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gayness of brandname computers

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:54 am
by [SD]happynoobing
THEY ARE GAY!

i have a sony desktop, and today i decided to do a major upgrade (vid card, RAM, motherboard---b/c i want PCI-E and DDR2 slots, power supply---b/c new vid card would need a lot more power than the one i have now. anyway, i went to the store, and asked about the stuff, until i realized THE STANDARD POWER SUPPLY IS TOO BIG TO FIT! :banghead: sony decided to use a small case with a special small power supply so that i can't replace it with standard ones :x :x :x

then the motherboard space is also too small for standard ones, grrrr... but that doesn't matter b/c no new PSU = no new vid card = no new motherboard = no new RAM :cry:

now i've decided to wait till aug to build myself a brand new computer with leet vid card and at least 4 gig of RAM ^^

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:07 am
by Millenium
Hey buddy I'm with you ^^

I got a MDG Computer with integrated graphic card. I wanted a better graphic card but it didn't have any slot for it! Also now my 2 x 512 mb RAM refuses to work with each other :banghead:

Don't get a super good computer when you go into University though Happy, you'll find yourself engaged with MMO and other games when you're supposed to be studying :P

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:30 am
by Locketart
Yea, you really shoulda checked with us beforehand. Usually Prebuilt pc's are in small cases (mini ATX i think). You should just custom build a new PC altogether.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:53 am
by Brutish1
This is why noobs shouldn't be doing their own computer work.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:57 am
by Locketart
Um why do you need 4 gb of ram? Do you do video editing? I'd recommend building in september since Intel will cut it's prices again. =D

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:02 am
by TwelveEleven
If you need any help from us just ask ;). Also i had a dell so i know the feeling :(

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:06 am
by Priam
well dell isn't that bad, notebook-wise that is.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:20 am
by Brutish1
So you will be using a 64 bit OS then right. Otherwise the OS won't recognize more than 3.2 gig.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:37 pm
by MrJoey
I like my hp just fine. The case is also quite large, so I can upgrade in the near future if I want/need to.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:51 pm
by TwelveEleven
MrJoey wrote:I like my hp just fine. The case is also quite large, so I can upgrade in the near future if I want/need to.


I'd double check that, because my desktop dell was large too, but it still had a smaller psu and a smaller motherboard.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:32 pm
by MrJoey
I don't exactly carry a ruler in my room, so tell me what exactly would be considered "good" dimensions.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:39 pm
by [SD]Twysta
That sux man, my first computer was a Compaq, they also have their own sized hardware, impossible to add/replace hardware.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:05 pm
by Zypher
meh, i have a dell atm.

once i start working with my brother, ill be able to offered a good computer.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:51 pm
by PsYch008
one word... proprietary

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:55 pm
by Skitsefrenik
You bought a Sony >.>

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:08 pm
by Draquish
Skitsefrenik wrote:You bought a Sony >.>


I like my Sony! :(

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:18 pm
by PsYch008
[SD]draquish wrote:
Skitsefrenik wrote:You bought a Sony >.>


I like my Sony! :(



sonys are alright... but proprietary as shit.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:44 pm
by [SD]happynoobing
Locketart wrote:Yea, you really shoulda checked with us beforehand.

i had it for more than 3 years :P

@greecemilly: i have my ways of multitasking :D (more like procrastination tho...)

as for the 4 gig of ram, i like 3D animation so it would be necessary. maybe i should've applied to an art school instead o.O

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:50 pm
by Skitsefrenik
my old compaq lasted me 8 years before it stopped co-operating with monitors >.>

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:01 pm
by dE4
I still dont understand why ppl buy premade pc's. It's so easy to put one together your self. Custom pc gives you much more room for tuning n upgrades. I'm a happy big tower owner myself :D Lian-Li PC75 ^^ filled beyond its limits xD Might extend it after this summer(cut other Li in half n put it on top) :]
I've never had brandnamed pc o.0

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:25 pm
by [SD]happynoobing
dE4 wrote:I still dont understand why ppl buy premade pc's. It's so easy to put one together your self. Custom pc gives you much more room for tuning n upgrades. I'm a happy big tower owner myself :D Lian-Li PC75 ^^ filled beyond its limits xD Might extend it after this summer(cut other Li in half n put it on top) :]
I've never had brandnamed pc o.0

we were all computer newbs once :roll:

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:43 pm
by EllisD
PsYch008 wrote:one word... proprietary


+123413

They make custom parts of a certain size, so you cant just go and buy any part off the shelf and upgrade. They make you do it thru the company and they charge you a ton for it. Anything can be like this. Hard drives with skewed mounting points and that are slightly wider than the standard drive bay, PSU's smaller than the standard ATX PSU's, Video cards with special brackets, motherboards with no expansion slots, etc.

These PC's are perfectly fine if you dont wish to mess with it, or need one for basic reasons.

If you do want to be able to upgrade when the time comes, then definetly build one yourself. There are plenty of people that can help.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:34 pm
by CrimsonNuker
Get a new ownage looking case.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:01 pm
by dom
Brutish1 wrote:This is why noobs shouldn't be doing their own computer work.


concur - if you're buying a motherboard and powersupply you should get a case too

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:00 pm
by [SD]happynoobing
dom wrote:
Brutish1 wrote:This is why noobs shouldn't be doing their own computer work.


concur - if you're buying a motherboard and powersupply you should get a case too

usually it's the other way around, u buy a case and it comes with a psu.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:07 pm
by PsYch008
[SD]happynoobing wrote:
dom wrote:
Brutish1 wrote:This is why noobs shouldn't be doing their own computer work.


concur - if you're buying a motherboard and powersupply you should get a case too

usually it's the other way around, u buy a case and it comes with a psu.


not all the time.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:08 pm
by EllisD
[SD]happynoobing wrote:
dom wrote:
Brutish1 wrote:This is why noobs shouldn't be doing their own computer work.


concur - if you're buying a motherboard and powersupply you should get a case too

usually it's the other way around, u buy a case and it comes with a psu.


The PSU's that are bundled with most cases are usually junk. You are far better off saving a few bucks on the case by trying to get it without a PSU and put the money you save towards a power supply that will do the job you need it to do. If you want a newer graphics card, then a no-name 400-450w PSU will end up as nothing more than a paper weight when you have to replace it.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:25 pm
by [SD]happynoobing
EllisD wrote:
[SD]happynoobing wrote:
dom wrote:
Brutish1 wrote:This is why noobs shouldn't be doing their own computer work.


concur - if you're buying a motherboard and powersupply you should get a case too

usually it's the other way around, u buy a case and it comes with a psu.


The PSU's that are bundled with most cases are usually junk. You are far better off saving a few bucks on the case by trying to get it without a PSU and put the money you save towards a power supply that will do the job you need it to do. If you want a newer graphics card, then a no-name 400-450w PSU will end up as nothing more than a paper weight when you have to replace it.

well i know a case that comes with a pretty decent 600W PSU, and it's very quiet.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:34 pm
by Itonami
Alienware ftw. :)

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:46 pm
by [SD]Master_Wong
build your own

alienware, dell, sony all the big names give you something that looks flashy but is useless alienware not soo much but they stil do the same sorta


build your own


my dream comp will cost £100,000 and will be minted shite loads of ram (of you need bios chips for every 4gb right?) and all the other shit shame i dont have that money but i bet a brandname wont make something that powerful

just imagine playing the most demanding games in highest detail no lag or stickynes