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Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:23 pm
by vietxboy911
So i've been looking for new keyboard or mice that is more purposed for gaming. I've been doing fine with a standard microsoft keyboard and logitech mouse.( I have a mx518 but I dont really use it ) So far, I looked on newegg at the Razer products, and it seems that most of them arnt really worth some of the prices based on reviews. It seems like the G series keyboards are popular too, and have heard some positive stuff about them.
With christmas coming around, i'm already buying a new video card and monitor so i'd thought why not change the setup a little more with a new keyboard/mouse. I'm looking for around the 70$ range, but anyone with suggestions can post outside of the range aswell, but I think 100$+(USD) is a little overwelming for a keyboard/mouse. Feel free to post your own keyboard/mouse too, because im not really asking for you to look for a product for me, but rather indulge me with your knowledge on the topic

edit:
Microsoft SideWinder X4 seems really positive and popular for only 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6823109191( Backlights dont match my blue ones though

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Logitech G series.. couple I found
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6823126100http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 7&Tpk=g110
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:28 pm
by LillDev!l
Got a Logitech G15 (the first one) and a R.A.T. 7 myself.
I bought the Logitech keyboard for 85 euros ages back. I've had it for about 7 years and it still works perfectly, even the keys still feel really solid / new, it's a really decent keyboard.
The R.A.T. 7 is pretty new, i love the grip on it, but besides that i think you could do fine with a lower end mouse.
Mostly because games don't really support high DPI mice anyhow, when i play CoD for example i need an in game sensitivity of about 2-3% to adjust for the high DPI and even then my mouse is fairly sensitive.
The advantage to the R.A.T 7 and 9 (not sure if the 5 also has it) is the dual eye laser which has separate vertical and horizontal tracking, in shooter games its quite useful to have a higher horizontal sensitivity than vertical (since you aim at about the same height usually).
I'd look for a mouse that feels good in your hand with about 3000-4000 DPI (if you play shooters).
For the keyboard it fully depends on your preferences, back lit keyboards with LCD screens etc look cool and have some extra use- but a standard keyboard usually works fine too.
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:36 pm
by Gaigemasta
I use the Logitech G510
and a razer deathadder
both work great for anything nuff said
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:40 pm
by iztupido
This keyboard is so old that I don't even know its brand, should be A4tech or something. The mouse however is Steelseries Kinzu, and I've got to say im pretty satisfied with it. No problem whatsoever and it costed me 30€ or something like that. Would have bought Steelseries Xai but it was a bit bigger and about 60€ expensiver so I decided to buy this one instead

Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:57 pm
by Azilius
Depending on how serious you are, mechanical keyboards are generally the same price as the G series (or cheaper depending). They aren't for everyone but they definitely (in my opinion) feel better than regular rubber dome keyboards. There are multiple switch types for mechanical keyboards so you'd have to research that as well...
Steelseries makes great mouses (mice?) but can also be on the more expensive side. The increased price in both steelseries and razer (and other) products are there for more than just brand name. They actually do have better technology behind them that may/may not (probably may not) affect you.
That being said, my recommendations:
Keyboard
http://www.daskeyboard.comMouse
Razer DeathAdder or Steelseries Kinzu/Sensei
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:39 am
by Skyve
As the people before me have stated, get a Razer Abyssus/DeathAdder and you'll be fine. They're relatively cheap compared to the other models of the serie.
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:16 am
by ltsune
I would highly recommend the Logitech G15 keyboard as well. I have the second version, and it just rocks! I really love it. And after a week you really can't live without the small LCD screen.
As a mouse I personally use the Logitech G9x. It is a purely awesome mouse! The first time you put it in your hands, it WILL feel a bit big, though. However, after a couple of days of using it, you realize that the size actually just makes it more accurate to maneuver with. At least that's what I experienced.
Besides, it's ability to turn up and down the sensitivity directly on the mouse has been a life saver if you get into a game / application with a lower-than-ordinary mouse sensitivity.
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:24 am
by vietxboy911
Looks like the DeathAdder is very good for its price considering its only 40$. I'll probably pick it up unless someone else has a competitor to it.
Also, I never used a mechanical keyboard before, but I heard they are good for gamers. I use a PC alot for all sorts of things including gaming, but i'm not hardcore QQ gaming, but I do it on a daily basis.
For keyboards though, I dont think i'll go beyond 120+ range although the DasKeyboard looks awesome.
I saw Razer has the regular black widow for 79.99$
http://store.razerzone.com/store/razeru ... .211324200that is mechanical but does not have the blacklighting as the ultimate version does for 129$.
Atm, i'm looking at that and the G110 from logitech right now.
edit: Is the G15 discontinued? Cant find it anywhere except for like 180$ :<
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:36 am
by ltsune
I've seen the G15 in several shops. Just go to your local hardware shop and ask them how much it costs, or at what price they can get it home.
Anyway, on the Logitech website it indeed seems like the G15 is gone. However, they have a G510 and I have a hard time finding any differences between those two keyboards to be frank.
EDIT: It's $119 on the Logitech website:
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboards
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:05 am
by John_Doe
Don't mean to high jack the thread nor do I feel its appropriate to start another thread so I just wanna ask, does it matter who I buy the mother broad from like is an asus Motherbroad better than a Intel or vise verus. I'm going though Newegg and theres like 6 brands and its so overwhelming.

Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:58 pm
by M3K0S
i have this one
it does its job so im not complaining... although i could use a new mouse...
only razor product i have is the mousepad (i have a glass desk so the mouse wont work unless i have a mousepad) and it was 20 dollars for a piece of cloth...
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:53 pm
by vietxboy911
John_Doe wrote:Don't mean to high jack the thread nor do I feel its appropriate to start another thread so I just wanna ask, does it matter who I buy the mother broad from like is an asus Motherbroad better than a Intel or vise verus. I'm going though Newegg and theres like 6 brands and its so overwhelming.

