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Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:35 pm**

Anyone out there a Buddhist. I try to practice it but i have trouble cause im impatient, oversensitive, and hold onto grudges. But i try. I meditate at least 1 hour a day but i still eat meat. >> beef and chicken are hard to give up.

So if your a Buddhist how do you practice, where do you struggle. Are there things you don't believe in that part of the Buddhist faith etc. I just wanna hear from some other out there.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:52 pm**

What is it that budhist actually do?

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:10 pm**

Appreciate the value and simplicity of life. Respect the flow of karma on our way to seeking enlightenment. Try to increase the positivity in the world around us (basically respecting karma). But most importantly realize and try to follow the 4 truths.
-Existence is suffering
-Suffering is caused by desire
-Eliminate desire=eliminate suffering
-Eliminate desire by following the 8 fold path

Thats basically it. You don't have to complete the 8 fold path the important thing is that you attempt. Some ppl believe enlightenment can be reached in 1 lifetime others think several....>> im trying to do it in one.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:14 pm**

XemnasXD wrote:-Existence is suffering
-Suffering is caused by desire
-Eliminate desire=eliminate suffering
-Eliminate desire by following the 8 fold path

So you're emo

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:16 pm**

XemnasXD wrote:Appreciate the value and simplicity of life. Respect the flow of karma on our way to seeking enlightenment. Try to increase the positivity in the world around us (basically respecting karma). But most importantly realize and try to follow the 4 truths.
-Existence is suffering
-Suffering is caused by desire
-Eliminate desire=eliminate suffering
-Eliminate desire by following the 8 fold path

Thats basically it. You don't have to complete the 8 fold path the important thing is that you attempt. Some ppl believe enlightenment can be reached in 1 lifetime others think several....>> im trying to do it in one.

what school of buddhism, Zen?

HES NOT EMO!
just google buddhism
and if that doesnt work
wiki it

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:17 pm**

TwelveEleven wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:-Existence is suffering
-Suffering is caused by desire
-Eliminate desire=eliminate suffering
-Eliminate desire by following the 8 fold path

So you're emo

dude, you're an ignorant.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:20 pm**

-Evan wrote:
TwelveEleven wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:-Existence is suffering
-Suffering is caused by desire
-Eliminate desire=eliminate suffering
-Eliminate desire by following the 8 fold path

So you're emo

dude, you're an ignorant.

Or you are.. Emos think of life like that too right? So why live your life if you think it's suffering? For a greater purpose?

I'm not trying to put you people in a lil box or anything.. But to me saying life is sufering is like saying you're emo..

Respecting life is totally different from saying it's suffering.. Even if you THINK/are CONVINCED it's suffering it might not be for other people.. So by saying i'm ignorant because I disagree with something is being ignorant yourself..

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:20 pm**

My dad's Buddhist, he brought me to a temple in town a couple times and I spoke to a monk, read a bunch of books.

I'm in the spiritual process of converting, but as a person i'm not ready yet. My values are there, but my personality is not...yet.

And Buddhism isn't about eating vegetables or not swearing. As Buddha said it himself, no one can teach you the path to enlightenment, only tell you his and you have to find your own way.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:22 pm**

I think to truly follow buddhism you have to throw on an orange toga and hang around a temple all day meditating. Totally ditch everything you own and want and just sit around living.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:22 pm**

About the meat part, I am a Buddhist myself but I eat meat lol, I'm not a monk after all. However, I don't eat beef as my god is "Guan yin".

What I think about Buddhism is that they focus on the afterlife. All your actions will affect your afterlife, aka Karma.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:23 pm**

BakaFish wrote:About the meat part, I am a Buddhist myself but I eat meat lol, I'm not a monk after all. However, I don't eat beef as my god is "Guan yin".

What I think about Buddhism is that they focus on the afterlife. All your actions will affect your afterlife, aka Karma.

lol. Are you a 14 year old boy that learned about buddhism from online articles?

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:25 pm**

dom wrote:My dad's Buddhist, he brought me to a temple in town a couple times and I spoke to a monk, read a bunch of books.

I'm in the spiritual process of converting, but as a person i'm not ready yet. My values are there, but my personality is not...yet.

And Buddhism isn't about eating vegetables or not swearing. As Buddha said it himself, no one can teach you the path to enlightenment, only tell you his and you have to find your own way.

Aye so I could be a buddhist and not think life is suffering and I can eat meat?

