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Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:33 pm
by Vaya
President Barack Obama said that the United States "should take military action against Syrian targets" in a Rose Garden address Saturday. However, he said he would seek congressional authorization when federal lawmakers return from recess.
The president appealed for congressional leaders to consider their responsibilities and values in debating U.S. military action in Syria over its alleged chemical weapons use."Some things are more important than partisan differences or the politics of the moment," he said. "Today I'm asking Congress to send a message to the world that we are united as one nation."

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/31/world ... ?hpt=hp_t1


What's going to happen, will US fire a few missiles and leave? or is it going to be something bigger, like we could see some retaliation from syrian government or whoever is backing it up... like russia for example!
thoughts?

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:14 pm
by Fiction
hahahhahahah America fire a few missiles and leave... Yeah, like we've done anywhere else... Oh no... We always come back or set up permanent residency. Need at least one American military base in each country in the world... While we sink further into dept, and pay our veterans like they're fast food employees.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:21 pm
by BuDo
US meddles too much...If there is a need to get involved it should at least be a coalition effort among many nations...That way it looks like the world is against the atrocities in Syria rather than the US appearing to be the world's police...

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:24 pm
by Hideoki
debt? chine essentially own 'merica' and the us dollar will eventually just be completely destroyed 'on purpose' to nullify this debt to china and likely create some kind of NA/UN currency as we see many european countries fall which are all backed by the un anyway...the un essentially being one of the arms from the same body leading the world..ie america. and essentially start ww3 with n korea/china/russia etc as you cannot simply avoid thw trillions america owe to china. syria is just part of their movement toward the east, it's entirely planned and they fully intend for these middle eastern countries to 'kill themselves' it wont elevate to dangerous levels for the american guys though! population control, countries outside of illuminati..i mean american/un control will all follow this pattern!

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:33 pm
by Bartic
I've just read some news about Putin "warning" Obama not to attack. It's in Serbian, so I won't post it here.

Edit: 1000th post in less than a year (363 days and 21 hours). :D

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:41 pm
by Hideoki
as i said, expect america/britain and the others who aid them, to go to war with russia/china/n korea within 10-20 years. n korea are likely already placing nucleur mines off the west coast of the usa as a counteravtive measure to anything usa may do!

the problem isnt actually 'america' or 'americans' it's the fact the real power is not the publicly visible goverment, but a jewish cult literally in the latter stages of plans going back hundreads of years to quite literally reduce the world to nothing but those guys. the un even requires countries under the un flag to willingly give up their army and weapons at the demand of the un in times of war. why do you think all the focus is countries who are sovereign and individual to themselves?

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:48 pm
by Fiction
Hideoki wrote:debt? chine essentially own 'merica' and the us dollar will eventually just be completely destroyed 'on purpose' to nullify this debt to china and likely create some kind of NA/UN currency as we see many european countries fall which are all backed by the un anyway...the un essentially being one of the arms from the same body leading the world..ie america. and essentially start ww3 with n korea/china/russia etc as you cannot simply avoid thw trillions america owe to china. syria is just part of their movement toward the east, it's entirely planned and they fully intend for these middle eastern countries to 'kill themselves' it wont elevate to dangerous levels for the american guys though! population control, countries outside of illuminati..i mean american/un control will all follow this pattern!


Perhaps you should ehm... Study more on the subject of world affairs and finances. China doesn't "essentially" own America.. China has their own financial issues to worry about.

Edit:

Hideoki wrote:as i said, expect america/britain and the others who aid them, to go to war with russia/china/n korea within 10-20 years. n korea are likely already placing nucleur mines off the west coast of the usa as a counteravtive measure to anything usa may do!

the problem isnt actually 'america' or 'americans' it's the fact the real power is not the publicly visible goverment, but a jewish cult literally in the latter stages of plans going back hundreads of years to quite literally reduce the world to nothing but those guys. the un even requires countries under the un flag to willingly give up their army and weapons at the demand of the un in times of war. why do you think all the focus is countries who are sovereign and individual to themselves?


