Trick, Trick!

fena · Post by **fena** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:48 am

- Thread Reopened -
Only because Exality wants to share his innermost feelings with the rest of you guys.

Thanks to Exality, Blade__NZ for helping me.

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:50 am

BMX! and i know a few things!

fena · Post by **fena** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:51 am

Yeahh, that's what I thought they were called. BMX Bikes. But then, I thought BMX was a brand?

If you know a few things, please, please do share.

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:53 am

FenaCorp wrote:Yeahh, that's what I thought they were called. BMX Bikes. But then, I thought BMX was a brand?

If you know a few things, please, please do share.

well what can you do already...and what is the bike model so i know how heavy and such it is

Blade__NZ · Post by **Blade__NZ** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:00 am

Firstly what kind of "trick bike" are u talking about

Your options are.

A. Mountain Trials Bike (generally a 24" wheel and front disc break and sometimes have no seat at all)

B. "BMX" style bike (20" wheels unless its a larger racing bmx with 24" wheels which wouldnt be classed as a trick bike)

Ive had alot to do with bikes im not into Trials or StreetBmx myself but into Cross country MTB and Road Cycling.

Check out MTBUK (MountainBike uk) Magazines and website they have alot of trials info etc http://www.mbuk.com/

My Bikes:
Avanti Hammer '05 Lightweight XC [XT/Lx drivechain] (New Zealand company)
Trek 1500 '06 Road bike [Full Ultegra]

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:02 am

Blade__NZ wrote:Firstly what kind of "trick bike" are u talking about
Your options are.

A. Mountain Trials Bike (generally a 24" wheel and front disc break and sometimes have no seat at all)

^^^^^ that is a cruiser(racing bike) not a mtn bike^^^^^^

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fena · Post by **fena** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:05 am

exality wrote:
FenaCorp wrote:Yeahh, that's what I thought they were called. BMX Bikes. But then, I thought BMX was a brand?

If you know a few things, please, please do share.

well what can you do already...and what is the bike model so i know how heavy and such it is

http://www.mongoose.com/bikes/detail_us ... brandID=71

That's my Bike. Or close to it, anyways. I don't know the exact model, TBH... I bought it at Academy, and I just wheeled the bike out with my Dad - it came with this instruction packet, but I don't know where my Dad put it.

@ Blade_NZ, it's the second type.
@ Hershey, thanks for the link. I'm reading it now.

Looks really interesting.

I'm going off to bed, guys. If you know anything, please post it here. I really appreciate the help that you're giving me.

If you could start with the BASICS, that'd be good, since with all my previuos bikes, I used them more for... well, biking.

Blade__NZ · Post by **Blade__NZ** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:08 am

exality wrote:
Blade__NZ wrote:Firstly what kind of "trick bike" are u talking about
Your options are.

A. Mountain Trials Bike (generally a 24" wheel and front disc break and sometimes have no seat at all)
^^^^^ that is a cruiser(racing bike) not a mtn bike^^^^^^

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No this is a cruiser.

If you look closely at the trials mtb it has a front disc brake (bmx cruisers have no front brake at all) Also a trials frame is more... squashed at the back than a cruiser and also longer, and the chain ring and rear cassette are far too small for racing made for quick acceleration not speed.

Google Mountainbike Trials

youll see what i mean.

Note: i worked at a bike shop for 4 years

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:13 am

ok well the
Wheelie: while rolling pull up on the handle bars and lean all your weight tword the back of the bike
practice: start small, practice at diff speeds...then once you have the hang of it..try pulling the wheels up over an object like a curb.

endo (stoppie): depress the front brake and shift weight forward so the rear wheel comes off the ground
practice: (start at slow speeds so you dont go over the handle bars)practice with different ammounts of pressure on brakes and shifting more weight forward.

Extreme basics^^^
once you master these we will move on

fena · Post by **fena** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:17 am

exality wrote:ok well the
Wheelie: while rolling pull up on the handle bars and lean all your weight tword the back of the bike
practice: start small, practice at diff speeds...then once you have the hang of it..try pulling the wheels up over an object like a curb.

endo (stoppie): depress the front brake and shift weight forward so the rear wheel comes off the ground
practice: (start at slow speeds so you dont go over the handle bars)practice with different ammounts of pressure on brakes and shifting more weight forward.

