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incase u dont kno:
democrat=libral
republican=conservative
moderate=in between

which one is "there is only one will, mine."?

I'm communist =D

thats still around? lol

depends whos up in the social class right? if i am in the working class, i would want a democrat/liberal to be in power

if i am a leader, i will tell ppl to shove the constitution up ppl's arses

Well in Holland I am a liberal (VVD) but I wouldn't vote for the democrats in the USA, I don't really think they're all that liberal and some of their ideas sound like socialistic crap to me.

Edit,

User, FYI: A true liberal wouldn't do shit for the working class, whereas a socialist would.

republican!

and nice quote woutR, lol

woutR wrote:User, FYI: A true liberal wouldn't do shit for the working class, whereas a socialist would.

liberal is for democracy, a true conservative would be a fascist, sucks to be a citizen in a fascist state, i know, i played civilization 3

Well, I consider myself as a liberal, because in the end, it's all up to oneself. I'm sick of people blaiming society for X and Y.

user wrote:

woutR wrote:User, FYI: A true liberal wouldn't do shit for the working class, whereas a socialist would.

liberal is for democracy, a true conservative would be a fascist, sucks to be a citizen in a fascist state, i know, i played civilization 3

yes, but that still doesn't mean you should vote liberal if you're from the working class.

that means everyone that has a job and works would vote democratic? then how do we have a republican president


EDIT: I have to leave and go to the NHS (National Honor Society) Induction Ceremony since i was accpeted and i will be back on tomorrow to post some more stuff in here

Having a president be a member of a party other than democrat or republican would be a disaster in the US. It's hard enough when the House and Senate majorities are not of the same as the acting President. If someone affiliated with neither party was in office they would have no support, and nothing would get done.

Besides all the independant or 'green' canidates have been nut jobs (ex. Nader, and the big eared, funny talking guy whose name I can't remember right now).

Yeah, Nader's a total nutjob. Seatbelts suck. Ever been in a car accident, hells?

ThatOneMan3424 wrote:that means everyone that has a job and works would vote democratic? then how do we have a republican president


EDIT: I have to leave and go to the NHS (National Honor Society) Induction Ceremony since i was accpeted and i will be back on tomorrow to post some more stuff in here

If the democrats would be liberal( and from what I've read and seen, they're not as liberal as I like) then your conclusion, the bold part, would be exactly what I think is best.

Bakemaster wrote:Yeah, Nader's a total nutjob. Seatbelts suck. Ever been in a car accident, hells?

Yes, 2 years ago on thanksgiving. The SUV I was in rolled 3 times after sliding on black ice. I was not belted in. Nor was my dog. My wife was. The dog died, I was injured superficially, my wife was bruised. Lets just say I was REALLY REALLY REALLY lucky

I think wearing a sealt belt is unconstitutional, but since then I wear it every time I get in a car.

But what does advocacy of seat belts have to do with politics?

Bakemaster wrote:Yeah, Nader's a total nutjob. Seatbelts suck. Ever been in a car accident, hells?

At least he's persistent.

Wearing a seat belt is unconstitutional? I'm sorry, what? I'm not gonna cut you slack just cause I like you personally. If you want to step up and talk politics you're gonna need to bring your A-game, not some "oh lol u no wut I meant" bullshit. You can't remember the name of a man who took almost 20% of the popular vote in 1992 and don't even care enough to Google it, yet somehow you feel competent to weigh in on the subject? I don't know what to say.

ouch, maybe you could've cut him a tiny piece of slack

I'm on the right in dutch politics.

I don't even know what liberal or conservative means

I'm independent.

I am central in romanian politics

Bakemaster wrote:Wearing a seat belt is unconstitutional? I'm sorry, what? I'm not gonna cut you slack just cause I like you personally. If you want to step up and talk politics you're gonna need to bring your A-game, not some "oh lol u no wut I meant" bullshit. You can't remember the name of a man who took almost 20% of the popular vote in 1992 and don't even care enough to Google it, yet somehow you feel competent to weigh in on the subject? I don't know what to say.

Seatbelt laws can be considered unconstitutional because they are "victimless crimes." You not wearing a seatbelt doesn't harm anyone else directly, whereas there are other actions that do.

If you get in a crash in a car full of people, you not wearing your seatbelt and your body flying around the car can easily "harm" someone.

If you die or get seriously injured, your family + friends are victims and have to deal with your death.

libretarian FTW

Edit: Libretarian. not liberal. HUGE difference

durant wrote:

Bakemaster wrote:Wearing a seat belt is unconstitutional? I'm sorry, what? I'm not gonna cut you slack just cause I like you personally. If you want to step up and talk politics you're gonna need to bring your A-game, not some "oh lol u no wut I meant" bullshit. You can't remember the name of a man who took almost 20% of the popular vote in 1992 and don't even care enough to Google it, yet somehow you feel competent to weigh in on the subject? I don't know what to say.

Seatbelt laws can be considered unconstitutional because they are "victimless crimes." You not wearing a seatbelt doesn't harm anyone else directly, whereas there are other actions that do.

That's not the point. I know what he meant. I'm talking about what he said. Not the same thing, and that's a problem.

I find it foolish to identify with only one group; most who do don't think for themselves, they just take in what the party tells them to take in.

I'm independant.

Blackchocob0 wrote:I find it foolish to identify with only one group; most who do don't think for themselves, they just take in what the party tells them to take in.

I'm independant.

so u vote for Nader (spelling)....well that is if ur in the united states lol

Or I don't vote. By Independant I only mean that I don't identify with a single parties ideals. I have my own ideals. I may or may not agree with the person running under the Independant party identification.

got it