Disregard my previous statement... What was I even thinking. :roll:

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:59 pm
by Hideoki
i didnt mention chinas issues, but usa are in enough debt with china to force to dollar to be destroyed to avoid it... lol, thats all i stated. nothing mentioned of chinas own problems etc.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:09 pm
by Fiction
Hideoki wrote:i didnt mention chinas issues, but usa are in enough debt with china to force to dollar to be destroyed to avoid it... lol, thats all i stated. nothing mentioned of chinas own problems etc.


I know what you stated. It's factually incorrect.

Here's a little graphic to help you put in terms where China stands on our debt. Believe they now own roughly over a trillion dollars of our roughly 16 trillion dollars of outstanding debt... You actually have to know something before you can sound credible. Just shouting out generalized shit that you've heard others say, or watched on youtube, doesn't mean you're correct.

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Gonna add this bit... China needs the US... If you've ever lived here, and bought anything, you've probably noticed most our shit is made in China. Yeah... going to war with us would be like killing off 300+ million customers.. I love this axis of evil people have thrown together though, like it's all as simple as a game of risk.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:49 pm
by Hideoki
north korea dont give a shit, and china certainly care abiut their relationship with them. china dont want war, i never said that. i also dont have access to sources like you to refer to for stats as im stuck on a 3ds browser lol. so im stuck with memory and crappy typing...lol.

but yeah, china supplying the world with products is one thing, do you believe its purely china who benefit in that? i would assume a large percentage of this income is actually interlinked with worldwide organizations. many americans funded the nazis and opposition during ww2 also btw and thoughout history have happily started wars purely to earn money. im saying this without deep description as i cba on this 3ds, i cant source or spend ages reading it as i mentioned before so im really just going from memory and i dont claim to be an expert....nor am i what you called me, not sure why you act so aggressive when everybody knows something the other doesnt, you may research this more than me i dont care, i know what i know and will learn from others..

you can make money from war btw as america did through the germans, china will be forced into war without doubt! you cannot prevent war simply because china produce most of the products in the usa/world! oh, and why would they kill 300 million people lol? fact is, war or submission to follow suit towards world governing as other countries have! and also, america will force this not china.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:19 pm
by Fiction
Hideoki wrote:north korea dont give a shit, and china certainly care abiut their relationship with them. china dont want war, i never said that. i also dont have access to sources like you to refer to for stats as im stuck on a 3ds browser lol. so im stuck with memory and crappy typing...lol.

but yeah, china supplying the world with products is one thing, do you believe its purely china who benefit in that? i would assume a large percentage of this income is actually interlinked with worldwide organizations. many americans funded the nazis and opposition during ww2 also btw and thoughout history have happily started wars purely to earn money. im saying this without deep description as i cba on this 3ds, i cant source or spend ages reading it as i mentioned before so im really just going from memory and i dont claim to be an expert....nor am i what you called me, not sure why you act so aggressive when everybody knows something the other doesnt, you may research this more than me i dont care, i know what i know and will learn from others..

you can make money from war btw as america did through the germans, china will be forced into war without doubt! you cannot prevent war simply because china produce most of the products in the usa/world! oh, and why would they kill 300 million people lol? fact is, war or submission to follow suit towards world governing as other countries have! and also, america will force this not china.


What did I call you?

I wasn't acting aggressive, I was correcting you. I understand you're, in a sense, handicapped(3DS), so you cannot research the issue as well. One could easily follow simple advice though:

Proverbs 13:3
Those who guard their lips preserve their lives, but those who speak rashly will come to ruin.

In other words, if you don't know what you're talking about, it's best to keep your thoughts to yourself, so not to look like an idiot(As in the Latin[ignorant]). I could go on and point out the fallacies in your argument, but I'll choose to disregard the whole bit, as you're not exactly on the same playing field. If you do care about these issues, you should definitely take more time in understanding them. (I know this comes off as rather pompous, but I'm just saying, for the sake of argument/discussion; it's always best to know-beyond generalities-what one is talking about.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:06 pm
by _Dutchy_
Its a sticky and dangerous situation. the US should stay out of this imho who knows what might happen if Iran and Israel get involved in this to


Edit

With the E-6B's and E-4B's and U2 spyplanes all being moved closer. The united states is ready to strike at any moment. and with 4 Arleigh Burke-class destroyer's at the coast. that would mean there are around 150+- tomahawk missiles ready to fire.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:08 pm
by omier
I read in an Estonian site that the US has planned a war with Syria a long time ago. And the US is just using these situations with UN and NATO to conquer. Iraq, Afganistan, Libya and Syria are all similar situations.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:34 pm
by _Dutchy_
Sanktum wrote:I read in an Estonian site that the US has planned a war with Syria a long time ago. And the US is just using these situations with UN and NATO to conquer. Iraq, Afganistan, Libya and Syria are all similar situations.