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:26 pm**

Well sorry for not being religious.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:27 pm**

TwelveEleven wrote:
dom wrote:My dad's Buddhist, he brought me to a temple in town a couple times and I spoke to a monk, read a bunch of books.

I'm in the spiritual process of converting, but as a person i'm not ready yet. My values are there, but my personality is not...yet.

And Buddhism isn't about eating vegetables or not swearing. As Buddha said it himself, no one can teach you the path to enlightenment, only tell you his and you have to find your own way.

Aye so I could be a buddhist and not think life is suffering and I can eat meat?

You would have to understand the concept of life's eternal suffering and believe that your goal in life is to escape it. Furthermore, you have to understand why meat is not normally eaten and accept the consequences.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:27 pm**

im goin to sleep soon, so try to keep this clean. i know yall posting good
stuff now, but this is for the posts to come <_<.

anyways, im not a buddhist, but ive been to bangkok, thailand. in thailand,
95% of all people is buddhist. the one thing that really caught my eye was,
that they respect the buddha so much that they have gold or gold
plated buddha statues all over the cities. here in the netherlands, idk how
long a statue like that would keep its gold shine before someone got his van
next to it n took it.

meh. really tired now. ima get like 4,5 hours of sleep before work tomorrow

gnight all. i might post some more experiences of what ive seen from buddhists
tomorrow

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:30 pm**

cin wrote:im goin to sleep soon, so try to keep this clean. i know yall posting good
stuff now, but this is for the posts to come <_<.

anyways, im not a buddhist, but ive been to bangkok, thailand. in thailand,
95% of all people is buddhist. the one thing that really caught my eye was,
that they respect the buddha so much that they have gold or gold
plated buddha statues all over the cities. here in the netherlands, idk how
long a statue like that would keep its gold shine before someone got his van
next to it n took it.

meh. really tired now. ima get like 4,5 hours of sleep before work tomorrow

gnight all. i might post some more experiences of what ive seen from buddhists
tomorrow

In Thailand they're mostly Theravada. If you were to convert you would be Mahayana.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:32 pm**

Everything I know about buddhism comes from the movie Ong Bak the Thai Warrior.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:35 pm**

Reise wrote:Everything I know about buddhism comes from the movie Ong Bak the Thai Warrior.

You should check out Jet Li's movie where he plays Fong Sai Yuk, I forgot the name of the movie though.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:37 pm**

This topic reminds me of a great book, Harp of Burma. I'm Buddhist but I've never really looked up on the details. I just pray sometimes when I feel like it.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:48 pm**

hmm but they who are real Buddhist they cant have a women right ?! LOL

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:50 pm**

dom wrote:
TwelveEleven wrote:
dom wrote:My dad's Buddhist, he brought me to a temple in town a couple times and I spoke to a monk, read a bunch of books.

I'm in the spiritual process of converting, but as a person i'm not ready yet. My values are there, but my personality is not...yet.

And Buddhism isn't about eating vegetables or not swearing. As Buddha said it himself, no one can teach you the path to enlightenment, only tell you his and you have to find your own way.

Aye so I could be a buddhist and not think life is suffering and I can eat meat?

You would have to understand the concept of life's eternal suffering and believe that your goal in life is to escape it. Furthermore, you have to understand why meat is not normally eaten and accept the consequences.

Could you (try to)explain it to me?

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:51 pm**

TwelveEleven wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:-Existence is suffering
-Suffering is caused by desire
-Eliminate desire=eliminate suffering
-Eliminate desire by following the 8 fold path

So you're emo

How can I explain this. All things come from the oversoul, its like all things that ever existed and will exist. It is eternal and instant all at once if you can wrap your mind around it. All things come and must return to it. So while we are given life and form this is actually a perversion of our natural state, but a necessary perversion. During our life we gain memories and knowledge which rejoins the oversoul when we die causing it to grow and spreading life. But like i said this life that we live is not our true state so we must overcome it.

