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Race or Religion?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:09 am
by ghostkilla43
ok well ive been wondering this for awhile.
do u think being Judeism(sp?) is a race or religion?
now people will say religion usally but think about it.
people say "oh u look jewish. well how can u say somone looks like a religion.
oh that person looks christain, or looks like this ect ect.
also the sterotype "look" of a jewish person,(nose hair voice ect) once again how can you look like a religion?
so i was just wondering, what is ur opinion?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:13 am
by Jstar1
yeah race is a likely factor, I doubt that there are white muslims or taoist arabs out there

Re: Race or Religion?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:13 am
by devilti
ghostkilla43 wrote:ok well ive been wondering this for awhile.
do u think being Judeism(sp?) is a race or religion?
now people will say religion usally but think about it.
people say "oh u look jewish. well how can u say somone looks like a religion.
oh that person looks christain, or looks like this ect ect.
also the sterotype "look" of a jewish person,(nose hair voice ect) once again how can you look like a religion?
so i was just wondering, what is ur opinion?


judaism.
jews r the "chosen" ppl if i remember correctly.
judaism is a religion but if some1 says ur jewish then thats a race.
hope taht clearifies

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:17 am
by Reise
Never heard anyone say "Oh you look Christian" but you can thank a specific group of Judaism for the stereotype "Jew" look. I can't remember what the group was called but they're the ones that all have the same things about them like the curly sideburns and stuff, and they're really mega religious.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:23 am
by Vandall
Reise wrote:Never heard anyone say "Oh you look Christian" but you can thank a specific group of Judaism for the stereotype "Jew" look. I can't remember what the group was called but they're the ones that all have the same things about them like the curly sideburns and stuff, and they're really mega religious.

you're referring to the Hasidim I believe.
it's just a stereotype of jews; saying that they look european, or something to that extent.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:20 am
by Reise
Vandall wrote:
Reise wrote:Never heard anyone say "Oh you look Christian" but you can thank a specific group of Judaism for the stereotype "Jew" look. I can't remember what the group was called but they're the ones that all have the same things about them like the curly sideburns and stuff, and they're really mega religious.

you're referring to the Hasidim I believe.
it's just a stereotype of jews; saying that they look european, or something to that extent.


Yeah it was called something like that.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:23 am
by devilti
ppl stereotype jews (bottom line)

mostly coz they luv money? and control banks?
not sure

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:27 am
by XemnasXD
religion. I know a couple of Black Jews.

@jstar- And i know a White Muslim....its not as uncommon as you think if religions proven one thing its that its capable of transcending all racial barriers...

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:28 am
by fena
Vandall wrote:
Reise wrote:Never heard anyone say "Oh you look Christian" but you can thank a specific group of Judaism for the stereotype "Jew" look. I can't remember what the group was called but they're the ones that all have the same things about them like the curly sideburns and stuff, and they're really mega religious.

you're referring to the Hasidim I believe.
it's just a stereotype of jews; saying that they look european, or something to that extent.

Yeah, they're called Hasidic Jews. Those curly sideburns you're talking about are called payos. We're reading a book about them in English.

Referring back to the original question, if you talk specifically about "Judaism," you're talking about the religion; if you call someone Jewish, you could either be referring to race or religion, or both.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:31 am
by Reise
Well it all falls under the same ignorance factor as saying "people from X nation are gay" is racism. Nationality isn't race and neither is religious belief.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:20 am
by JacksColon
First of all, the premise is acutally incorrect. You should have used ethnicity, since "race" is a social construct used to differentiate based on things such as skin color whereas ethnicity takes more things into account. Race implies that humans are actually physically different based on physical features, which is not true...ethnicity takes into account more variables....

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:31 am
by Grimm-.-
Jstar1 wrote:yeah race is a likely factor, I doubt that there are white muslims or taoist arabs out there


O_o
I am a white muslim
...Well 50%^^

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:04 pm
by Swindler
damn... hard question.. cant answer that :S

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:45 pm
by Sir_Nicolas
I like polls :D. they are just fun

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:52 pm
by [SD]Frites
I can't see if someone is a Jew or not. but ofcourse jews are no race. Hitler called them a race but don't listen to hitler.

Btw you can see if someone is muslim or not.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:59 pm
by 0l3n
[SD]Frites wrote:I can't see if someone is a Jew or not. but ofcourse jews are no race. Hitler called them a race but don't listen to hitler.

Btw you can see if someone is muslim or not.


Done be so sure, you wouldnt know I was a muslim.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:53 pm
by Swindler
0l3n wrote:
[SD]Frites wrote:I can't see if someone is a Jew or not. but ofcourse jews are no race. Hitler called them a race but don't listen to hitler.

Btw you can see if someone is muslim or not.


Done be so sure, you wouldnt know I was a muslim.


yeah i have a friend that is muslim, if i hadnt knowed him i should never guees that he was muslim.. He looks like he swedish but he isnt

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:05 pm
by AnemuS
ill just vote :)
Hasidim are the "stranges jews" cause i dont know what are they exist for? i mean they try to dennie that holocaust has happened , well they could believe in god more than everybody, but they are aswell a cause for wars..in 3 words- i dislike them.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:57 pm
by Rainigul
The jews are a race, the jewish are a religion.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:00 pm
by XemnasXD
[SD]Rainigul wrote:The jews are a race, the jewish are a religion.



Thats like saying muslims are a race, Islam is the religion...


Jews are just practitioners of The Jewish faith....You can have black, white, hispanic, and asian Jews as long as they follow the jewish faith...

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:00 pm
by Reise
Jews are not a race. Jews can be white, black, hispanic, whatever. Jew is a name for people who are Jewish, by practicing their religion Judaism. Just like people who follow Islam are Islamic, or Christianity are Christians and other stuff.

Stop copying me Xemnas!

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:02 pm
by Rainigul
XemnasXD wrote:
[SD]Rainigul wrote:The jews are a race, the jewish are a religion.



Thats like saying muslims are a race, Islam is the religion...


They're the ones who call themselves a race, so let them be a race.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:41 pm
by XemnasXD
[SD]Rainigul wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
[SD]Rainigul wrote:The jews are a race, the jewish are a religion.



Thats like saying muslims are a race, Islam is the religion...


They're the ones who call themselves a race, so let them be a race.


i know a white muslim who still considers himself to be white...your generalizing...


@Reise :twisted:

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:14 am
by Deathsythe
I think it's more of a religion that a race, unlike many of my friends, who consider me as "The Jew", in a good way. You couldn't really tell that I'm Jewish by looking at me, I look like any other white dude, but for some reason when ppl find out I'm Jewish all of a sudden I have a big nose, which I don't, and i get the "Oh, your dad must own the bank" alot. And its funny when we talk about Jews in class or the word "Jew" comes up some ppl just turn and look at me.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:19 am
by Rainigul
XemnasXD wrote:
[SD]Rainigul wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
[SD]Rainigul wrote:The jews are a race, the jewish are a religion.



Thats like saying muslims are a race, Islam is the religion...


They're the ones who call themselves a race, so let them be a race.


i know a white muslim who still considers himself to be white...your generalizing...


@Reise :twisted:


... I'm talking about jewish people, not muslims.