:palm: thats all i'm going to say.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:36 pm
by omier
^I figured as much.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:21 pm
by TheDrop
I dont know which is sadder, that the US is borrowing $$ from a pension fund or that they have made a majority of the people believe that its the other way around.. :palm:

OT; The only reason Obama is pres is because it was a race between a douche and a turd, and people just like the turd better. Not like it would be any different if the douche was pres

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:36 pm
by Bartic
TheDrop wrote:I dont know which is sadder, that the US is borrowing $$ from a pension fund or that they have made a majority of the people believe that its the other way around.. :palm:

OT; The only reason Obama is pres is because it was a race between a douche and a turd, and people just like the turd better. Not like it would be any different if the douche was pres


But the turd got 36 and the douche got 1410 votes.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:04 pm
by Hideoki
im from the uk, so i obviously dont vote in america. but, i heard they have vote charges set to like $35 which in some cases, and likely millions tbh, can stop people voting all together, as its food or vote that day for low incomes.

sorry to go slightly off topic with that, but if true its funny! obvious vote control imo by creating a roadblock for likely votes against them if these guys voted!

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:21 pm
by Fiction
Hideoki wrote:im from the uk, so i obviously dont vote in america. but, i heard they have vote charges set to like $35 which in some cases, and likely millions tbh, can stop people voting all together, as its food or vote that day for low incomes.

sorry to go slightly off topic with that, but if true its funny! obvious vote control imo by creating a roadblock for likely votes against them if these guys voted!


It doesn't cost you money to vote in America. Unless you count the $150 fee you pay to get into the voting booth, and then the 60 dollar charge to have your vote counted, then the 20 dollars for the "I voted" sticker.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:25 pm
by Bartic
Fiction wrote:
Hideoki wrote:im from the uk, so i obviously dont vote in america. but, i heard they have vote charges set to like $35 which in some cases, and likely millions tbh, can stop people voting all together, as its food or vote that day for low incomes.

sorry to go slightly off topic with that, but if true its funny! obvious vote control imo by creating a roadblock for likely votes against them if these guys voted!


It doesn't cost you money to vote in America. Unless you count the $150 fee you pay to get into the voting booth, and then the 60 dollar charge to have your vote counted, then the 20 dollars for the "I voted" sticker.


Really?
I don't about my country, since I didn't vote yet, but I never heard you pay for voting.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:09 pm
by *BlackFox
Bartic wrote:Really?
Well, even if you vote... you wouldn't get "free" stickers!

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:21 pm
by Vaya
Twenty-fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.




he's joking obviously, but when I saw your reply I wanted to make sure!

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:58 pm
by Bartic
Yeah, I thought so too, especially because of the sticker, but couldn't be sure and too lazy to google. I knew someone's going to reply, so why bother? :D

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:34 am
by Fiction
I just thought it would be humorous, and just believable enough to troll a couple people. Silly me :sohappy:

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:33 am
by Bartic
It seems that you have succeeded.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:04 pm
by *BlackFox
Yeah... silly you @Fiction lulz

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:10 pm
by _Dutchy_
The USS Nimitz, and 4 escort ships moved into the Red sea putting a strike group in range of syria + an other 200 Cruise missiles.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:43 pm
by _Dutchy_
The U.S senate voted for it. So i gues the united states is going to strike syria.

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:04 pm
by TheDrop
^Not surprised, just hope that every Dem that did gets voted out in 2014. Same for the Repubs but you know their base loves a good dick measurement contest.

Btw Its just a Senate committee, not the whole Senate yet

Bartic wrote:But the turd got 36 and the douche got 1410 votes.

I'm confuzzd

Re: Obama: US should take military action against Syria

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:42 pm
by Bartic
TheDrop wrote:
Bartic wrote:But the turd got 36 and the douche got 1410 votes.

I'm confuzzd


That was South Park reference.