it again I kno people who have been smoking it for like 15 years and such..I have noticed that the person or persons take longer to reply at times or sometimes ask me the same question they asked me like 5 mins ago nothing major though

What weed does to you is simple: it kills your neurons. Your brain will stop generating them at the age of 25~ then you're fked.
How old are you?

i don't have to deal with all these things because there a big waste of money, Did adam take weed in the garden of eden or smoke or drink alcohol? lol.

Never done drugs so from my pov i couldn't care less about what people believe weed to do.

i wanna smoke soooo bad but if my parents found out i would be in some deep shit plus i dont want to disappoint them like that. ive tried it and it was cool but shit was making me all twitchy, dunno wtf that was. but yea i might start in college or w/e.

Aby wrote: I am a member of MENSA

So that explains why you're such an arrogant ass all the time!

Casey613 wrote:What weed does to you is simple: it kills your neurons. Your brain will stop generating them at the age of 25~ then you're fked.
How old are you?

Your neurons never regenerate, not the ones in your brain anyway (peripheral ones do to an extent).

On topic, remember that most medical evidence are population based, so statistically you couldnt look at the effects of one person with certainty, but with relativity of what happened in a representative population over a limited observation. As far as I'm concerned, THC has limited medicinal use, more in the management of chronic pain (and other medical conditions like glaucoma etc) but it is still narrow, and there are other alternatives. Like all drugs, there are side effects which varies with dosage, frequency, tolerance, interaction with other drugs, genetic susceptibility (in particular related to its pharmacodynamics so think cyp450 enzymes and similar clearance enzyme pathways).

Since its therapeutic potential is limited, and its side effects are profound (various literature since the 60's and updated to this day, in particular linked to an increase risk of psychiatric complications) it is mainly used as a recreational drug. Saying that none of the side effects affect you is like talking about the one person who lived to over 100 but smokes like a chimney , while ignoring the fact that millions of people who smoke die each year from complications directly related to tobacco use.

So should you ignore and continue smoking marjuana? Thats your choice. Personally, I used to be a regular smoker myself until I had to give up the habit (conflict with career choice).

JacksColon wrote:

Aby wrote: I am a member of MENSA

So that explains why you're such an arrogant ass all the time!

it explains why i am xD

Trice wrote:

JacksColon wrote:

Aby wrote: I am a member of MENSA

So that explains why you're such an arrogant ass all the time!

it explains why i am xD

You know what's funny about MENSA members is that they love telling people how smart and intelligent they are and how high their IQ is. It's like the guy telling everyone how big his dick is.

Aby wrote: is it because we believe these things will happen to us that new smokers are stupider, have a harder time concentrating, develop spelling problems, and can even stunt their growth with marijuana, or is it all a bunch of crap?

Also, for being a MENSA member, shouldn't you know that "stupider" isn't the correct way of expressing that idea? "more stupid" would be better

Is stupider even a word?

I don't think so.

But... Yeah, it's possible they could be wrong. Most of the rumors are.

All that marijuana does to you is damage your lungs with smoke and tar, and if you do it too much without rest, then the THC (I don't even know if that's right) cells clog up your brain.

I don't think I've actually ever heard any rumors about it though, so maybe that's all that's being said? If so, then yeah, all that stuff's true.

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JacksColon wrote:

Aby wrote: is it because we believe these things will happen to us that new smokers are stupider, have a harder time concentrating, develop spelling problems, and can even stunt their growth with marijuana, or is it all a bunch of crap?

Also, for being a MENSA member, shouldn't you know that "stupider" isn't the correct way of expressing that idea? "more stupid" would be better

Damn, beat me to it.

Smoking 5 times a day will **** up your brain. But, it heals over time.

PimpC wrote:Smoking 5 times a day will **** up your brain. But, it heals over time.

Such misconception xD. Your neurons dont regenerate, you just form lost neuronal connections using remaining neurons.

183 IQ huh. I guess everyone on the internet ARE geniuses.

I'm also a genius, my IQ is 191 and I'm an internet PhD in absolutely everything.

Sylhana wrote:

Casey613 wrote:What weed does to you is simple: it kills your neurons. Your brain will stop generating them at the age of 25~ then you're fked.
How old are you?

Your neurons never regenerate, not the ones in your brain anyway (peripheral ones do to an extent).

I agree with you Syls, funny how people say that, based on 0 facts.

Sylhana wrote:So should you ignore and continue smoking marjuana? Thats your choice. Personally, I used to be a regular smoker myself until I had to give up the habit (conflict with career choice).

unlike you, i still smoke once in a while. Just for chill and giggles.

I smoke it from time to time.
BTW sylhana, what do you study?
The things you say look awfully familiar to what I study.

http://www.chrisbrunner.com/2006/12/05/ ... ana-myths/

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takolin wrote:I smoke it from time to time.
BTW sylhana, what do you study?
The things you say look awfully familiar to what I study.