Should wait for a person with computer knowledge than I have, but mainly its AMD and Intel.. Asus and the other companies just make stuff around their technology I guess. I have a AMD Motherboard and a Intel Processor, so yeah. My 2 cents :< Have someone else explain it to you lol
The things I hesitate on the G510 is that theres many macro keys that I wont use and it isnt mechanical.. which I kind of want since I never had one before lol. Comparing it to the blackwidow, Theres backlightning with custom colors which is cool, but I always play with lights on if its dark outside. The G510 is about a 10$ difference on newegg, so idk.
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:07 am
by Azilius
John_Doe wrote:Don't mean to high jack the thread nor do I feel its appropriate to start another thread so I just wanna ask, does it matter who I buy the mother broad from like is an asus Motherbroad better than a Intel or vise verus. I'm going though Newegg and theres like 6 brands and its so overwhelming.

Brand name is irrelevant when buying. The socket type is what really matters. Intel Q6600 will only work on an 'LGA 775' socket. Certain AMD CPU's only fit on an AM3 socket..etc
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:22 am
by dom
vietxboy911 wrote:The things I hesitate on the G510 is that theres many macro keys that I wont use and it isnt mechanical.. which I kind of want since I never had one before lol. Comparing it to the blackwidow, Theres backlightning with custom colors which is cool, but I always play with lights on if its dark outside. The G510 is about a 10$ difference on newegg, so idk.
I just bought a black widow and I can honestly say it's one of the best, if not the best, keyboards I have used.
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:36 am
by vietxboy911
Yeah, im pretty convinced on the black widow now.
I'm about to order tommorow, so im just wondering if you guys think theres any competition for the deathadder at around that price?(40USD)
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:31 am
by [SD]Twysta
Personally not a big fan of razer hardware as I've had some bad experiences with some of their products (as have some of my friends).
In terms of mice I pretty much always suggest the mx518 or g500 nowadays, but your budget doesn't allow for that plus a decent keyboard. I use a mechanical keyboard now and I'm super super happy that I finally put down the money for one, I'm absolutely loving it and it's been one of the best purchases I've ever made

Although I have heard good things about the black widow to be fair.
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:51 am
by John_Doe
Azilius wrote:John_Doe wrote:Don't mean to high jack the thread nor do I feel its appropriate to start another thread so I just wanna ask, does it matter who I buy the mother broad from like is an asus Motherbroad better than a Intel or vise verus. I'm going though Newegg and theres like 6 brands and its so overwhelming.

Brand name is irrelevant when buying. The socket type is what really matters. Intel Q6600 will only work on an 'LGA 775' socket. Certain AMD CPU's only fit on an AM3 socket..etc
I understand the socket type but both Asus/Intel offer motherboards with the socket type that I need so does it matter who I buy it from?
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:16 am
by vietxboy911
[SD]Twysta wrote:Personally not a big fan of razer hardware as I've had some bad experiences with some of their products (as have some of my friends).
In terms of mice I pretty much always suggest the mx518 or g500 nowadays, but your budget doesn't allow for that plus a decent keyboard. I use a mechanical keyboard now and I'm super super happy that I finally put down the money for one, I'm absolutely loving it and it's been one of the best purchases I've ever made

Although I have heard good things about the black widow to be fair.
Budget is around 50$ for the mouse, already dishing out 80 for the keyboard. Already have a MX518 on a different PC, but the main issue with that was the plastic shell covering which got really dirty fast if I used it alot on a day.
the higher end mouses look appealing, but why cost as much as a keyboard and more :/
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:02 am
by Azilius
John_Doe wrote:Azilius wrote:John_Doe wrote:Don't mean to high jack the thread nor do I feel its appropriate to start another thread so I just wanna ask, does it matter who I buy the mother broad from like is an asus Motherbroad better than a Intel or vise verus. I'm going though Newegg and theres like 6 brands and its so overwhelming.

Brand name is irrelevant when buying. The socket type is what really matters. Intel Q6600 will only work on an 'LGA 775' socket. Certain AMD CPU's only fit on an AM3 socket..etc
I understand the socket type but both Asus/Intel offer motherboards with the socket type that I need so does it matter who I buy it from?
Again, brand name is irrelevant when buying.
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:43 pm
by dom
My first pc build was low budget. I tried to cut costs by buying a cheap motherboard. 1) it burned out in about a year and a half 2) manual was in Korean and Chinese, farked me hard because it was my first build and I needed to know where all the components were and what purpose they served.
Motherboards are important. Brand preference isn't huge, but is important to get a good one.
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:01 pm
by Azilius
dom wrote:My first pc build was low budget. I tried to cut costs by buying a cheap motherboard. 1) it burned out in about a year and a half 2) manual was in Korean and Chinese, farked me hard because it was my first build and I needed to know where all the components were and what purpose they served.
Motherboards are important. Brand preference isn't huge, but is important to get a good one.
I have a $50 motherboard that has been running fine for over 6 years. I have a $250 motherboard that died within 1 year, and has had significant problems throughout the other 3 years (after being replaced).
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:43 pm
by Skyve
Debate over personal experiences.

Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:52 am
by Azilius
.Ex wrote:Debate over personal experiences.

Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:41 pm
by SNAPPA77
Love the macros on my G15. I can do all my stabs with imbue using just one key. So much better than using the F key row.
Thinking about upgrading to the G510 but haven't decided yet.
Re: Keyboard/Mice
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:50 pm
by I Am Vegeta
I use my laptop's keyboard, a razer lachesis and a belkin n52te