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Been a while since...
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:45 pm
by inky
...another PC build thread. My 2nd PC build for my cousin. I got some decent combo deals off newegg so the price is slightly inaccurate but please take a look at the build and let me know if and how you'd make changes to it for lower cost or better performance for a small price difference.
So far, there are no compatibility issues, AFAIK.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/alastorcrow/saved/4aliCase: Antec 900
CPU: i5 4670k 3.4GHz
Cooler: CM 212 EVO
Mobo: MSI Z87-G43
RAM: Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB
HDD: Toshiba 1TB 7200RPM
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W (Full Modular)
Optical: Asus DVD/CD Writer
OS: Win 7 64bit
Monitor: Acer 60Hz 24" 5ms
WiFi: Rosewill 802.11a/b/g/n
There are a few other minor parts as well but these are the main components.
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:02 pm
by Love
Don't use a cooler, waste of money. With the right cpu you don't need to touch anything. My i5 3350p 3.1ghz runs everything on maxed without any overclocking, this including bf4 on ultra settings.
I hear people sometimes dl windows 7 from a certain bay of pirates site btw, not that I am suggesting you do ....
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:01 am
by BuDo
Not a bad build....
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:40 pm
by *BlackFox
Love wrote:Don't use a cooler, waste of money.
Why?
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:44 pm
by omier
Put a CPU heatsink on a GPU.
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:48 pm
by Gaigemasta
hate to advertise but it's a good deal, figured you guys might be interested
my FB post
Selling a great PC - $1200, worth way more.
CPU: i7-3770k
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 4GB
Case: NZXT Phantom black
Monitors: ASUS VH242H 23.6" + Dell S2340M Black 23"
MOBO: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 ATX
Keyboard: Logitech G510
Mouse: Razer Deathadder
PSU: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold 1000W Power Supply
SSD: 2x128GB OCZ Vertex 4 128GB
HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB FAEX
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:25 pm
by Love
^
Mindless build.
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:34 pm
by inky
Gaigemasta wrote:hate to advertise but it's a good deal, figured you guys might be interested
my FB post
Selling a great PC - $1200, worth way more.
CPU: i7-3770k
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 4GB
Case: NZXT Phantom black
Monitors: ASUS VH242H 23.6" + Dell S2340M Black 23"
MOBO: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 ATX
Keyboard: Logitech G510
Mouse: Razer Deathadder
PSU: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold 1000W Power Supply
SSD: 2x128GB OCZ Vertex 4 128GB
HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB FAEX
Damn. You can sell that for way more.
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:22 pm
by I Am Vegeta
*BlackFox wrote:Love wrote:Don't use a cooler, waste of money.
Why?
jesus **** blackfox he just explained it
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:10 pm
by *BlackFox
Nah, he didn't.. lulz
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:57 pm
by CrimsonNuker
inky wrote:Gaigemasta wrote:hate to advertise but it's a good deal, figured you guys might be interested
my FB post
Selling a great PC - $1200, worth way more.
CPU: i7-3770k
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 4GB
Case: NZXT Phantom black
Monitors: ASUS VH242H 23.6" + Dell S2340M Black 23"
MOBO: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 ATX
Keyboard: Logitech G510
Mouse: Razer Deathadder
PSU: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold 1000W Power Supply
SSD: 2x128GB OCZ Vertex 4 128GB
HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB FAEX
Damn. You can sell that for way more.
Yeah holy crap, you're wayy underselling it!, 2 monitors+32GB of ram when the RAM market is completely farked right now, throw in a Titan too? That alone is worth at least 800$, and that's not even including the $200+ market value CPU.
@Inky, I'd say go for a 750W-800W psu just in case (If they ever want to sli). If he spends another 20$, he can get this beautiful case instead
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc9011048ww@Sanktum liquid cooling your GPU is overkill unless you're heavily overclocking your GPU, and with a 770 GTX, you don't really need to overclock anything.
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:17 am
by Love
*BlackFox wrote:Nah, he didn't.. lulz
With the right cpu you don't need to touch anything. My i5 3350p 3.1ghz runs everything on maxed without any overclocking, this including bf4 on ultra settings.
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:04 pm
by *BlackFox
So, you don't have any cooler.. At all?