Dr Syl m.d

Amelie wrote:unlike you, i still smoke once in a while. Just for chill and giggles.

Maybe I just dont admit it openly, but thats our little secret.

Reise wrote:183 IQ huh. I guess everyone on the internet ARE geniuses.

I'm also a genius, my IQ is 191 and I'm an internet PhD in absolutely everything.

Me too, my IQ is a googleplex

Sylhana wrote:

PimpC wrote:Smoking 5 times a day will **** up your brain. But, it heals over time.

Such misconception xD. Your neurons dont regenerate, you just form lost neuronal connections using remaining neurons.

Maybe not regenerate but you can grow new one. Recently it was discovered that brain cells can regenerate. I'll look up the study later but im pretty sure its possible, not at the level of other cells but over many months/years its possible.

Reise wrote:183 IQ huh. I guess everyone on the internet ARE geniuses.

I'm also a genius, my IQ is 191 and I'm an internet PhD in absolutely everything.

i lol'd hard


but seriously IQ is nothing to brag about. An Idiot-Savant has a terrible IQ and yet can do calculations in there brain most geniuses would consider impossible....

XemnasXD wrote:

Sylhana wrote:

PimpC wrote:Smoking 5 times a day will **** up your brain. But, it heals over time.

Such misconception xD. Your neurons dont regenerate, you just form lost neuronal connections using remaining neurons.

Maybe not regenerate but you can grow new one. Recently it was discovered that brain cells can regenerate. I'll look up the study later but im pretty sure its possible, not at the level of other cells but over many months/years its possible.

All cells can multiply, but they can't "regenerate", a dead cell is a dead cell. That doesn't mean that new ones can't be made though.
If you know what I mean.

XemnasXD wrote:

Sylhana wrote:

PimpC wrote:Smoking 5 times a day will **** up your brain. But, it heals over time.

Such misconception xD. Your neurons dont regenerate, you just form lost neuronal connections using remaining neurons.

Maybe not regenerate but you can grow new one. Recently it was discovered that brain cells can regenerate. I'll look up the study later but im pretty sure its possible, not at the level of other cells but over many months/years its possible.

Reise wrote:183 IQ huh. I guess everyone on the internet ARE geniuses.

I'm also a genius, my IQ is 191 and I'm an internet PhD in absolutely everything.

i lol'd hard


but seriously IQ is nothing to brag about. An Idiot-Savant has a terrible IQ and yet can do calculations in there brain most geniuses would consider impossible....

You can in vitro, outside the body. Theres cells in the brain that inhibit new neurons to divide/grow (astroglial cells etc). You can however induce peripheral neurons to divide (ones in limbs for instance). But again, tech is rapidly evolving so my knowledge might already be out dated xD, if there is current research that does this in vivo I wont be suprised, and thats really great news .

Sylhana wrote:

PimpC wrote:Smoking 5 times a day will **** up your brain. But, it heals over time.

Such misconception xD. Your neurons dont regenerate, you just form lost neuronal connections using remaining neurons.

Wrong, it does regenerate over time, after a few months youll be almost back to normal, ive felt it first hand.

PimpC wrote:

Sylhana wrote:

PimpC wrote:Smoking 5 times a day will **** up your brain. But, it heals over time.

Such misconception xD. Your neurons dont regenerate, you just form lost neuronal connections using remaining neurons.

Wrong, it does regenerate over time, after a few months youll be almost back to normal, ive felt it first hand.

I lol'd.

You've felt your neurons regenerate?

fact: i smoke it ( weed )

fact: it's nice

fact: i don't have any health issues cuz of it


conclusion: GOOD SHIT !

i have average IQ and i can tell that weed doesnt really effect your IQ but it does lower your motivation which with it lowers your IQ
i seen ppl smoke once and they turn dumb but also seen ppl in there 50's who smoke and there fine ,
they just didnt lose motivation for other things that could enhance there IQ or keep it as so
In my theory it just makes ppl lazy its a downer what do you expect

EVerything over excessive kills something in your body
why isnt there commercials against Oil or WIFI they cause more dmg then drugs themselves

we all know why $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Silver0 wrote:we all know why $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

You forgot authority.

i smoke an ounce of chronic a week (on average) and have smoked daily for about 16 years. i can't say i've noticed any difference in my health or my mental state. my iq is still 420 and i fire up the neurons and synapsis on the regular!!!!!

agent420 wrote:i smoke an ounce of chronic a week (on average) and have smoked daily for about 16 years. i can't say i've noticed any difference in my health or my mental state. my iq is still 420 and i fire up the neurons and synapsis on the regular!!!!!

How did u manage that?