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Do you guys think it is possible? I remember an old telekineses thread that went around the OTL and yeah that looked a little far out, but I think this might actually be possible for the majority of people.

I believe the theory is right that this is actually in our minds, so why not have a say in it?

I'm gonna try at least...I have always wanted to be able to control a personal reality. Simply closing my eyes and creating works for me, but I am not nearly as in tune with my subconscious as I am when I am dreaming therefore I lose focus in a couple minutes.

If you mastered the art of dream control, what would you use it for?

I think that when I am satisfied I would merely extend my dreams... except for the creepy ones but then again why should it be creepy its my own thoughts lol

And I believe that with this control if I say had a bad day, Imagine the opportunity of being able to tap into a personal reality, without consequences for your actions, the ability to explore, absence of death and freedom to do whatever you want for as long as you wish....



ALSO: thought id add this link to prevent another thread:

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the future...mind control games....Just wow I can't wait it is like the world is suddenly shifting to maximizing use of the mind..one of our most powerful tools..amidst everything going on in the world


Post your thoughts....I am interested to see them

P.S. GET stumble tool bar....I can surf the web for such a longgg time without getting bored anymore

Interesting.
Seems possible to me. I've realized i was dreaming several times before, usually happens to me when i wake up in the morning right after a dream and i stay in bed and shut my eyes right away, sometimes it keeps on going.

its been posted b4 but its styll i nice find it seems possible that u would be able to control ur dreams

i purposely extend my dreams.. it feels so gooooood . No more details now .

Ya, it has happened to me a few times.
Generally when I was a little child and I had a scary dream I usually ended it right away. Now when Im older, and Im "Lucid Dreaming", I mostly dream about places, things I always wanted to have and stuff.
But it doesnt happen really often, actually, quite rare, but its still a perfect way to start your day

that actually happened to me last night...

i was chilling at a friends house (wasnt really his house, but it was in my dream), then i did a few things, then stumbled out the door and onto the ground, while on the ground i was like... wtf this shit never happens to me, i must be dreaming, then i realized i was. after that the dream continued as i made myself teleport back to my house (because lying on the ground not being able to move was gay) then the dream kept going as my friend burst through my front door asking me for 145 dollars. interesting.

i woke up and told my gf about it. she always laughs at me when i wake up and ask her questions like "is shane here" when it came out of my dream.

anyways, im done rambling now. peace out homies.

last night i had a dream, i know i had a dream but now i cant remember any of it lol

Of course it works.

Go to LD4all, great community for it there.

Personally, MILD worked for me, but I have a strong imagination. If MILD doesn't work for you in the first week, try WBTB. NEVER lose hope, as soon as you start thinking of lucid dreaming being difficult, it becomes much harder than it is to do other wise.

For anyone who can get a good, very vivid lucid dream going, try flying. At first, it probably won't be vivid enough that you can think of HOW to fly, just think "fly, fly, fly, fly, fly..." and try to control where you go. I personally hover a few inches off the ground, and go at about running speed, but it feels so awesome. it's like the wind you get from riding a bike, combined with a tingling sensation, without any effort at all to move.

Little advice on how to have a lucid dream:

1- When you're awake, occasionally try a few triggers. Two good ones, playing with lightswitches (they almost never work like they should in dreams), and pinching your nose shut and trying to breathe through it. For lightswitches, just flip the switch on and off a few times whenever you wake up, or you think you might be in a dream. Also try to control the lights in your mind (this works better if you have dimmer switches in your home, because you get used to seeing light between bright and off), if that works you're almost surely in a lucid dream

For the nose thing, whenever you wake up, or do something you don't do every day, pinch your nose and try to breathe through it. In real life, of course, you can't move any air, but in dreams you almost always can breathe through it like normal. Just keep doing it, eventually you'll try it in a dream and go lucid

2- MILD. Basically, when you go to sleep, think "I'm going to have a dream tonight. It will be lucid... " over and over again. Maybe even say it. Because dreams are mostly based in your subconscious, if you think you will have a lucid dream, your chances are MUCH BETTER at actually having one.