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:19 pm
by Spiritual
inky wrote:Case: Antec 900
CPU: i5 4670k 3.4GHz
- Not worth paying extra for K -model if you are not going to overclock. Just saying, because you can get away lot cheaper with non-Z mobo and 4670/4570.Cooler: CM 212 EVO
- Enough for mild OC'ing, nearly the best in its price category though.Mobo: MSI Z87-G43
- MSI mobo is a no no for this purpose in this price category, gigabyte Z87X-D3H will cost around the same, has better build quality and has much better power phasing.RAM: Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB
HDD: Toshiba 1TB 7200RPM
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB
- Paying extra for 4GB memory, which is not needed for 1080p gaming? Also, I wouldn't go with EVGA unless I wanted to install an aftermarket cooler because their coolers tend to make more noise than Asus DC2, MSI TF or Gigabyte WF models.PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W (Full Modular)
- It's good but a bit overkill, considering it will be hard to even reach 300W during gaming with this system. ~500W Seasonic gold+ is never bad pick either. 
Optical: Asus DVD/CD Writer
OS: Win 7 64bit
Monitor: Acer 60Hz 24" 5ms
WiFi: Rosewill 802.11a/b/g/n
Love wrote:Don't use a cooler, waste of money. With the right cpu you don't need to touch anything. My i5 3350p 3.1ghz runs everything on maxed without any overclocking, this including bf4 on ultra settings.
I hear people sometimes dl windows 7 from a certain bay of pirates site btw, not that I am suggesting you do ....
While a stock cooler can do the job well enough for your ivy, it will certainly not be enough for an overclocked haswell top tier processor. Haswells also tend to run hotter at stock speeds too. Not to mention how bad the stock cooler starts to sound when it has to work harder. Also your processor's TDP value is only 69W, while 4670k has 84W.
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:04 pm
by inky
Thanks for the input. I did consider getting the basic CPU version but with this build, it'll be a waste not to OC it. The mobo isn't the best in the category but I did get the Mobo+RAM+CPU in a bundle. As for the GPU, the 2GB version is slightly cheaper so it's a "just in case" scenario.
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:29 pm
by Spiritual
Hmm, aren't the 2GB ones around 300$...? Paying 100$ to get 2GB more is way too much. If you want better "future proof" I would try to grab a R9 280X instead since it's around the same price and has 3GB. Tho, the day when games require 2-3GB+ memory to run properly, these gpus will be outdated in processing power anyway.
These days many people go with Xeon 1230V3 + cheap B85/H87 mobo, since the price will be about same as i5 + Z87 mobo but you will essentially have i7 4770. I did this too because the OC'ing potential of haswells isn't too great, in the worst scenario you pay extra for mobo/cooling and your cpu can hardly go to 4GHz. For example in BF4 multi, the xeon will beat 4670k in fps even with mild OC. 8 cores @3,7GHz turbo is hard/impossible to beat in multithreaded stuff by OC'ing a i5.
Re: Been a while since...
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:37 pm
by Love
Spiritual wrote:inky wrote:Case: Antec 900
CPU: i5 4670k 3.4GHz
- Not worth paying extra for K -model if you are not going to overclock. Just saying, because you can get away lot cheaper with non-Z mobo and 4670/4570.Cooler: CM 212 EVO
- Enough for mild OC'ing, nearly the best in its price category though.Mobo: MSI Z87-G43
- MSI mobo is a no no for this purpose in this price category, gigabyte Z87X-D3H will cost around the same, has better build quality and has much better power phasing.RAM: Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB
HDD: Toshiba 1TB 7200RPM
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB
- Paying extra for 4GB memory, which is not needed for 1080p gaming? Also, I wouldn't go with EVGA unless I wanted to install an aftermarket cooler because their coolers tend to make more noise than Asus DC2, MSI TF or Gigabyte WF models.PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W (Full Modular)
- It's good but a bit overkill, considering it will be hard to even reach 300W during gaming with this system. ~500W Seasonic gold+ is never bad pick either. Optical: Asus DVD/CD Writer
OS: Win 7 64bit
Monitor: Acer 60Hz 24" 5ms
WiFi: Rosewill 802.11a/b/g/n
Love wrote:Don't use a cooler, waste of money. With the right cpu you don't need to touch anything. My i5 3350p 3.1ghz runs everything on maxed without any overclocking, this including bf4 on ultra settings.
I hear people sometimes dl windows 7 from a certain bay of pirates site btw, not that I am suggesting you do ....
While a stock cooler can do the job well enough for your ivy, it will certainly not be enough for an overclocked haswell top tier processor. Haswells also tend to run hotter at stock speeds too. Not to mention how bad the stock cooler starts to sound when it has to work harder. Also your processor's TDP value is only 69W, while 4670k has 84W.
I have heard my stock cooler a total amount of 0 times, again you don't need to oc if you got a decent enough cpu. Saying you run into thermal problems while oc'ing it's a self created problem that ignores the fact that at least my cpu yawns at everything I throw at it.
I think the most extreme solution we can come up here is for him to switch to Ivy as well.