Extreme basics^^^
once you master these we will move on

Ok, seriously, I gotta go right after this. But I want to practice this tomorrow, so I need to know.

About the Wheelie... do you pull on the handlebars up or anything? Because when I try to lift the front end up, I just like, pull on it, really hard, and the bike jumps up (the front part, anyways), like... 6 inches or something.

When you do a Wheelie, do you pull up on the handlebars... like, at all? Hard? What?

And how the hell do I lean back on the bike? Do I sit down, or stand up? Rofl, such a noob, I am. Yes.

The Endo... what the hell do you mean by the FRONT BREAK? And depress? Does that mean push?

Dude, like, yeah.

FenaCorp = dumbass bike n00b newb noob.
Uh huh. Start smaller, please.

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:22 am

FenaCorp wrote:
exality wrote:ok well the
Wheelie: while rolling pull up on the handle bars and lean all your weight tword the back of the bike
practice: start small, practice at diff speeds...then once you have the hang of it..try pulling the wheels up over an object like a curb.

endo (stoppie): depress the front brake and shift weight forward so the rear wheel comes off the ground
practice: (start at slow speeds so you dont go over the handle bars)practice with different ammounts of pressure on brakes and shifting more weight forward.

Extreme basics^^^
once you master these we will move on

Ok, seriously, I gotta go right after this. But I want to practice this tomorrow, so I need to know.

About the Wheelie... do you pull on the handlebars up or anything?
pull up on the handle bars and lean all your weight tword the back of the bike

Because when I try to lift the front end up, I just like, pull on it, really hard, and the bike jumps up (the front part, anyways), like... 6 inches or something. When you do a Wheelie, do you pull up on the handlebars... like, at all? Hard? What?
try different ammounts of force
And how the hell do I lean back on the bike? Do I sit down, or stand up? Rofl, such a noob, I am. Yes.
standing up on both tricks

The Endo... what the hell do you mean by the FRONT BREAK? And depress? Does that mean push?
there should be a brake on the left hand side of the hanlde bars that is the front one
depress-sqweese the brake handle

Dude, like, yeah.

FenaCorp = just needs some work
Uh huh. Start smaller, please.

Blade__NZ · Post by **Blade__NZ** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:25 am

I found a good video guide to get you started.

Heres one for some Flatland stuff (flat land = just that doing tricks on the flat with no obstacles)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkvwdM9X ... ed&search=

Allso with your wheelies,
The best way to master the wheelie is not to be pulling up on the bars at all, but through practice practice practice, Put in the burst of pedaling with your weight shifted back so the front end rises then keep your pedaling constant to keep it up.
Thats how i was taught, the easy way is to lift the front end and peddle yah butt off but you wont master it and be able to go long distance in a wheelie.
This will allso help you get to know the weight and balance of your bike for more difficult tricks.

Good luck

If you need any maintenance advice send me a pm.

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:28 am

not to contradickt you^^^^^ but the pedal wheelie was much harder 4 me 2 learn so i started him with a "normal" wheelie but i think im gunna go buy me a cheep ass bmx bike so i can stard doin this agiain...i was goin to join my friends family race team 3 summers ago but we moved 2 months b4 the season started

Blade__NZ · Post by **Blade__NZ** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:30 am

Yeah i admit its easier

One advantage learning how to do it without though is it easier to do it in combination with other tricks

(e.g. Endo into a wheelie)

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:32 am

Blade__NZ wrote:Yeah i admit its easier
One advantage learning how to do it without though is it easier to do it in combination with other tricks

(e.g. Endo into a wheelie)

hehe yes you have me there also!!! i like mtn biking these days!!! i have a kickass spot that i dont get kicked out of but there is a 65% chance of me dying...ill find some picks of this place 4 ya if u want

Blade__NZ · Post by **Blade__NZ** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:35 am

Sure why not ^_^

This is where i ride:
http://www.bikeparks.co.nz/

No chance in getting kicked out, have to pay to get in lol

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:36 am

Blade__NZ wrote:Sure why not ^_^

This is where i ride:
http://www.bikeparks.co.nz/

No chance in getting kicked out, have to pay to get in lol

http://content.answers.com/main/content ... s_park.jpg
hehe old ppl get pissed but w/e

Blade__NZ · Post by **Blade__NZ** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:38 am

Nice youd want some very aggressive suspension to be riding off some of those drops lol

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:11 am

Blade__NZ wrote:Nice youd want some very aggressive suspension to be riding off some of those drops lol

lol yes!!! but of course since i got rid of my bmx bike ive been riding my moms mtn bike with just front susp...hehe ya i have so much fun there!!! plus it just makes you want to try somthing even sicker when you hear kids saying whoah and giving you prais!!! ya i kinow i rox!! lol but tomorrow ima go to somplace and see what i can pickup for a new bike for dirt cheap!!!