3- Again, it's all in your head. If you begin to think of having a lucid dream as hard or impossible, it will become hard or impossible. Also, be very careful with lucid dreaming, it can screw you up. If you have any real control over your lucid dreams (which is very easy, I was able to control lights with my mind within a minute on my first LD), and you see something scary, and think "this is scary", or you get bored, and ask to see your darkest fear, things will get scary, and you will see your darkest fear. I have read some positively horrifying things out of lucid dreams- stuff that would never make it into ANY movie theatre, and remember, a good lucid dream will be extremely vivid, to the point where it's like life. You will feel like you are living inside of a nightmare, and that isn't really far off. If you do decide to try something like this, at least sleep with plastic sheets

if anyone wants more advice, feel free to ask. Also, you might try getting some B12 supplements, taking B12 hasn't really been scientifically shown to increase dream vividness or lucidity, but it's well know that it is. You can try the same thing with smoking or nicotine patches, although there's a good chance of getting addicted there, so be careful. I do have a friend that would use nicotine patches only every few nights, and it did help his dreaming, and I don't think he ever got addicted, but still, it is a slippery slope.

I've also had a friend advise me to "not have so much sugar before bed" a few times after I've had really weird dreams, I don't know if it's accurate (all I had was a couple of bottles of koolaid), but it's worth a shot if you aren't on a diet. Or if you are, to just put off your sugary snacks to just before you go to sleep.

Also, AVOID alchohol and antidepressents, as they can inhibit REM sleep, and thus your ability to dream for longer amount of time, more vivid and lucid.

If anyone has more questions, feel free to ask Remember, Lucid Dreaming isn't new-age, "OMFG I CAN BEND THE PLANE OF REALITY WITH THE POWER OF THOUGHT" shit, it's just taking control of part of your mind you hadn't really used before. Lucid Dreaming is an amazing experience. If you like movies, video games, books, TV shows (especially anime, I've heard of a lot of awesome anime dreams), lucid dreaming basically allows you to live inside of that if you try hard enough. Another huge benefit is that even if you don't LD, trying most lucid dreaming techniques will increase your DR (Dream Recall, how likely you are to remember your dreams after you wake up), which is still fun since you get weird stories to tell people.

And I believe that with this control if I say had a bad day, Imagine the opportunity of being able to tap into a personal reality, without consequences for your actions, the ability to explore, absence of death and freedom to do whatever you want for as long as you wish....

Also, a bit of advice, you do need to take lucid dreaming a bit non-seriously. Imagine all those people you've heard about getting addicted to video games, which are still very unrealistic, and compare that to having your own personal utopia of a reality. It's rare, given that not many people can LD consistently, but getting addicted to it isn't unheard of. If you start sleeping more, going to sleep early hoping for a lucid dream, or disliking real life in favor of LDs, you should probably take a break or see a shrink. Remember, lucid dreaming is great, but you can't LD if you're dead

That said, I also see some misconceptions in here about lengthening dreams- in general, no. Dreams usually last less than five minutes, even when they're lucid. Dreams that go on longer than 30 (real) minutes are basically unheard of. Almost all dreams you can actually remember, and especially any lucid dream will be during the REM stage of sleep, which is only about an hour to two hours per night, and heavily divided. Typically, you will have very short REM periods at first, and they get longer throughout the night until you wake up. This is why you tend to wake up later in the night from nightmares, and also one reason why WBTB works.

Also, check out Wikibooks- they have a good, rather complete guide that I really recommend. As always, if you don't know what I'm talking about, google it you freakin' noob

thank you very much feba!

cant wait to master this

hmmm
it would be interesting to find out what my deepest fear is, i personally don't know...you mean this that while lucid dreaming if advanced enough you can connect and ask questions to your subconscious? if so wow thats amazing

_wolf_ wrote:it would be interesting to find out what my deepest fear is, i personally don't know...you mean this that while lucid dreaming if advanced enough you can connect and ask questions to your subconscious? if so wow thats amazing

It depends on who you ask, but the answer is basically yes.

It isn't really a matter of advancedednessity from what I've seen so much as luck or emotions. It's something you can't really manipulate from what I've seen, but a lot of people call it SC or SG- Subconcious or Spirit Guide respectively.

Basically, sometimes in a dream you will talk to someone, and that person is usually more intelligent than the other characters in your dream. You usually can't puppeteer them like you can others like I've heard.

You can talk to them, and they will actually respond intelligently, give advice, etc. I think I met mine in my first LD, there were these shadowy figures that were watching me out of doorways, and I think I asked if he was my SG or not and he said "no", but I didn't write it down in a journal then, or keep any sort of record, so I can't remember accurately now . Keeping a journal is another great way to improve your DR, write down whatever you heard, saw, smelled, tasted, etc. ASAP after you wake up, and keep thinking about it that day. Remember, dreams are basically useless apart from entertainment, so the brain will forget them quickly if you don't train yourself to focus on them somewhat.

To your brain, that restaurant on the offramp 30 minutes away on the way to the store you only visit twice a year is far more important than dreams, which is why DR is so bad for a lot of people