To do that we must overcome all things of this saha world. Saha would be like say a dream world but it literally means "rosebush like", something that is beautiful to observe but its thorns will harm those who try to grasp it to tightly. Desire is the tie that binds us to this world. The desire to live the desire to die the desire to eat the desire to love and laugh etc. This is not to say life shouldn't be lived to the fullest because the Buddha himself realized that denying himself all the pleasures of life was just as bad as over-indulging in them. Moderation, the middle-way is the key.

that is my interpretation as of now. People evolve and grow and change everyday so hopefully i'll get a better grasp of it all sooner or later. Wikipedia explains the 4 truths better heres what they say

Wikipedia wrote: 1. The Nature of Dukkha: All life is suffering. This is the noble truth of "dukkha": the word "Dukkha" is usually translated as "suffering" in English. Birth is dukkha, aging is dukkha, sickness is dukkha, death is dukkha; union with what is displeasing is dukkha; separation from what is pleasing is dukkha; not to get what one wants is dukkha; to get what one does not want is dukkha; in brief, the five aggregates subject to clinging are dukkha. This first Noble Truth reflects on the nature of suffering. It comments on types of suffering, identifying each type in turn. A more accurate simplification of this truth is "Life is full of suffering."
2. The Origin of Dukkha (Samudaya): Suffering is caused by desire. This is the noble truth of the origin of dukkha: It is craving which leads to renewed existence, accompanied by delight and lust; that is, craving for sensual pleasures, craving for existence, craving for extermination. The second Noble Truth reflects on the sources of suffering (Dukkha.) Put very simply, it states that suffering results from expectations linked to our desires, and our attachment to those desires themselves.
3. The Cessation of Dukkha (Nirodha): To eliminate suffering, eliminate desire. This is the noble truth of the cessation of dukkha: It is the remainderless fading away and cessation of that same craving, the giving up and relinquishing of it, freedom from it, and non-reliance on it. The third Noble Truth reflects on the belief that suffering can be eliminated. It asserts that it can be done, and that it has been done.
4. The Way Leading to the Cessation of Dukkha (Magga): To eliminate desire follow the Eightfold Path. This is the noble truth of the way leading to the cessation of Dukkha: It is the Noble Eightfold Path; that is, right view, right intention, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration. [7][9]

And thinking that being a Buddhist means giving up everything and living in the middle of nowhere is a misunderstanding. Thats just the way some ppl choose to practice the teachings of the Buddha. As long as you follow the 4 truths and the 8 fold path you are a Buddhist imo.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:17 pm**

TwelveEleven wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:-Existence is suffering
-Suffering is caused by desire
-Eliminate desire=eliminate suffering
-Eliminate desire by following the 8 fold path

So you're emo

Sorry, but that was an extremly stupid remark and was uncalled for.

Buddists don't' cut themselves and year eye shadow.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:39 pm**

If you study the bodhisattvas, you understand that the path to enlightenment is varied and open to thieves, prostitutes and beggars as it is to kings and monks.

I recommend "How to See Yourself as You Really Are" by His Holiness the Dalai Lama for an introduction to the practical application of Buddhist thought.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:40 pm**

gl on ur path to enlightenment.

Posted: **Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:22 am**

dom wrote:
Reise wrote:Everything I know about buddhism comes from the movie Ong Bak the Thai Warrior.

You should check out Jet Li's movie where he plays Fong Sai Yuk, I forgot the name of the movie though.

I thought it was also called Fong Sai Yuk (checked on wiki its aka The Legend). Love the bit when he says that his name was Wong..... Jin ^_^. Anyway I digress.

Emo's are people who hates themselves (pop culture), as oppose to people with borderline personality. So its not comparable to religion of any sort.

@All the buddhist here, gl as well to your path to enlightenment.

Posted: **Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:30 am**

In the only thing I like buddha is in the following video, and its not exactly buddha what I like, if you understand me..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRnJBrR96qQ

Posted: **Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:25 am**

non ego man wrote:If you study the bodhisattvas, you understand that the path to enlightenment is varied and open to thieves, prostitutes and beggars as it is to kings and monks.

I recommend "How to See Yourself as You Really Are" by His Holiness the Dalai Lama for an introduction to the practical application of Buddhist thought.

+1

Posted: **Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:25 am**

non ego man wrote:If you study the bodhisattvas, you understand that the path to enlightenment is varied and open to thieves, prostitutes and beggars as it is to kings and monks.

I recommend "How to See Yourself as You Really Are" by His Holiness the Dalai Lama for an introduction to the practical application of Buddhist thought.

>> never read anything by the Dalai Lama before (didn't even know he wrote books) but i'll look into them. I because Buddhism is a lifestyle its alot harder to take in and understand even the basic concepts because while at its core the teachings are the same how you go about learning them is completely different for each individual.

Posted: **Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:57 am**

Any atheists among the group?

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None? Aww.

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