Blade__NZ · Post by **Blade__NZ** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:16 am

Try get a GT or Specialized (brands) BMX if ur going second hand (for cheap) they dont age so much. But heck anything with 2 wheels connected by some metal will do

(No not a wheel chair o.o")

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:33 am

Blade__NZ wrote:Try get a GT or Specialized (brands) BMX if ur going second hand (for cheap) they dont age so much. But heck anything with 2 wheels connected by some metal will do (No not a wheel chair o.o")

DK FTW!!!! but i think i may end up at walmart lol! i think i want a mtn/trick bike!

Blade__NZ · Post by **Blade__NZ** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:18 am

Oh if your going MTN/Trick then go for a Trek for mountain or Specialized/Santa Cruz for trick.

Note: if you can afford SantaCruz you either already own 5 cars and 2 houses or you live in a carboard box just so you could afford one

SantaCruz frames = Pure sex

Edit: wow we totally hijacked this thread.

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:23 am

Blade__NZ wrote:Oh if your going MTN/Trick then go for a Trek for mountain or Specialized/Santa Cruz for trick.

Note: if you can afford SantaCruz you either already own 5 cars and 2 houses or you live in a carboard box just so you could afford one

SantaCruz frames = Pure sex

Edit: wow we totally hijacked this thread.

actually im goin to walmart and getting a "goose" b/c i only have like 130% to spend on this since i quit my job 2 weeks ago

Post by **Rainigul** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:24 am

I tried BMXing for like 6 mo's, but I was too weak to do it.

You have to be able to lift your body weight + the bikes, and BMX's are really heavy since they must be durable for all the bails you're gonna do.

http://bmxtrix.com

At least I think that's the site.

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:26 am

lol thats my prob but i have overcome....i just keep trying...and last i weighed my old bmx bike it was 60 lbs thus i had to lift around 180 lbs but momentum and leg muschels cut the total weight down to prlly 120 lbs

cin · Post by **cin** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:29 am

take the one from wallmart. its worth the money

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:30 am

cin wrote:take the one from wallmart. its worth the money

well here is what ive decided on
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product. ... 627-rLink5

Post by **Rainigul** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:38 am

exality wrote:
cin wrote:take the one from wallmart. its worth the money

well here is what ive decided on
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product. ... 627-rLink5

It's shit.

It's not worth it unless it's 250 bucks or more.

And I'm not kidding.

Although if you're not sure you want to bmx first, then I guess a cheaper one is fine. But you want a nice brand like Kink bike, they use nice materials for their bikes.
100 dollar bikes break on any serious bails.

exality · Post by **exality** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:40 am

[SD]Rainigul wrote:
exality wrote:
cin wrote:take the one from wallmart. its worth the money

well here is what ive decided on
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product. ... 627-rLink5

It's shit.

It's not worth it unless it's 250 bucks or more.

And I'm not kidding.

Although if you're not sure you want to bmx first, then I guess a cheaper one is fine. But you want a nice brand like Kink bike, they use nice materials for their bikes.
100 dollar bikes break on any serious bails.

lol i have only 130$ to spend!!! and i know good bikes..read the post^^^i had like 3 sponsored friends

and its always Dk bikes unless im poor! like i am right now so take ur falme and shove it!

LEARN TO READ THE WHOLE THREAD!

Blade__NZ · Post by **Blade__NZ** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:01 am

No offence exal but dont get that bike.

Get a hard tail. Cheap full suspensions like that will break in a week.

I worked at a summer camp last year in massachusetts as a mountain bike instructor they bought similar bikes (i almost cried) since i was instructor and mechanic all in one, i spent half the summer fixing the damn things and they wont be useable for another summer they are dead already. (and the classes where hardly profesional stuff this was mountain biking 101[beginners])

Hard tails for the same money = less moving part = less to go wrong = more money put into the important parts rather than rear suspension that wont work.

Conclusion get a hard tail for the same money itll last 3 times as long.

Happy riding